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JimmyWolf87 wrote:
This update both helps clarify and makes it just as vague at the same time. It's quite a feat.

Welcome to Necromunda 2017

Well, I ordered me a set #2. Hoping for Goliaths and Orlocks soon with some more exciting weapon selections.

Looking at the sets again they don’t seem too disappointing. There’s 1 heavy and 3 special per set and then a variety of other weapons. It’s not perfect but better then I first thought.

So much for my hope of getting a right hand stub pistol for my Goliaths.

 Breotan wrote:
So much for my hope of getting a right hand stub pistol for my Goliaths.

You didn't think the Escher set would contain weapons for the Goliaths, did you?

warl0rdb0b wrote:

There's a good number from the multipart Genestealer Cult units, 5 in the Acolyte set alone.

The arm have 3rd gen Genestealer Hybrid skeletal hand, with claw.

Same for some of the arms from Neophyte Hybrid box, including the Heavy Stubber arm.

People are fine with this?

Chopstick wrote:

warl0rdb0b wrote:

There's a good number from the multipart Genestealer Cult units, 5 in the Acolyte set alone.

The arm have 3rd gen Genestealer Hybrid skeletal hand, with claw.

Same for some of the arms from Neophyte Hybrid box, including the Heavy Stubber arm.

People are fine with this?

So, err, cut the hand off and stick the gun on a ganger's hand. In the case of the Heavy Stubber, I used that myself for a Goliath, you just need to trim the "claws" a little on the left hand and scrape down the back of the right hand a little bit.

It'll probably look bad and you'll end up chopping more 4th Gen GSC arm just to have a matching grip. For Goliath it was pretty simple if you want a Hand Flamer, just use the Space Marine one.

I mean if you don't really care you can just slap them togerther and move on, but for me everytime I tried a separate grip arm + gun I end up have to re-adjust the gun constantly because I feel like they're always slightly misaligned.

I'm pretty pleased with these weapon sets, except for the lack of shotguns. Thats a real missed opportunity and kind of a head scratcher.

I do like that there are lots of mirror options for stuff we already have. It may seem redundant, but as someone who is really excited for Necormonuda for the model building opportunities and opens up a bunch of neat options. I'll probably end up building 40 or more Eschers just for fun and painting, even if I never actually use more than a 10 or so.

 jake wrote:
I'm pretty pleased with these weapon sets, except for the lack of shotguns. Thats a real missed opportunity and kind of a head scratcher.

Especially when they bothered to put a new ammo type for shotguns in the pdf.

Chopstick wrote:
It'll probably look bad and you'll end up chopping more 4th Gen GSC arm just to have a matching grip. For Goliath it was pretty simple if you want a Hand Flamer, just use the Space Marine one.

I mean if you don't really care you can just slap them togerther and move on, but for me everytime I tried a separate grip arm + gun I end up have to re-adjust the gun constantly because I feel like they're always slightly misaligned.

I mean, sure, things will look bad if you put no effort into them. And? The FW weapon arms will look bad if you just took them out of the baggie and slapped them on the models with zero effort, they need to be washed and prepped, pinned and gap-filled to look their best - why is fixing a marginal misalignment at the shoulder joint easier than fixing a marginal misalignment between the hand and the gun?

And hey, maybe I'm just delusional, but I don't think this looks gak:



...mold line on the foot I hadn't noticed before aside. Took about half an hour of test fitting arms, trimming the GSC stubber, and gap filling.

Chopstick wrote:

warl0rdb0b wrote:

There's a good number from the multipart Genestealer Cult units, 5 in the Acolyte set alone.

The arm have 3rd gen Genestealer Hybrid skeletal hand, with claw.

Same for some of the arms from Neophyte Hybrid box, including the Heavy Stubber arm.

People are fine with this?

You could snip/cut the gun away from the hand and do the same with the Escher hands, its not the most taxing of conversions.

Baxx wrote:
Wasn't hand flamer quite hard to get? Was raiding the bitz box a few years back for Necromunda, only one I found was the old one from the original Necromunda plastic weapons sprue.

