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**BoA.Raccoon**

Hey there

I've been inspired lately (notely by Hits_the_spot) to start a Space Marine Army. This is a *rough* list I'm planning on. I'm going to get my hands on a codex in a few weeks (my friend no longer plays). I'm also going to brainstorm fluff and paint schemes, so mods, please don't move this to Army List, 'cause that's part of the overall project

Please

I'll give you a cookie.

I'm going to go for a holy/eagle look.

HQ

Ultramarines Chapter Champion

Ultramarines Honor Guard

ELITE

Dreadnaught

Terminator Squad x2

TROOP

Tactical Squad x5 (?)

Scouts (Snipers or Regular?) x2 (One of each?)

DED. TRANSPORT

Rhino x6 (Tactical Squads, one extra)

Drop Pod x4 (Termies and Scouts. Can they ride them?)

FAST ATTACK

Space Marine Assault Squad x3

HEAVY SUPPORT

[I really am unsure for all of these. Help? ]

Devastator Squad x2

Vindicator or Predator (?)

There we are for the ROUGH list. Once again, I'm not getting ahead of myself or anything (maybe a little

) I'm just thinking ahead. I'm not going to get carried away (maybe a little

) and ruin this army like my Guard army [being redone ground up >.< ]. I'm going to start with a tac squad, carefully painting and taking my time, then a second, third. Then I'll do my champion. Then my Dread, etc etc.

Please, comments, questions, concerns, critiques, etc are greatly appreciated and needed. Let me know if I'm missing something crucial or if I have something unneeded. Also a rough point estimate would be nice

Going to start brainstorming background and color schemes

**Brother SRM**

Scouts can't use drop pods, and Terminators don't need them since they can deep strike anyway. Devastators can be alright, but their weapons are very expensive. You're better off getting a Predator with an audocannon and lascannon sponsons for anti tank, or the same with heavy bolter sponsons for anti infantry. Sniper scouts are good against monstrous creatures, but close combat scouts make for a great interference unit. Also, I personally love Vindicators but not all Marine players do. A Land Raider Crusader would also be a great investment for something like your honor guard or close combat Terminators. These are already frighteningly expensive units though.

**Nicholas**

Uggh Ultra marines... just kidding. looks like a good list Predator vs vindicator would depend on the situation I prefer vidicator, but i play BA so I get closer faster. Why put scouts in pods infiltrate them to save points

**BoA.Raccoon**

To SRM

Right, I forgot about infiltrate and deep strike. Like I said I still don't have a codex in my sweaty little hands, so yeah. Personally, I don't mind having an expensive army, (point wise), besides, I can always leave out a rhino, or the scouts or something.

As for the predator, I'd probably focus on anti infantry because I don't face a lot of tanky armies (Waagh, Nids, Tau).

Scouts: Should I get one of each then? I think that'd be the perfect balance..

Land raider cruiser.. I'll think about it, it's really not a bad idea

To Nicholas

Not ultramarines per say, just using the models. Maybe an ultramarine subchapter. I'm not sure yet. I'm thinking predator. My friend (codex friend ) has both, and the two times I fought him with my guard (and when his brother with his waagh) his vindicator seemed to sit around scratching it's balls, err treads, the whole time.

Thanks guys, I'll post a new list. I'm looking at previous fluffs of Space Marine armies. I'll work on it soon. Probably post some mission logs in the fiction section (I'll post links). Thanks again for the quick and helpful response.

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List 1.1:

HQ

Ultramarines Chapter Champion

Ultramarines Honor Guard

ELITE

Dreadnaught (Venerable)
-storm bolter
-power fist

Terminator Squad x2
-chainfist
-chainfist
-heavy flamer
TROOP

Tactical Squad x5
-rocket
-melta
-melta
-rocket
-melta

Scouts x2
-snipers
-2 shotguns
-2 bolters

DED. TRANSPORT

Rhino x6 (Tactical Squads, one extra)

FAST ATTACK

Space Marine Assault Squad x3

HEAVY SUPPORT

Devastator Squad x2 (?)
-multi melta
-rocket
-lascannon
-lascannon
-heavy bolter
-multi melta
-heavy bolter
-rocket
-Each with a Sergeant
Predator
-autocannon
-heavy bolters

Still rough, not official

**Tyranids? Tyranids.**

I would get rid of the devastators completely. Vindicators are really good for everything(strength 10 AP 2 large blast ordinance). Also, 5 tactical squads aren't needed. Two maybe three(with rihnos or razorbacks) because they're so expensive. I would recomend assult terminators over normal, but that's just me. Assult marines don't do much in my past experience for their high point value so I would replace those with bikes or speeders. Especialy speeders if you are going to use scouts. Use what fits your playstyle best though!

