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My friends just got me started into fantasy recently and one of them sold me his warriors of chaos for $50. So this list is far from complete by the fact I'm limited to these models at this time.
50 chaos warriors
60 chaos marauders
15 chaos knights
1 sorceror lord
With the models I have atm I was curious what you guys think about this list, also what models would you recommend attempting to aquire first when I get paid in a week and have some model buying money.

335 15x warriors 5x3 w/ mark of nurgle, champ, musici, SBB - banner of rage
325 15x warriors 5x3 w/ mark of khorne, champ, musici, SBB
330 15x warriors 5x3 w/ mark of tzeentch, champ, musici, SBB - blasted standard
405 Sorceror Lord w/ mark of tzeentch, Lvl 4, Power Familiar, Talisman of Protection, Bloodcurdling roar, Armour of morrslieb, Disc of Tzeentch
160 28x Marauders 7x4 w/ mark of khorne, champ, musici, SBB
160 28x Marauders 7x4 w/ mark of khorne, champ, musici, sbb
305 5x chaos knights w/ mark of khorne, champ, musici, sbb
480 10x chaos knights 5x2 w/ mark of khorne, champ, musici, sbb

was considering attaching the sorc to the squad of 5 knights
   
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Victoria B.C.

Im new too seems like you got a great deal

I have tried 50 marauders with flails 10 wide mok with fc. 300 points of lolz everyone shoots at them and gets eaten by warriors or everyone shoots at warriors and gets beat down by the marauders its good times over all.

I run my warriors in blocks of 18 (6x3) fc and tz works well.
Mok warriors with halberds and shields just makes a bloody mess where ever they go over all good times.

For knights I didnt put a champ in because he is quite expensive and well they are knights pretty amazing as is I only run 5 tho but have seen 15+ being used at my local store worked pretty well for the guy.

Things I have found that you need.

A bsb is almost mandatory he can get a lil pricey (200 ish points on foot) but he is well hes a hero and he is very effective as hero and for what a bsb does.

You might want a second sorcerer because thats always good to have my lvl 2 has puppet on him

(Chaos Sorcerer Lord of Tzeentch, 380 pts LVL 4 Gen
Biting Blade
Enchanted Shield
Talisman of Preservation
Power Familiar

Chaos Sorcerer of Nurgle, 215 pts MON,LVL2
Shrieking Blade
Charmed Shield
Infernal Puppet
Third eye of Tzeentch
)

That is for a 3k army but you get the idea good ward saves good armor saves and they hit hard and have mean mean magic

Ps what are you arming your warriors with?
Marauders with flails are amazing.

Best of luck

Overview of the WoC army book.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/388667.page#3171854
Ralin Givens is the chaos to my warriors. Ra Ra Ra go team awesome I mean chaos
Tzack Vahr Zhen's unholy followers.
all hail Howie Mandel deal or no deal it dosnt matter tzeentch wins
Khorne flakes part of a good breakfast when you plan to kill maim and burn all!!!

Do you have enough Priests do you?
 
   
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Oh my appologies, I forgot to add the weapons I took with them that would help a bit...
For the marauders I am running GW on all of them as for the warriors I am running shields. The only reason I attached the sorc to the knights is mostly so he can move pretty far without having to worry about foot sloggers slowing him down or archers decimating him as a single unit. I do like the idea of another sorc with the nurgle lore. That lore seems interesting to me for a few of it's spells. As far as the BSB your talking about, your talking exalted hero with what standard would you recomend?
   
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Victoria B.C.

I just played a game and my khorne warriors with halberds and shields wih fc and a standard of disciplin I think they just ate units like candy.

Knights did nothing they kept rolling snake eyes for charge :(

marauders with flails are amazing take em with flails because they have a pretty good initiative and if you run hem as a horde wih mok they will be so nasty my marauders were beastly too

tz with shields is nice for sure definitely using those again total awesomeness.

Overview of the WoC army book.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/388667.page#3171854
Ralin Givens is the chaos to my warriors. Ra Ra Ra go team awesome I mean chaos
Tzack Vahr Zhen's unholy followers.
all hail Howie Mandel deal or no deal it dosnt matter tzeentch wins
Khorne flakes part of a good breakfast when you plan to kill maim and burn all!!!

Do you have enough Priests do you?
 
   
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Albany, NY

Wow $50? Nice haul

The list looks fine, but I will second the call for a BSB. Here's the standard infantry one:

Exalted - MoT, BSB, talisman of endurance = 175

And you can add whatever else on there as points allow. Speaking of points, you can start paying for him by dropping all of your champions except for the one where the BSB is going to be (probably the tizz warriors) = 80 points. We can get some more points by trimming down your level 4. Here's my suggestion:

S.Lord - MoT, level 4, power familiar, talisman of preservation, disc = 380

(This also gives him a better overall save, as a 3+ hard ward is much preferable to the armor of doesn't work against magic ) So we're at 105 points. From here we need to either cut marauders and combine the rest into one larger unit of 40+ (not a bad idea and makes for 1 much more frightening lumberjack unit instead of 2 so-so ones), or cut a couple knights from the larger unit. At which point I might suggest equalizing the knights to both be 6 or 7-wide, not worrying about the rank breaking possibility of 10 and instead maxing attaks.

