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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/20 13:38:30
Subject: Need help killing some ummies with orks
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Smokin' Skorcha Driver
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Hello everyone,
I have been playing a few games with a mate that plays SM (ultramarines for the purpose). We have played 5 games so far and I have managed to win only once. The other two I either only killed one of his unit or any :(.
So I was hoping to get some help.
Our current armies are (mostly from AoBR):
Orks (600 points)
HQ: Warboss with PK,bosspole
Elite: 5 Nobz with sluggas choppas (AoBR)
Troops: 2x 19Boyz+1Nobz with PK and bosspole
Fast: 2Deffkoptas with TLRL (2 x single unit)
SM (600 points):
HQ:SM captain with Power weapon
Troops: 1 Tactical marine squad 5 units (Sargent with CC weapon and flamer)
Troops: 1 Tactical marine squad 5units (1 missile launcher)
Elites: 5 Terminators with storm bolts and PF
Elites: Dreadnought with ML and assault cannon
We normally only play annihilation and he tends to deploy everything together.
His strategy is basically keep running back. I normally use my scout move to deploy the koptas inside cover and then on my turn bring them out so I can shoot at his dread. Because it is armour 12 both on front and sides I rarely manage to do anything and they get destroyed on his first opportunity to shoot at them.
Then he just keeps shooting with terminators and the missile launcher while moving backwards if I get in assault range. The problem I have is with my mobs footslooging I either deploy behind cover and takes ages to get to him (yesterday didn't managed to do that before turn five) or deploy close as possible but risk loosing one unit of boyz for being shoot at and reduced to less than half of their strength. So what am I doing wrong and what I can do to improve.
Please don't answer just saying a need different units. I am aware of that but still hadn't time to assemble my battleforce and my lootas to give it a bit more of flavour.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/20 13:41:38
Subject: Need help killing some ummies with orks
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
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His list is illegal since he only has one troops choice. He needs another tactical squad or a scout squad. If you're okay with it then that doesn't really matter though.
You need speed if he keeps moving back. Try getting a trukk or two for smaller squads of boyz to ride in, some bikers, or a unit of killa kans. The bikers or trukkboyz can get the charge on him early, and tie his units up until the rest of your army can get there. Killa kans would be very hard for him to deal with, since he doesn't have much anti armor.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/20 13:44:48
Subject: Need help killing some ummies with orks
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Smokin' Skorcha Driver
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Brother SRM wrote:His list is illegal since he only has one troops choice. He needs another tactical squad or a scout squad. If you're okay with it then that doesn't really matter though.
Yes I am aware of that I already have bought some tactical squads on eBay but I haven't had the opportunity to undercoat them given the rainy days. But I believe he can take units of 5SM right? The only problem is having the upgraded weapons?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/20 13:45:32
Subject: Need help killing some ummies with orks
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
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Righto. A 5 man squad can only upgrade the sergeant. He is combat squadding his tactical Marines into two sub-squads, which while legal, doesn't take up two troops choices on the FOC.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/20 14:33:47
Subject: Need help killing some ummies with orks
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Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta
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slugga/choppa nobz are nto good. you don't get to do any wound allocation which is hat makes them good. upgrade 1 to big choppa, if you have any buits convert one to a kombi rokkit one to kombi flamer, add a bosspole to one and a waaagh banner to another. or perhaps a cybork upgrade. also it'd help to get a pk or 2 in there to crunch the marines.
if you don't have acess to the bits to do this or don't want to do any additions of your own I'd suggest scrapign the nobz altodgether and adding in your 3rd deffcopta from the aobr box and itehr throw on buzz saws to the 3 or big bioms. as options or even better if you have the models more boys with the left over points
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/20 14:55:18
Subject: Re:Need help killing some ummies with orks
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Hellish Haemonculus
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Never underestimate the power of intelligent deployment. Look at your terrain and use it to your advantage. If you are an assault-y army (like orks) then there are some obvious tactics (such as moving through cover, or using the terrain to obscure yourself completely) that you should use. The cover suggestion is a must-have, I think, for orks. In addition, pay attention to what they are planning to do. Backing your opponent up to the point that the terrain hinders them is always a possibility. Finally, don't be afraid to run in the shooting phase in order to close with an opponent. You won't get an assault that turn, but you'll get closer than you would have otherwise.
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