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I'm asking for the opinion of a large (internet sized) crowd. How many people actually play Kill-team?
I’ve just finished a 7-man Space marine kill-team for my Shadow Legion Chapter and now I’m wondering...
Besides my friends, brothers and I who else likes kill-teams?

My kill team is as follows

1 - elite - Legion of the Damned - heavy flamer
1 - fast attack - assault marine - power weapon and flamer
5 - troop - tacticals all the way - boltguns, 1 power fist, 1 power weapon and 1 chainsword

I'm not sere that this a brilliant kill team but so far it works very well against elder kill-teams.
the only do side to this kill-team that I can see is that Legion of the Damned have a rule called "slow but purposeful" that makes them always on difficult terrain.
I never would have guest that Assault marines can carry flamers in a kill-team that has to move quickly that has a slow unit like the damned I never knew how effective this would be a unit that can move 12" inches with a assault class weapon that has automatic hits.

I have pictures of my kill-team on my profile so take look I have not finished painting one of the tacticals. So there are only six of them.

I would like to know what other players think other kill-teams and if they have a kill-team what’s in it and how do you use it?...

I love kill-team...
My favorite is my Wolf Guard one:
1x Wolf Guard with combi-flamer
1xWolf Guard with combi plasma
1xWolf Guard with combi melta
1xWolf Guard with Terminator armour and heavy flamer.
1xWolf Guard with Thunder Hammer and Storm Shield.
1xWolf Guard with Mark Of the Wulfen
198 points.

Thanks for the quick reply.
What Kill-team objective do you enjoy to play the most?
Mine is Assassination and Sabotage!

Assassination.
I prefer it since it feels more thematic...
Then again most of them are pretty good.

Don't kill teams have to be legal units that you then split up? They can't just be a few models from each entry. Anyway, mine is a rip off of the last chancers.

Veterans Squad:

Ox - Harker
Brains - vox and lasgun
Demo Man - Demolitions doctrine for unit, he gets the charge.
Scope - Sniper rifle
Warrior Woman - Lasgun (Furious Charge)
Animal - Meltagun (Feel No Pain)
Rocket Girl/Fingers - Missile team (Relentless)
Hero - Lasgun
Grease monkey - Shotgun (sorry grease, I guess the bolt pistol really a shotgun in disguise)

I guess that Shiv is off somewhere being naughty and the Colonel himself is on leave. Not a great list but it gives my last chancer miniatures a good airing.

1-Elite
1-Fast Attack
2-Troops

So you could take 2 Scouts, 2 Tac marines an Assault Marine and a Sternguard Veteran but you wouldn't be able to take a Biker as well.

purplefood wrote:1-Elite
1-Fast Attack
2-Troops

So you could take 2 Scouts, 2 Tac marines an Assault Marine and a Sternguard Veteran but you wouldn't be able to take a Biker as well.

You still need to abide by the unit compositions in the codex. Scouts need to be five strong, tactical marines need to be five strong etc.

Trickstick wrote:

purplefood wrote:1-Elite
1-Fast Attack
2-Troops

So you could take 2 Scouts, 2 Tac marines an Assault Marine and a Sternguard Veteran but you wouldn't be able to take a Biker as well.

You still need to abide by the unit compositions in the codex. Scouts need to be five strong, tactical marines need to be five strong etc.

You sure?
A fair few Kill-team lists round here don't...
Though it is more fun that way.
Ahh well it doesn't matter too much, Wolf Guard are pretty damn versatile.

Yup. The scenario gives you the altered FOC list but does not list any other changes. Plus you would have to work out the costs of the models if you tried to take them individually, they don't come with individual points. Well, you get the points for each additional model so it is easy enough I suppose.

Kill team is supposed to be for fun anyway so there is nothing wrong with changing it. However, that is how it is in the actual scenario.

Fair enough.
I think every scenario deserves a small amount of creative editing for it to contain an increased amount of fun.

I highly recommend that people try the 4ed rule book's kill team rules. It actually occurs to me that these are the rules that we are talking about, not the new Battle Missions rules. Am I correct?

No...
I was talking baout the Battle Missions ones...
The 4th ed ones are good but pretty complex.
GW did a good way of mixing the 2 with their scenario on the GW website but they failed to give the ruleset they used.

I only have the full 4ed (I have the mini AOBR 5ed rulebook) so I only know the rules for that old killteam.

@Trickstick, in the old ones you are allowed to mi up units, but then your opponent gets extra points to spend on upgrades. You COULD have a killteam of a normal squad though, but it's not taking advantage of all the versatility you're offered...

I love killteam. Usually run 13 lootas with my orks.

Trickstick wrote:Don't kill teams have to be legal units that you then split up? They can't just be a few models from each entry. Anyway, mine is a rip off of the last chancers.

Veterans Squad:

Ox - Harker
Brains - vox and lasgun
Demo Man - Demolitions doctrine for unit, he gets the charge.
Scope - Sniper rifle
Warrior Woman - Lasgun (Furious Charge)
Animal - Meltagun (Feel No Pain)
Rocket Girl/Fingers - Missile team (Relentless)
Hero - Lasgun
Grease monkey - Shotgun (sorry grease, I guess the bolt pistol really a shotgun in disguise)

I guess that Shiv is off somewhere being naughty and the Colonel himself is on leave. Not a great list but it gives my last chancer miniatures a good airing.