So that's what I got. Make that BSB happen, make that 3+ ward for real, drop those champs, cut some gak.

EDIT
If you're interested, my tweaked list is below ...
Spoiler:
L: Sorcerer Lord - MoT, level 4, roar, infernal puppet, talisman of preservation, disc = 410

H: Exalted - MoT, BSB, talisman of endurance = 175

C: 15 Warriors - MoT, blasted standard, full command, shields = 330
C: 15 Warriors - MoN, banner of rage, standard, musician = 323
C: 15 Warriors - MoK, standard, musician, shields = 288
C: 50 Marauders - MoK, musician, great weapons = 284

S: 7 Knights - MoK, standard, musician = 340
S: 7 Knights - MoK, standard, musician = 340
-------
2480

10 points free to buy the BSB a little something, perhaps as simple as biting blade + shield? I also went with puppet on the level 4, as I think it's generally more useful than an extra power die (and also messes with enemy casters in a potentially brutal way).

- Salvage

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2011/05/16 13:45:43


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Finland... the country next to Sweden? No! That's Norway! Finland is to the east! No! That's Russia!

Definetly have MOT, shields and the Blasted Standard for your warriors (4+ Ward save against shooting and a 5+ Ward against CC seems pretty good with a 3+ Armour save and toughness of 4)

Sweet Jesus, Nurgle and Slaanesh in the same box!?
No, just Nurgle and Slaanesh, Jesus will be sold seperately in a blister.




 
   
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Victoria B.C.

The bsb is the same basic set up that im using works well

Definitely get infernal puppet that made my day with so many mis casts on my opponents wizards it just messed him up so much dont leave home without it.

Overview of the WoC army book.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/388667.page#3171854
Ralin Givens is the chaos to my warriors. Ra Ra Ra go team awesome I mean chaos
Tzack Vahr Zhen's unholy followers.
all hail Howie Mandel deal or no deal it dosnt matter tzeentch wins
Khorne flakes part of a good breakfast when you plan to kill maim and burn all!!!

Do you have enough Priests do you?
 
   
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Finland... the country next to Sweden? No! That's Norway! Finland is to the east! No! That's Russia!

LoN with a level 4 + a spell familiar works... You can re-roll the dice that choose the spell, if you get the same result more than once... Right?

Sweet Jesus, Nurgle and Slaanesh in the same box!?
No, just Nurgle and Slaanesh, Jesus will be sold seperately in a blister.




 
   
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Albany, NY

sluggaslugga wrote:You can re-roll the dice that choose the spell, if you get the same result more than once... Right?
Better, you get to pick a spell for the die that rolled the double

As to comparing Nurgle vs Tizz lores, all things being equal I sort of like Nurgle better, as it has an awesome base spell, an augment, a hex or two and a bunch of damage ones. Tizz is certainly solid on its own - only Call is a loser, I've made transmog work fragging war machines stranded away from the general + BSB - but the real benefit is that a) it includes a ward save (MoN really is of very little benefit any longer, mostly helping the level 4 hit WS5 things better - which he doesn't want to be fighting anyway! - and get hit less by WS3 things), b) makes an existing ward save better, c) adds +1 to cast, and d) allows access to a disk, freeing the sorcerer from worrying about combat, range, slow infantry bunkers, etc, etc.

- Salvage

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Thank you for all your help so far everyone. I like your tweaked list a lot salvage, that should be easily doable with the models I have started with. As a second question though does anyone have some suggestions on what models I should attempt to pick up first when I start buying again? I'm thinking at least a hell cannon or 2. Also any tips with this list going up against a TK army? My friend has been building them and it does include a sphinx as well as a giant skeleton.
   
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Finland... the country next to Sweden? No! That's Norway! Finland is to the east! No! That's Russia!

If your friend is playing TK then definetly like you said a Helcannon or 2, because if a 3 is rolled on the HC misfire table, all wizards take a miscast

Also, include Tzeentch magic to weaken the enemy wizards.
Plague knights also seem to work (be sureto equip them the fwstering shroud banner).

Sweet Jesus, Nurgle and Slaanesh in the same box!?
No, just Nurgle and Slaanesh, Jesus will be sold seperately in a blister.




 
   
Made in ca
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Victoria B.C.

Hellcannons are wonderful they do a lot of damade and keep your rear a little more safe than normal war machines.

Maybe a giant because those guys are too funny.

Lord on jugger always means good times and it's a sweet model.

Overview of the WoC army book.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/388667.page#3171854
Ralin Givens is the chaos to my warriors. Ra Ra Ra go team awesome I mean chaos
Tzack Vahr Zhen's unholy followers.
all hail Howie Mandel deal or no deal it dosnt matter tzeentch wins
Khorne flakes part of a good breakfast when you plan to kill maim and burn all!!!

Do you have enough Priests do you?
 
   
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Finland... the country next to Sweden? No! That's Norway! Finland is to the east! No! That's Russia!