The old close combat weapon sprue for Marines had one on so marine players from 2nd usually had a god number lying around.

 Breotan wrote:
So much for my hope of getting a right hand stub pistol for my Goliaths.

That's a quite simple conversion.

 Breotan wrote:
So much for my hope of getting a right hand stub pistol for my Goliaths.

They announced (and showed) packs of Goliath weapons just over a month ago: https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/2640/743059.page

Looks like there might be three packs as well.

Edit: Your probably not going to have to wait long before they are released.

 jake wrote:
I'm pretty pleased with these weapon sets, except for the lack of shotguns.

The look of some of the weapons makes me think shotguns are a simple clip and drill away. The melta and flamer in set 1 make me think shotgun conversion with ease.

To be fair - the conversion shouldn't need to happen - because shotguns should be included... but we have what we have.

Were there articles similar to the Sump Dogs one?

What articles?

Sorry if this has been covered. Will weapon upgrades for Necromunda
be sold through regular shops or mail order only?

 malfred wrote:
Sorry if this has been covered. Will weapon upgrades for Necromunda
be sold through regular shops or mail order only?

Only mail order from Forgeworld (the UK).

Am I right in saying all the stub guns released in the N17 models so far are stub revolvers? No stub automatics? Would be cool to have the variety, but I can see why they might be wanting to standardise them down for visual recognition purposes.

Thanks. So I just gotta wait for that sweet 350 dollar point.

Scott-S6 wrote:

Baxx wrote:
Wasn't hand flamer quite hard to get? Was raiding the bitz box a few years back for Necromunda, only one I found was the old one from the original Necromunda plastic weapons sprue.

The old close combat weapon sprue for Marines had one on so marine players from 2nd usually had a god number lying around.

Honestly like 10-15% of the gun holding hands in the 4th gen box are stealer claws, almost all are human hands by a vast majority. And the ones that are claws, honestly it really couldn't be a simpler 'conversion' to get rid of it, about 15 seconds of work with clippers and a sanding strip.

malfred wrote:Thanks. So I just gotta wait for that sweet 350 dollar point.

FW was actually pretty damn reasonable shipping fed-ex to me in Canada, it was 3 pounds. I was actually kind of impressed if anything.

There has been some reports about announcements from facebook saying that the Escher weapon pdf is correct and overrides earlier publications. It contradicts earlier costs and even the FAQ for the Fear trait.

 MajorTom11 wrote:

malfred wrote:Thanks. So I just gotta wait for that sweet 350 dollar point.

FW was actually pretty damn reasonable shipping fed-ex to me in Canada, it was 3 pounds. I was actually kind of impressed if anything.

But...freeeeee

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Breotan wrote:
So much for my hope of getting a right hand stub pistol for my Goliaths.

You didn't think the Escher set would contain weapons for the Goliaths, did you?

I was just lamenting that there was no release for Goliaths given they were also in the main box. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy they released the Escher upgrades, it's just given how long they take between releases I'll be stuck with my hatchet-job conversions for the foreseeable future. :(

I’ve sourced 1mmx1mm rare earth doc magnets for the Escher arms and have already put 2mm magnets in the body sockets for the arms. I was just waiting to see if these kits would be all shoulder attachments, which they are.
Very happy.

 Waaagh_Gonads wrote:
I’ve sourced 1mmx1mm rare earth doc magnets for the Escher arms and have already put 2mm magnets in the body sockets for the arms. I was just waiting to see if these kits would be all shoulder attachments, which they are.
Very happy.

oooh...you can get 1mmx1mm?? smallest I've seen is 2mmx1mm...

I’d be much more tolerant of the profusion of Hand Flamers in the Escher upgrade packs if we could get a clarification as to whether they should have the ‘pistol’ trait.

 Lord Fishface wrote:
I’d be much more tolerant of the profusion of Hand Flamers in the Escher upgrade packs if we could get a clarification as to whether they should have the ‘pistol’ trait.

Why would that need further clarification? they clearly don't have the pistol trait under the trait heading in any released material regardless of whether or not they are listed under pistols in the wargear sections.