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Matt Ward has made some of the most overpowered codex's in the current 40k Rules (Grey Knights one example). What I want to know is, has he ruined your hobby as much as he has to me and my underpowered Tau?

Not really...
It's not all about playing, some people simply love collecting or modelling or painting.
I like playing but i don't particularly care if i win or lose...

First of all, Mat.

Second, I'm not following you, at all. Nothing written by him is unbeatable. Not being able to find any way to beat an army from any of the <insert plural form of 'codex' here> he has written is a failure on your part.

Um, my Tau have yet to lose a match (1 draw, 5 Ws)... and yes, I've fought GK with them.

Why are you think that Tau are weak?
They have 4'th edition and can still kick ass...
And they should get new codex soon so don't worry...

GoDz BuZzSaW wrote:Matt Ward has made some of the most overpowered codex's in the current 40k Rules (Grey Knights one example). What I want to know is, has he ruined your hobby as much as he has to me and my underpowered Tau?

Matt Ward also wrote the Deamon codex, helped with the Space Marine Codex, and helped with the 5th edition rule book.




not everything he has written has caused such angst.


and cries of OP are all unfounded. the codex is actually quite balanced. it is powerful, but far from unbeatable.



maybe your problems stem from playing Tau, an army in need of a new codex and one that has been viewed as sub par for quite some time.

Tau are very difficult to play correctly, but can do very well. I suspect your issues are in the area of experience and have little to nothing to do with the GK codex itself.





My hobby has become so much more wonderful now that my previously under-powered GKs are actually competitive.

GKs coudln't shake a stick at Tau before the codex was released. quit your wining, our time has come. yours shall come too, just not today.

Oh look, another one of these threads.
Grey Knights are not overpowered. Blood Angels are generally accepted as being very capable in un-skilled hands.
Imperial Guard and Space Wolves are close to what a sane individual would describe an 'over-powered' army to be.
Apologies but, you can't be very successful with the Tau in general, who despite being out-dated, are still very good, if you find that the niche army that is the Grey Knights who really are the opposite of you're army, is 'ruining' your hobby. Here's some advice. Adapt. Not every army is the same. Sure your Tau may not have the same flexibility as a Marine army, but anyone who wants to be successful should realize that an army isn't overpowered simply because you were beaten once.
I on the other hand have found that the Grey Knights book has enriched my hobby.

Whiny thread.

Draigo'd in the first post? Nice.

Far worse than his rules is his fluff. His writing reads like bad internet fanfic, and his rules follow. While they aren't as broken as the OP makes them out to be, IG and Wolves I think are more powerful than Wards books (though not by all that much) they are some of my least favorite to have to play against.

I also think his fluff is made out to be worse then it actually is.


dropping one word from the Blood Angle codex would have totally eliminated the Bromance myth.




and who's to say the Sisters weren't willing sacrifices?


and the background fluff behind Bloodtides actually makes the whole escapade make sense.

1) Find friends who feel the same

2) Play 3E, or 4th. Play anything you want.

Matt Ward isn't ruining anything - he didn't magically come to your house, rip up and burn your old rulebooks and codices, then systematically delete all online records of past rules and codices disavowing all knowledge of previous rulesets.

Grey Templar wrote:I also think his fluff is made out to be worse then it actually is.


dropping one word from the Blood Angle codex would have totally eliminated the Bromance myth.




and who's to say the Sisters weren't willing sacrifices?


and the background fluff behind Bloodtides actually makes the whole escapade make sense.

Ok Matt Ward, you dont have to defend yourself so hard on public forums.

Well, he does when he's assaulted with such a high level of irrational neck-beard rage.

Current Threat level - CRITICAL

I am not Matt Ward.



It would be pretty tough to fly to California and make an online account from there.

Grey Templar wrote:I am not Matt Ward.



It would be pretty tough to fly to California and make an online account from there.

Poor defense, as a proxy could give the impression he is in California.

A more realistic defense is: I'm not Mat Ward because he wouldn't waste his time to even read this thread, much less respond. Quit whining, no one cares.

Mat Ward has not ruined my hobby.

Not even GW and their managerial poop flickings have ruined my hobby.

Mat Ward has not stopped me buying GW products, it was the poop flicking.
As there is more to hobby life than GW, so there is more to life than hobbies.

Grey Templar, how do we know you are not Mat Ward? We only have your word for it. Has anyone ever seen Mat Ward and Grey Templar in a room together?
I think not.

GT please answer this question honestly:
Do you like pickles?

No, Mat Ward hasn't ruined my hobby. He hasn't ruined jack gak. He wrote some kind of lousy fluff in a few codices, and all the mouthbreathers who think he's the first horseman of the apocalypse can stuff it.

No, i hate pickles.


I get all my Burgers with just the meat, cheese, and the bun.

Tau have a very very easy time fighting grey knights, what exactly are you doing wrong?

Grey Templar wrote:No, i hate pickles.


I get all my Burgers with just the meat, cheese, and the bun.

There we have it. Incontrovertible proof that Grey Templar is NOT Mat Ward.

Mat (or Mousie as we members of the Pickles and Preserves Appreciation Society like to call our honorary pres) is most partial to his pickles and would have had to answer in the affirmative.