A giant is good... Now check your WoC armybook to see what Mark of Slaanesh gives it. Don't wan't to spoil it
Actually... I'll save you the trouble

Spoiler:
Always strikes first

Sweet Jesus, Nurgle and Slaanesh in the same box!?
No, just Nurgle and Slaanesh, Jesus will be sold seperately in a blister.




 
   
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That giant thing is hilarious and am highly considering it now in fact. Ran the modified salvage list against empire for my first game tonight. Tabled them whilst losing 10 warriors 5 knights and 4 marauders. Doesn't help that apparently the dark gods were with me since first turn both cannons and both mortars mis-fired 2 of which exploded and the other 2 couldn't shoot for next turn. Also first turn his wizard miscast due to pandemonium and proceeded to roll a 5 which I modified down to 4 for the large template explosion thanks to the infernal puppet. Only things I'm going to change is either swapping those warriors with MoK to MoT or MoN. That or instead of shields giving them halberds / 2 weapons since we figured out in the rule book you can't parry while frenzied. I also split the marauders into 2 squads of 24 6x4 just to help cover the flanks and tarpit easier.
   
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Finland... the country next to Sweden? No! That's Norway! Finland is to the east! No! That's Russia!

Seems like a pretty good plan.
Is there a chance of putting 2 halberds per guy?

Sweet Jesus, Nurgle and Slaanesh in the same box!?
No, just Nurgle and Slaanesh, Jesus will be sold seperately in a blister.




 
   
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I think halberds are 2h for wielding if i'm not mistaken
   
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Finland... the country next to Sweden? No! That's Norway! Finland is to the east! No! That's Russia!

:(

Maybe you also could include Khorne knights with Lances...

Sweet Jesus, Nurgle and Slaanesh in the same box!?
No, just Nurgle and Slaanesh, Jesus will be sold seperately in a blister.




 
   
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Not sure on the lances either. Knights come stock with the +1 str all the time weapons and if I get lances I only get 6 str on the charge then 4 str any continued combat instead of 5 all around.
   
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Victoria B.C.

Why would you replace the knights stock weapons with lances the weapons thats a waste of points :(

Mot with shields is fun

Mok halberds and shields for the win

The giant is now being considered by me too sounds like he would be some fun.

Overview of the WoC army book.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/388667.page#3171854
Ralin Givens is the chaos to my warriors. Ra Ra Ra go team awesome I mean chaos
Tzack Vahr Zhen's unholy followers.
all hail Howie Mandel deal or no deal it dosnt matter tzeentch wins
Khorne flakes part of a good breakfast when you plan to kill maim and burn all!!!

Do you have enough Priests do you?
 
   
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Finland... the country next to Sweden? No! That's Norway! Finland is to the east! No! That's Russia!

MoK with shields make no sense...

Sweet Jesus, Nurgle and Slaanesh in the same box!?
No, just Nurgle and Slaanesh, Jesus will be sold seperately in a blister.




 
   
Made in ca
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Victoria B.C.

Well the shields really help for anti shooty and in cc they have the halberds.

Overview of the WoC army book.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/388667.page#3171854
Ralin Givens is the chaos to my warriors. Ra Ra Ra go team awesome I mean chaos
Tzack Vahr Zhen's unholy followers.
all hail Howie Mandel deal or no deal it dosnt matter tzeentch wins
Khorne flakes part of a good breakfast when you plan to kill maim and burn all!!!

Do you have enough Priests do you?
 
   
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The benefit is that nice 3+ AS with shields even if it gets rid of your parry save in cc. Also shield are a good fallback item if you lose one round of cc since you lose frenzy at that point. on the other hand halberds would give me more attacks from support.
   
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Victoria B.C.

Halberds dont give more attacks do they I thought they jsut gave you plus 1 str? or am I reading something wrong.

You shoulndt throw them at something where they would loose and if you are worried banner of rage keeps them frenzied all the time.

Overview of the WoC army book.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/388667.page#3171854
Ralin Givens is the chaos to my warriors. Ra Ra Ra go team awesome I mean chaos
Tzack Vahr Zhen's unholy followers.
all hail Howie Mandel deal or no deal it dosnt matter tzeentch wins
Khorne flakes part of a good breakfast when you plan to kill maim and burn all!!!

Do you have enough Priests do you?
 
   
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Finland... the country next to Sweden? No! That's Norway! Finland is to the east! No! That's Russia!

You don't need MoK if you have the banner of rage...The mark of Nurgle or Tzeentch would work better.

Sweet Jesus, Nurgle and Slaanesh in the same box!?
No, just Nurgle and Slaanesh, Jesus will be sold seperately in a blister.




 
   
Made in ca
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Victoria B.C.

Sorry it was a little late and I wasn't thinking properly
mon halberds shields banner of rage

Overview of the WoC army book.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/388667.page#3171854
Ralin Givens is the chaos to my warriors. Ra Ra Ra go team awesome I mean chaos
Tzack Vahr Zhen's unholy followers.
all hail Howie Mandel deal or no deal it dosnt matter tzeentch wins
Khorne flakes part of a good breakfast when you plan to kill maim and burn all!!!

Do you have enough Priests do you?
 
   
 
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