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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/16 23:14:52
Subject: Cover saves and explosions
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Bloodthirsty Chaos Knight
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Do you get cover saves from vehicle explosions?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/16 23:22:34
Subject: Cover saves and explosions
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Proud Phantom Titan
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if you are being transported, No (unless you have a wargear cover save like kustom force field)
if you are next to the tank and have a save, yes
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/17 00:36:54
Subject: Cover saves and explosions
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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You measure from the center of a blast for cover saves. If there is intervening terrain, you get the save. If not, your models face the brunt or go to ground.
-cgmckenzie
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/17 04:29:58
Subject: Re:Cover saves and explosions
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Mutilatin' Mad Dok
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Id say depending on how far they are in cover or what direction the blast came from so if you got guys in a 3 sided bunker and the tank explodes on the one side that is not protected then i would say they don't get a cover save (or anything similar to that)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/17 11:13:40
Subject: Cover saves and explosions
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk
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cgmckenzie wrote:You measure from the center of a blast for cover saves. If there is intervening terrain, you get the save. If not, your models face the brunt or go to ground.
-cgmckenzie
Area terrain works, too.
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7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/17 12:25:23
Subject: Re:Cover saves and explosions
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Lord of the Fleet
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If you're in the vehicle and it explodes, I would say no cover save under any circumstance, even that provided by KFFs and the like. I realize that p.67 disagrees with me with the line 'treat the hits just like shooting attacks', but I can't justify a KFF obscuring the myriad of shrapnel shooting around inside an exploding vehicle to somehow miraculously provide cover to the models inside. But that's just me. RAW it would provide cover I suppose as there's nothing stating it wouldn't.
Area terrain and what not will grant the unit cover if its near an exploding vehicle.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/17 12:35:40
Subject: Cover saves and explosions
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk
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Most technology made by orks just works because they belive it does. Who knows why it actually deflects shots? By RAW you could take cover saves against the explosion, though I personally never do because it doesn't seem right to me. Wouldn't stop an opponent from doing it though.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2011/05/17 12:37:06
7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/17 17:33:58
Subject: Cover saves and explosions
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Smokin' Skorcha Driver
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Im with Jimdah on this.
I don't take the saves myself, but I could see it as the forcefield(carried on the back of the big mek) might be an inertial dampner, or something of that ilk(just ave me an idea to make a big mek with Gorks Snot Field, protects da boyz from just about everyting!) that actually could stop some damage. However, I believe that some opponents would view that as "gaming for advantage" in the same way as many people consider pivoting for extra movement to be unfreindly gaming behavior. I like a friendly game so I try to avoid things that are on the line ruleswise. There are pelnty of boyz, so da onez that biff it were da weedy onez anyway!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/17 18:35:39
Subject: Cover saves and explosions
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Lord of the Fleet
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cgmckenzie wrote:You measure from the center of a blast for cover saves.
That would be for blast weapons. We have no such guidance for vehicle explosions.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/17 20:35:40
Subject: Cover saves and explosions
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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Scott-S6 wrote:cgmckenzie wrote:You measure from the center of a blast for cover saves.
That would be for blast weapons. We have no such guidance for vehicle explosions.
Sure you do. The center of the vehicle is center of blast, measure out the prescribed distance and calculate hits/wounds. If there was no center, how would you know where to measure the edge of the blast is?
-cgmckenzie
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/18 00:39:34
Subject: Cover saves and explosions
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk
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You measure the blast from the vehicle, which you do by measuring from its hull(BRB pg. 56). The "shots" are also coming from the hull(BRB pg. 61).
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7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. |
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