Multra wrote:

Grey Templar wrote:I also think his fluff is made out to be worse then it actually is.


dropping one word from the Blood Angle codex would have totally eliminated the Bromance myth.




and who's to say the Sisters weren't willing sacrifices?


and the background fluff behind Bloodtides actually makes the whole escapade make sense.

Ok Matt Ward, you dont have to defend yourself so hard on public forums.

Poor Matt Ward.

He gets all this flak for what Mat Ward has done.

His dexes are, at least ruleswise, among the best that Warhammer 40k has to offer. Very few truly useless units, quite a bit of diversity and a very good external and internal balance.
If you want borderline op ( and even that is debatable, the 5. edition is quite well balanced ) then look for the Furywolves and the Imperial Guard and not for Blood Angels, Grey Knights or vanilla marines.

Tau are indeed one of the more mediocre books atm, but a combination of Crisis suits, Broadsides and Piranhas will still win games for you.

He squated my all-Inquisition army and turned the Grey Knights into another boring SM chapter with Rhinos and Razorbacks.

I can't say I'm impressed with him.

^^ wolves... worst. army. ever.

basically there are some cool space wolves players but there are also lots of waac space wolves and i can't enjoy an army where i charge with 30 boys and a nob at a 10 man group then be countercharged, lose 20 before my 10 attack, after armor saves get in 3 wounds, lose the rest in a sweeping advance. all the while had i not assaulted i'd have been gunned down to death cause they don't have much weakness... but as long as i can stay in cover i can still beat em.. i just feel like i play players i can mop the floor with and skill wise am above but then strugle and can't make a mistake to beat them with wolves

That perhaps wasn't the best move to make. I like the greater amount of information on the Grey Knights, but it really does just come off as another Marine Codex. They should have put a lot more of an emphasis on the Inquisition, and the Grey Knights as a subsidiary of it.

@Kyoto: You know you can still play Inquisition without GK, right? Oh and there were rhinos in the last GK codex too. So oh noes, the GK figured out how to put guns on them? Something that FW did previously with the Psycannon RB.

G00fySmiley wrote:^^ wolves... worst. army. ever.

Awesome post there Goofy. Million dollar question, who wrote C: SW, Goofy? It wasn't Ward.

I didn't say matt ward wrote wolves ... look waht i was responding to

"His dexes are, at least ruleswise, among the best that Warhammer 40k has to offer. Very few truly useless units, quite a bit of diversity and a very good external and internal balance.
If you want borderline op ( and even that is debatable, the 5. edition is quite well balanced ) then look for the Furywolves and the Imperial Guard and not for Blood Angels, Grey Knights or vanilla marines. "

Well yeah, you can still play Inquisition, but not the with the same ease as before. For example, henchmen units are only troops with Corteaz. What if you don't want to take him though? It's really quite limiting.


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G00fySmiley wrote:I didn't say matt ward wrote wolves ... look waht i was responding to

"His dexes are, at least ruleswise, among the best that Warhammer 40k has to offer. Very few truly useless units, quite a bit of diversity and a very good external and internal balance.
If you want borderline op ( and even that is debatable, the 5. edition is quite well balanced ) then look for the Furywolves and the Imperial Guard and not for Blood Angels, Grey Knights or vanilla marines. "

Then quote them. Or at least say who you're replying to. Without it you came off as exactly that, The Most Uninformed Poster Ever. The Space Wolves have little to do with Mat Ward anyway.

This was just a random dig I made about an army I have never even played against.

I didn't know the thread would get this much hate

G00fySmiley wrote:^^ wolves... worst. army. ever.

basically there are some cool space wolves players but there are also lots of waac space wolves and i can't enjoy an army where i charge with 30 boys and a nob at a 10 man group then be countercharged, lose 20 before my 10 attack, after armor saves get in 3 wounds, lose the rest in a sweeping advance. all the while had i not assaulted i'd have been gunned down to death cause they don't have much weakness... but as long as i can stay in cover i can still beat em.. i just feel like i play players i can mop the floor with and skill wise am above but then strugle and can't make a mistake to beat them with wolves

iproxtaco wrote:Well yeah, you can still play Inquisition, but not the with the same ease as before. For example, henchmen units are only troops with Corteaz. What if you don't want to take him though? It's really quite limiting.


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G00fySmiley wrote:I didn't say matt ward wrote wolves ... look waht i was responding to

"His dexes are, at least ruleswise, among the best that Warhammer 40k has to offer. Very few truly useless units, quite a bit of diversity and a very good external and internal balance.
If you want borderline op ( and even that is debatable, the 5. edition is quite well balanced ) then look for the Furywolves and the Imperial Guard and not for Blood Angels, Grey Knights or vanilla marines. "

Then quote them. Or at least say who you're replying to. Without it you came off as exactly that, The Most Uninformed Poster Ever. The Space Wolves have little to do with Mat Ward anyway.

sorry on most boards i post to it is considered courtious if posting on the same page to add arroows like ^ for one up ^^ for 2 up to ^3, ^4 or ^5 then after that your quote to keep the pages shorter... i thought most peopel understood what the ^ stood for , sorry

and GoDz BuZzSaW any mention of matt ward will get lots of hate posters ... it is the way of things