**BoA.Raccoon**

Thanks, but I think the devastators would come in handy. As for the vindicator, the stats seem nice but I still feel something wrong. I'm going to go with the predator for now, just on a hunch. I was thinking, I'm going to put in a lot of terminators and a lot of scouts. I want to have a trademark, but both Termies and Scouts seem good in game, and fluff wise Scouts are fantastic. I feel like having a load of snipers could be nice.
I'll think about it and post a new list in a few minutes.
I'm only putting in one assault squad. Damn, I can't wait to get this army started. I don't want to wait for the Codex

Maybe if I just start with the tactical squad?

Just one.. I'll just wait for the sergeant and the power weapon, but I can still do the bolters

I'll do that

I'm going to go out tomorrow and buy stuff

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List 1.2

HQ

Ultramarines Chapter Champion

Ultramarines Honor Guard

ELITE

Dreadnaught (Venerable)
-storm bolter
-power fist

Terminator Squad x2
-chainfist
-chainfist
-heavy flamer

Assault Terminator x2
-lightning claws
-lightning claws
-lightning claws
-thunder hammer

TROOP

Tactical Squad x5
-rocket
-melta
-melta
-rocket
-melta

Scouts x2
-2 shotguns
-2 bolters

Sniper Scouts x2
-snipers

DED. TRANSPORT

Rhino x5 (Tactical Squads)

FAST ATTACK

Assault Marines

HEAVY SUPPORT

Devastator Squad x2
-multi melta
-rocket
-lascannon
-lascannon
-heavy bolter
-multi melta
-heavy bolter
-rocket
-Each with a Sergeant

Predator
-autocannon
-heavy bolters

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Rough Fluff:

The Sons of Oceanus were promising marines, crews and scouts from various companies who were drafted without choice nor with consultation.

If the Champion Charon saw it fit, he would send his Honor Guard (Heracles and Achilles) to abduct the soldier and introduce them to their new family. The Sons of Oceanus are a secretive Chapter, the Emperor and few others know of them, the rest is myth, which explains why they share similar colors to the Ultramarines, from afar the difference will not be made. (Black and Blue, instead of Yellow and Blue)

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Possible color change. I'm playing around with color on some old models.

**BoA.Raccoon**

Almost done with my first test dummy marine. Playing around with techniques, highlighting, colors and the base. I'll post pictures

**Tyranids? Tyranids.**

BoA.Raccoon wrote:Thanks, but I think the devastators would come in handy. As for the vindicator, the stats seem nice but I still feel something wrong. I'm going to go with the predator for now, just on a hunch. I was thinking, I'm going to put in a lot of terminators and a lot of scouts. I want to have a trademark, but both Termies and Scouts seem good in game, and fluff wise Scouts are fantastic. I feel like having a load of snipers could be nice.
I'll think about it and post a new list in a few minutes.
I'm only putting in one assault squad. Damn, I can't wait to get this army started. I don't want to wait for the Codex Maybe if I just start with the tactical squad? Just one.. I'll just wait for the sergeant and the power weapon, but I can still do the bolters
I'll do that I'm going to go out tomorrow and buy stuff

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List 1.2

HQ

Ultramarines Chapter Champion

Ultramarines Honor Guard

ELITE

Dreadnaught (Venerable)
-storm bolter
-power fist

Terminator Squad x2
-chainfist
-chainfist
-heavy flamer

Assault Terminator x2
-lightning claws
-lightning claws
-lightning claws
-thunder hammer

TROOP

Tactical Squad x5
-rocket
-melta
-melta
-rocket
-melta

Scouts x2
-2 shotguns
-2 bolters

Sniper Scouts x2
-snipers

DED. TRANSPORT

Rhino x5 (Tactical Squads)

FAST ATTACK

Assault Marines

HEAVY SUPPORT

Devastator Squad x2
-multi melta
-rocket
-lascannon
-lascannon
-heavy bolter
-multi melta
-heavy bolter
-rocket
-Each with a Sergeant

Predator
-autocannon
-heavy bolters

Nice list!

**BoA.Raccoon**

Here he is you guys

My first Son of Oceanus. Nothing special, sloppy paint job. I'm pretty happy though.

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He's got the tactical arrow to show he's in a tactical squad, and the roman numeral I shows he's in Tac Squad I.

