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When is this coming out?

Tomorrow.

Yay!

I got mine a couple of hours ago.

I'm getting mine soon!

Harkevich I didn't think I'd like you, but know this. You have stolen my heart~ Also demolisher <3

Harkevitch's character is very like able.

I just saw the preview copy. I'm actually happy with the new Khador caster, despite disliking the sculpt. I like the new khador assassin unit.

I'm severely disappointed in the Retribution section. The new caster is good, but the artificer should really be magic ability 7, not 6. And the rifle team is meh.

Daughters of the Flame might be good now, the new PoM caster is sweet.

And my fav battle engine is the Protectorate one, go figure.

As far as I can tell the Retribution still has nothing that ignores stealth ...

I am actually eager to try the daemon against stealth. I think if I just run a solo or stray unit model out there near the enemy (but not in melee) and shoot it in the back I should be able to draw in a few enemies for that pow 12 to tear into. Sometimes it takes sacrifices to get the job done, but that can be very mean against non-reach infantry.
Speaking of the Daemon, I get the feeling I am the only one excited by this jack and I couldn't be more puzzled as to why.
The only real disappointment to me from wrath is triumph. though I do agree on the artificer's magic ability

Noisy_Marine wrote:I just saw the preview copy. I'm actually happy with the new Khador caster, despite disliking the sculpt. I like the new khador assassin unit.

I'm severely disappointed in the Retribution section. The new caster is good, but the artificer should really be magic ability 7, not 6. And the rifle team is meh.

Daughters of the Flame might be good now, the new PoM caster is sweet.

And my fav battle engine is the Protectorate one, go figure.

As far as I can tell the Retribution still has nothing that ignores stealth ...

Daughters are already good, they're just not a god-unit. Their role
is to harry and kill solos or support officers and they will manage to
do that. You just don't want to take two units of them with anyone
but Thyra.

Is there actually a new Harrower/Leviathan like warjack?

Yes.

Very cool, I run a four legged themed army. I know there was a rumor about a new model, but conformation is always nice.

Well the anticipation is that with the new 'jacks running on the
"other" heavy chassis for the different factions that it's going to
herald the release of another plastic kit.

That's what people are hoping at least.

Hmm, that would make sense, those models took quite a lot of pinning. Oh well, metal or plastic, a new four legged model will be a must have.

Dais wrote:I am actually eager to try the daemon against stealth. I think if I just run a solo or stray unit model out there near the enemy (but not in melee) and shoot it in the back I should be able to draw in a few enemies for that pow 12 to tear into. Sometimes it takes sacrifices to get the job done, but that can be very mean against non-reach infantry.

It doesn't work

Daemon
Retribution Heavy Myrmidon
Vortex Cannon [1x] RNG: 10 ROF: 1 AOE: * POW: 12
Vortex Blast - If this attack misses, nothing happens. If it directly hits an enemy model, before making the damage roll, push models within 2˝ of the model hit 2˝ directly toward it in the order you choose. Then center a 3˝ AOE on the model hit. Models hit suffer a POW 12 damage roll.

So shoot the dude next to the stealthed dude. Just not your own.

malfred wrote:So shoot the dude next to the stealthed dude. Just not your own.

Any player worth his salt know not to put non-stealthed models near stealth ones when opponents has AOE or similar things (chain lightning, ashes to ashes, etc.). Still anything that prevents opponent from moving the way he wants is a good thing.

And you'd never run anything up next to it and shoot your own guy.

12thRonin wrote:And you'd never run anything up next to it and shoot your own guy.

As I said in my previous post that doesn't work with Daemon.

True enough.

I would like to see an official errata that states that Battle engines can be taken in Theme lists.....If there isn't one already.

CATACLYSMUS wrote:I would like to see an official errata that states that Battle engines can be taken in Theme lists.....If there isn't one already.

There isn't, and there won't be. They can only be taken in theme lists that they are specified in.

Bet there will be NQ list real soon with a new Epic Irusk tier that allows it.

CATACLYSMUS wrote:I would like to see an official errata that states that Battle engines can be taken in Theme lists.....If there isn't one already.

Compare some of the newer theme forces. Some allow their faction's
battle engine and some do not. I agree that I don't think you'll be seeing
errata retroactively allowing them in theme forces.

malfred wrote:

CATACLYSMUS wrote:I would like to see an official errata that states that Battle engines can be taken in Theme lists.....If there isn't one already.

Compare some of the newer theme forces. Some allow their faction's
battle engine and some do not. I agree that I don't think you'll be seeing
errata retroactively allowing them in theme forces.

Me either. I think the new Forces of Distinction articles will cover these(speaking of, how happy was I to see the Bad Seeds list?).

Well, foo....