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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/07 22:57:51
Subject: Pistoliers or Outriders?
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Been Around the Block
Fayetteville, AR
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So, the Title pretty much explains it
Thanks
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 0029/07/07 23:04:01
Subject: Handgunners or Outriders?
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Rampaging Furioso Blood Angel Dreadnought
Potters Bar, UK
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No further information available?
Army size?
Composition?
What you want to use it for on the Battlefield?
etc...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/07 23:19:52
Subject: Handgunners or Outriders?
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Ancient Space Wolves Venerable Dreadnought
Victoria B.C.
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Hand gunners have more wounds and you can get 3 for the price of 1 out rider. If I remember correctly.
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Overview of the WoC army book.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/388667.page#3171854
Ralin Givens is the chaos to my warriors. Ra Ra Ra go team awesome I mean chaos
Tzack Vahr Zhen's unholy followers.
all hail Howie Mandel deal or no deal it dosnt matter tzeentch wins
Khorne flakes part of a good breakfast when you plan to kill maim and burn all!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/08 00:16:35
Subject: Handgunners or Outriders?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Revenent Reiko wrote:No further information available?
Army size?
Composition?
What you want to use it for on the Battlefield?
etc...
This.
This isn't something you can ask and get a simple answer out of. The two fulfill different roles in the army and take up different slots. Usage and Army comp are important for actually providing an answer.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/08 00:18:32
Subject: Handgunners or Outriders?
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Ancient Space Wolves Venerable Dreadnought
Victoria B.C.
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Very true yay for not properly asked questions.
If you were going to write a cheese lsit what would be better to use I would say neither and get what hand gunners you get a few for the price of 1 that means 3 wounds and 3 wounds beats 3 shots per 1 wound.
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Overview of the WoC army book.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/388667.page#3171854
Ralin Givens is the chaos to my warriors. Ra Ra Ra go team awesome I mean chaos
Tzack Vahr Zhen's unholy followers.
all hail Howie Mandel deal or no deal it dosnt matter tzeentch wins
Khorne flakes part of a good breakfast when you plan to kill maim and burn all!!!
Do you have enough Priests do you?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/08 02:29:27
Subject: Re:Handgunners or Outriders?
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Basically, for the same points they're putting out the exact same number of shots, at the same accuracy, effective out to the same range. Both units have to stand still to fire.
With handgunners you get three times the wounds, and they come out of your core allotment.
With outriders you get that free move before play starts, plus a lot more mobility during the game, which might come in handy if you ever get in a situation where redeploying is worth giving up firing for one turn, or if you want to flee a charge rather than stand and shoot.
Personally, I've never gotten that much use out of the free move before play starts, that might just be me or the situation in games in my area, but I suspect that extra move actually just isn't worth the increased fragility.
Really though, it's up to the individual player, how he's built his army, and what he can get working for him.
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Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/08 03:22:03
Subject: Re:Pistoliers or Outriders?
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Been Around the Block
Fayetteville, AR
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Im dumb... i meant to type pistoliers or outriders, i was in a rush when i typed this, sorry
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/08 03:29:30
Subject: Pistoliers or Outriders?
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Ancient Space Wolves Venerable Dreadnought
Victoria B.C.
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I would go with outriders if I remember correctly they are a bit better compared to pistolliers.
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Overview of the WoC army book.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/388667.page#3171854
Ralin Givens is the chaos to my warriors. Ra Ra Ra go team awesome I mean chaos
Tzack Vahr Zhen's unholy followers.
all hail Howie Mandel deal or no deal it dosnt matter tzeentch wins
Khorne flakes part of a good breakfast when you plan to kill maim and burn all!!!
Do you have enough Priests do you?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/08 06:21:48
Subject: Pistoliers or Outriders?
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Pious Warrior Priest
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Outriders are better than pistoliers now that 8th edition is here.
Pistoliers are nowhere near as good as they were in 7th due to the fact that you can't march block anymore. I don't recommend them.
Outriders on the other hand, get to fire in 2 ranks, shoot 360 degrees and avoid combat completely.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/08 07:14:10
Subject: Pistoliers or Outriders?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Neither. Run the maths. Both are a waste of points.
Pistoliers fire fire at bs1 most of the time and they dont even get the extra attack because they are mounted. I seriously have no idea what they are supposed to do.
Outriders are handgunners but even less cost effective. Long range, -1. Multiple shots, -1. BS 2, same as handgunners firing at long range. Can't move or shoot either. If they choose to flee they have to take rally tests and are probably out of range of the BSB. Can't fire in the same turn that they rally, and its probable they are completely out of position after a flee.
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