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List 1.3

Just added an Elite choice, and Talion. I also remembered I have 2 bikers, one scout one Marine.

HQ

Ultramarines Chapter Champion

Ultramarines Honor Guard

ELITE

Dreadnaught (Venerable)
-storm bolter
-power fist

Terminator Squad x2
-chainfist
-chainfist
-heavy flamer

Assault Terminator x2
-lightning claws
-lightning claws
-lightning claws
-thunder hammer

TROOP

Tactical Squad x5
-rocket
-melta
-melta
-rocket
-melta

Scouts x2
-2 shotguns
-2 bolters

Sniper Scouts x2
-snipers
-Talion

DED. TRANSPORT

Rhino x5 (Tactical Squads)

FAST ATTACK

Space Marine Attack Bike

Space Marine Scout Bike

Assault Marines

HEAVY SUPPORT

Devastator Squad x2
-multi melta
-rocket
-lascannon
-lascannon
-heavy bolter
-multi melta
-heavy bolter
-rocket
-Each with a Sergeant

Predator
-autocannon
-heavy bolters

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Got my hands on a codex. Only going to have it for a few days though. Going to check it out and rework the list.

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Alright guys. I've got it

It comes out to a little short of 4,000 points. Here we go:

List 1.4

HQ
Chapter Master Charon with Powersword
+Honor Guard
+Chapter Banner
+Relic Blade
+Chapter Champion Râ with double relic swords
=310 points

TROOPS
Tactical Squad I
+5 marines
+melta gun
+multimelta
Sergeant
+chainsword
+Plasma Pistol
=190

Tactical Squad II
+5 marines
+flamer
+missile launcher
Sergeant
+Power Sword
=185
Tactical Squad III
+5 marines
+Plasmagun
+Plasma Cannon
Sergeant
+Plasma Pistol
+Chainsword
=200

Tactical squad IV
+5 marines
+flamer
+heavy bolter
Sergeant
+Powerfist
+Powersword
=210

Tactical Squad V
+5 marines
+meltagun
+heavy bolter
Sergeant
+Storm Bolter
=185

Scout Squad Alpha
+3 sniper rifles
+missile launcher
+5 camo cloaks
Sergeant Telion
=150

Scout Squad Beta
+5 sniper rifles
+5 camo cloaks
=90

Scout Squad Gamma
+5 sniper rifles
+5 camo cloaks
=90

Scout Squad Delta
+5 scouts
+2 combat blades
+3 shotguns
Sergeant
+combi-flamer
=150

DED. TRANSPORTS NOTE: Rhino I applies to Tac Squad I, Rhino II to Tac Squad II, etc
Rhino I
+storm bolter
=45

Rhino II
+dozer blade
=40

Rhino III
+hunter-killer missile
=45

Rhino IV
+storm bolter
=45

Rhino V
+extra armor
=50

ELITES
Terminator Squad Hades
+heavy flamer
+3 chainfists
=220

Terminator Squad Apollo
+missile launcher
=230

Terminator Assault Squad Thor
+5 terminators
+2 storm shields and thunderhammers
=240

Venerable Dreadnaught Karon
+heavy flamer instead of storm bolter
=165

FAST ATTACK
Assault Squad Odin
+plasma pistol
Sergeant
+lightning claws
=145

HEAVY SUPPORT
Devastator Squad Typhon
+heavy bolter
+multimelta
+lascannon
+plasma cannon
Sergeant
+storm bolter
=195

Devastator Squad Antaeus
+lascannon
+2 missile launchers
+multi melta
=170

Predator Tanngnost
+heavy bolter sponsons
+storm boltera
=195

HQ = 310
TROOPS = 1820
DED. TRANSPORT = 225
ELITE = 865
FAST ATTACKS = 145
HEAVY SUPPORT = 460
GRAND TOTAL = 3,825

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I've found some vanguard veterans. Gotta see if I can make 'em legal.

**BoA.Raccoon**

I've got some Dark Angel Veterans, I'm going to shave off their symbols and make them into regular Veterans. Those are the "Vanguard Veterans" I was talking about, my mistake

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Army Reserve/Recruits
These are models I already have, already painted etc. My main force will be comprised of entirely newly built and painted models.