I run almost the same, although Shiv replaces Brains and Schaeffer replaces Ox, Grease has no shotgun, and Fingers and Rocket Girl (as a counts-as Bastonne).

Dakkadan wrote:I love killteam. Usually run 13 lootas with my orks.

Sorry dan, the old rules say 12 models max. Again, if your opponents don't mind, it's not a problem.
This is why the disclaimer says kill-team is not designed for competitive play.

Nightfall, do not get s....

I play the battle missions version. I have even run a small tournament based on the rules.

It takes a lot of house ruling to play because the rules are so underdeveloped. But generally I really like it, as does most of my group.

The problem I can see is if one person in your group doesn't like it, it's going to be a bug. But with a few test-run games I think it can definitely be a good idea

I play pretty simple Kill Teams List. I play Vanilla Marines, but have quite a few lists that are fun to play and work pretty well. All add up to exactly 200 points

List 1:
10 man Tactical Squad
1 Meltagun
1 Multi-Melta
1 Power Fist

List 2:
10 man Tactical Squad
1 Plasmagun
1 Plasma Cannon
1 Power Weapon

List 3:
4 man Bike Squad
1 Attack Bike with Multi-melta
1 Flamer
1 Plasmagun
1 Power Weapon

List 4:
5 man Sternguard Squad
1 Razorback
2 Combi-Meltas
2 Combi-Flamers
1 Power Weapon

All work pretty well for me, and when you add the Special Rules to individual models, it makes a few of them much more efficient.

Tau are actually a bitch in it. Trying to achieve your objective, but being forced in choke points he covers with about 6 pulse rifles get quites annoying.

I love kill-teams! I use a squad of 5 marines and a Dread for 200 points, and two squads of 5 marines, Scouts, and a Ven-Dread for 500.

I have recently played a game of Kill-team using the list at the very top of all this against a eldar kill-team...
Eldar do not like burning...

Love kill team, however ever tried deep striking bloodletters on a huge terrain covered table? Its uh... Random.

Also my CSM's LOVE kill team! Cheaper termies really help with the price

I would LOVE kill team to be developed into a real game. I think there is real potential for kill team to be a better competitive game as well, as you can resonably play best 2 of 3 games in a tourney setting, giving better match results as if you get terrible dice you still have another game to play.

That said, there is currently no support for Kill Team in my area. And, as has been said, Kill Team requires quite a few house rules to balance out--SM taking a ven dread should not be allowed IMHO.

My 2 house rules are that each kill team must include 3 unique models in the list at a minimum. No 1 ven dread list, no assault termie lists, as neither list can produce 3 unique models. This also lets you use the optional 3 USR addition, as you have 3 models to give USR's to.

The second house rule is that every character works like an independant character. Thus they join up within 2 inches of each other, can cohabitate in transports, but still fight as individuals.

3 Unique models?
What if you just want 5 Sternguard with combi-meltas?

The last time I played I had a bunch of boyz, a PK nob and filled the rest with tankbustas. It worked fantastically.



Before that though, I had 5 nobs 4 bigchoppas and 1 pk, and my Grot Snipa I made up. They kicked the hell out of the Chaos marines they went up against

purplefood, 5 stern with combimeltas is only 150, so with your remaining 50 points you can make some unique models. Like give the sarge a power wep and add a 6th stern with a missile launcher or something.

Okay what if you wanted...
8 Sternguard with bolters?
And, why no Assault Terminators?

Sunday the 5th in 40000 millennium

the Shadow legion march on wards towards White scars in a training battle...
we came... we saw... we were conquered

afterwards a round of kill-team was play
out of a 8 man kill team of 6 tactical's, 1 scout and 1 damned VS 5 space marine brute squads... only 2 walked away from a successful mission to destroy a stolen Rhino...

Sam__thereletless has one point
Nightfall has one point

Sam your lascannon on the top of that tower was funny...
just could not take out ANY! ruins... maybe 2...

Lol my Damned got pawned by that lascannon thou... HEADSHOT!
my sniper was.... well... useless... He just looks awesome.

Nightfall wrote:Sunday the 5th in 40000 millennium

the Shadow legion march on wards towards White scars in a training battle...
we came... we saw... we were conquered

afterwards a round of kill-team was play
out of a 8 man kill team of 6 tactical's, 1 scout and 1 damned VS 5 space marine brute squads... only 2 walked away from a successful mission to destroy a stolen Rhino...

Sam__thereletless has one point
Nightfall has one point

Sam your lascannon on the top of that tower was funny...
just could not take out ANY! ruins... maybe 2...

Lol my Damned got pawned by that lascannon thou... HEADSHOT!
my sniper was.... well... useless... He just looks awesome.

That's because your sniper's a scout. So he can't hit anything.

Do you have DECENT photos? Send them to me, I want to put them on my blog.

And I think we should prpbably not do this publicly, pm me or put it on a battle reports thread (but then we need to make a proper battle report)