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K here it goes:

Hq:
Fateweaver (333)
2x Hearld of Tzeentch with Bolt/MOS/WAL (110 each)

Elite:
2x4 Bloodcrusher with all upgrades (200 each)

Troops:
6x5 horrors with bolt, one with changeling another with an icon (600 total)

Fast attack:
3x10 Hounds (150 each)

Heavy:
3 MOT/Bolt/Gaze (160 each)

Personally, I think this is a pretty gross list. You have 12 bolts, 6 DG and all the warpfires for shooting, with is all the shooting anti tank and infantry. For assualt you have the crushers and the hounds for speed, and sooner or later the 3 princes.

You guys know how fateweaver works and on top of all that other stuff is crazy.

Please Post, really needs everyone opinion, especially on the prince builds, wheather or not you like the hounds, and if I have enough anti infantry and AV 14.

I would drop the hounds and pick up some fiends. Other than that it looks like the Daemons list I used to play. Competitive as it gets for the codex.

I can still have 20 hounds with the fiends if I drop gaze off one prince.


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I have the same list as above, but I have 2x8 hounds one with Karanak and Fury of Khorne and a 6 man squad of fiends. What do you guys think about that?



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I kind of like 30 hounds though, because with grey knight out there now that would really help to have Botbg and fateweaver running with the hounds..... lol

Hounds are great: 30 is a little over-zealous though. A pack of 8 should be sufficient. Not everyone plays GKs (unless that's the case in your area), so that many hounds aren't as necessary. Trade 10 out for a unit of fiends, another 10 out for a unit of seekers (rending, very fast like fiends). The only comment I will make about the princes, since you know my take on them already, is to drop a Tzeentch one for a Nurgle one at least-tougher, great CC beast. But I recommend chariots for the Tzeentch princes if you are going to take them (I think a Bloodthirster would be better, personally). And the 30pts from 2 hounds dropped from the last group of 10 would pay for those chariots.

k here is another option, I noticed in my codex that karanak makes his hound unit a elite choice..... what I could do is to have more units (4 units) which I think personally would do better than fiends mainly because my shop has a lot of GK and its more units in general to cover the board with all beast units for speed, which makes up for wings. I can either have 4 units of 8 hounds or 2 units of 10 with 6 fiends.

Here is the finialist list:

Hq:
Fateweaver
2x Hearld of T on chariot with Bolt,WAL,MOS

Elite:
2x4 Crushers all upgrades
1x8 hounds with karanak

troops:
6x5 horrors with bolt, one with changeling another with icon

fast attack:
3x8 Hounds

Heavy
3 pirnces with MOT/Bolt/ and Gaze.

Personally, I think that is as gross as it gets.... lol



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timetowaste85 wrote:Hounds are great: 30 is a little over-zealous though. A pack of 8 should be sufficient. Not everyone plays GKs (unless that's the case in your area), so that many hounds aren't as necessary. Trade 10 out for a unit of fiends, another 10 out for a unit of seekers (rending, very fast like fiends). The only comment I will make about the princes, since you know my take on them already, is to drop a Tzeentch one for a Nurgle one at least-tougher, great CC beast. But I recommend chariots for the Tzeentch princes if you are going to take them (I think a Bloodthirster would be better, personally). And the 30pts from 2 hounds dropped from the last group of 10 would pay for those chariots.

Chariots for the princes? I really like winged CC princes too, but only reason I have Bolt princes is so I had the extra points to make up for the loss of wings, with hounds really.... lol

Remember that a Dreadknight can use Dark Excommunication to make your Daemonic gifts go bye bye. Those hounds would be no match for a DK without BoTBG and will quickly get punked.

Well, yeah..... but nothing I can really do about that lol



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Oh, Btw that list is 48 points over so it needs some fixing.... and what about screamers think that would be more effective than hounds, only reason why I have the hounds in there is because I don't feel like I have enough anti infantry.

No, I meant chariots for the heralds, not the princes. And it's a YMTC about Karanak-it says "his unit is elite as normal, he is simply an upgrade chosen for the unit," but normally they are fast. Everyone I play with accepts him as fast, seeing how the Changeling has the same rules and the same wording, but he doesn't change his units from troops or anything, nor has any other upgrade character alter slots-if it wasn't for the "as normal," Karanak would definitely make his unit elite. The "as normal" suggests that it's a typo. Check with your TO before the tournament, it's his/her call. If you were at a tourney I ran though, he'd stay as fast: I consider it a typo.

My experience with screamers is that they get targeted as soon as they land mostly because they don't want flying melta bombs hitting their parking lot.