The Reserve will be distinguished by a red right knee plate and a red helmet-hawk. NOTE: The model above is in the reserve, and I painted him as such. I'm going to go out tomorrow (if I can get my lazy rear out of the house) to games-workshop, get some paints I'll need and 10 Space Marines. I'm building a bunch of reserves

Reserves will also be used in case of injuries (broken models >.<

. Thanks GirlPainting, you showed me to use cork plates, so I'm using actual wine corks to make my bases, and I can't get over how they look

I'll submit pictures of my reserves being built soon. (I'm particularly proud of my 3 Assault Marines

)

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I've got a bunch of new photos, I also found some old Marines in a bag

I found my old pride (now that I look at it it's kind of gakky) He was a commander of some sort. I might make him my Reserve Chapter Master. I also found A land speeder with no flying base, neither of the marines have arms, and the multi melta fell off. Oh well, I'll see what I can do.

Posting pics in a minute

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This is my commander, but instead of a powerfist he had a relic blade. (Middle guy)

I'll get a picture up of him before I strip him.

Pictures up in a second!

**BoA.Raccoon**

PIC HEAVY (30 pictures) The baseless marine at the beginning is the same as the based one at the end. Going to do another post with the other 12 pictures. The commander was one of my most recent minis before I stopped. These are amongst my 10 most recent minis after I restarted

I like the evolution of my prowess.

**BoA.Raccoon**

The last pictures

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My first attempt at scenic water, and my second attempt at highlighting (the two fully based/painted ones are my first two highlights

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List 1.4

HQ
Chapter Master Charon with Powersword
+Honor Guard
+Chapter Banner
+Relic Blade
+Chapter Champion Râ with double relic swords
=310 points

TROOPS
Tactical Squad I
+5 marines
+melta gun
+multimelta
Sergeant
+chainsword
+Plasma Pistol
=190

Tactical Squad II
+5 marines
+flamer
+missile launcher
Sergeant
+Power Sword
=185
Tactical Squad III
+5 marines
+Plasmagun
+Plasma Cannon
Sergeant
+Plasma Pistol
+Chainsword
=200

Tactical squad IV
+5 marines
+flamer
+heavy bolter
Sergeant
+Powerfist
+Powersword
=210

Tactical Squad V
+5 marines
+meltagun
+heavy bolter
Sergeant
+Storm Bolter
=185

Scout Squad Alpha
+3 sniper rifles
+missile launcher
+5 camo cloaks
Sergeant Telion
=150

Scout Squad Beta
+5 sniper rifles
+5 camo cloaks
=90

Scout Squad Gamma
+5 sniper rifles
+5 camo cloaks
=90

Scout Squad Delta
+5 scouts
+2 combat blades
+3 shotguns
Sergeant
+combi-flamer
=150

DED. TRANSPORTS NOTE: Rhino I applies to Tac Squad I, Rhino II to Tac Squad II, etc
Rhino I
+storm bolter
=45

Rhino II
+dozer blade
=40

Rhino III
+hunter-killer missile
=45

Rhino IV
+storm bolter
=45

Rhino V
+extra armor
=50

ELITES
Terminator Squad Hades
+heavy flamer
+3 chainfists
=220

Terminator Squad Apollo
+missile launcher
=230

Terminator Assault Squad Thor
+5 terminators
+2 storm shields and thunderhammers
=240

Venerable Dreadnaught Karon
+heavy flamer instead of storm bolter
=165

FAST ATTACK
Assault Squad Odin
+plasma pistol
Sergeant
+lightning claws
=145

HEAVY SUPPORT
Devastator Squad Typhon
+heavy bolter
+multimelta
+lascannon
+plasma cannon
Sergeant
+storm bolter
=195

Devastator Squad Antaeus
+lascannon
+2 missile launchers
+multi melta
=170

Predator Tanngnost
+heavy bolter sponsons
+storm boltera
=195

RESERVE NOTE: Listed are only completed marines.These are my reserves in need of extra units, because of broken models, etc..
Space Marines with Bolter (x2)

HQ = 310
TROOPS = 1820
DED. TRANSPORT = 225
ELITE = 865
FAST ATTACKS = 145
HEAVY SUPPORT = 460
GRAND TOTAL = 3,825

**BoA.Raccoon**

Hmm.. I'm missing a lot fluff-wise. I need
Chaplain
Librarian
Masters of the Fleet, Watch, Recruits, Arsenal, etc.

etc..

I need to have a captain (no problem) and a Chapter Master (I'll use a commander of some sort)

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I'm going to re-boot my army. The marines I've painted (though I'm VERY happy with the job I did) will be repainted, etc etc. I will keep the list, though it will be edited, I may change the name (and therefore those of the units), I WILL change the color scheme, and I'm going to work a lot on the fluff before building or painting anything.

**BoA.Raccoon**

Well this is dead.. Refer to my new Chapter thread instead please