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If I have a Pysker inside a transport can that Pysker be affected by outside abilities such a Runes of Warding or the Aegis? My initial thoughts are no the pysker is not affected because if you look at the Tyranid codex FAQ there are two entries that stand out.

Q: Can Pyschic Scream affect units embarked within a transport vehicle?
A: No.
Q: Does Shadow in the Warp affect psykers who are taking a Pyschic test whilst embarked within a transport vehicle?
A:No.

There are other instances of units inside of transports not being affected such as the Doom of Mal’anti’s ability being the primary example.

So should pyskers inside of transports be affected by outside wargear or abilities?

The Aegis I would definitely say it should affect since that rule comes into effect depending on your target, not where your psyker is currently located.

Runes of Warding I would also say would come into effect since it has no range, it simply forces all enemy psykers to make a more difficult psychic test.

Going through the FAQs for some precedence is good, but the Eldar codex already has an FAQ and nothing came up about Runes of Warding working on a psyker in a transport. The Aegis affecting your psyker in the transport may be addressed when the Grey Knights codex gets an FAQ, but that just hasn't happened yet.

The Eldar FAQ_2009 predates the changes made in the Tyranid_2010 FAQ. Shadows of the Warp and Runes of Warding are both similar abilities in that the make Pyschic Tests more difficult, with the exception that SotW has a limited range where RoWard does not. Meaning if SotW can't affect a pysker in a transport then RoWard should not either.

The aegis is a bit of a grey area as it affects the pysker after it has selected a target but the ability itself is still affecting a pysker in a transport.

You can't use another codex's rules or FAQ for precedence. There are several times where x unit +1 to reserve rolls are cumulative, and in others it isn't.

Case in point. Eldar Autarch's +1 are cumulative, and Hive Tyrant's Hive Commander ability is not.

Maybe Eldar are just better Psyker stuff than Tyranids.

Also Runes of Warding is wargear, and Shadow of the Warp I think might be a type of permanent psychic power or special rule. Sometimes that makes a difference on how they are interpreted. Obviously psychic powers can't affect units in transports unless they are specifically in the same transport. So take a look at what type of rule it is and see if that makes a difference.

Plus its an official GW policy that no ruling can ever favor tyranids players. Just call and ask them.

Seriously though, aside from the extreme nerfing that every tyranid ruling gets, there is no clear way to say definitivly which way it will go. It could be one of those contrary rules that is different for each book, or they could establish a trend when the GK FAQ comes out and show that they are going to rule somewhat consistantly accross the books.

Discuss with opponenets and TOs ahead of time to avoid pitfalls.

In my opinion ... they should affect psykers in transports as they are only "off the board" in the sense that their models are on the side of the table because they are in the transport. The models are still able to make psychic tests and effect models that are "in play" (as oppoesed to in reserve, etc) and I think if you make the test you should be effected by the power.

well there is a significant rules difference here also, shadow has a range that you have to measure so you cant measure to an embarked unit.

runes of warding affects all enemy units.


and yes the faq for one army does not matter to another.

lixulana wrote:well there is a significant rules difference here also, shadow has a range that you have to measure so you cant measure to an embarked unit.

Incorrect. See page 67, right hand column under embarked units.

RoW affects psykers in transports, as SitW had to be FAQ'd to NOT work

RoW affects all psykers. There is no issue with targeting.

SitW has a range. Whilst GW seems to be comfortable with us measuring range from a unit within a transport, anything which requires us to measure to a unit in a transport seems to be a problem. (the rules support both but the FAQs seem to veto the latter)

Aegis is triggered by the unit which has it being targeted - it doesn't care where the psyker is so that also works without a problem