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Made in au
Death-Dealing Devastator





adelaide, australia

They are always harping on about 'their IP' when what does this remind you of one of their rather stoic releases in the 40k scene...?

Was watching Terminator 4 this arvo and noticed this... sorry if it's been said already... the first 10 seconds has all you need to see...




Can you say 'Dreadknight'? It's uncanny how similar it looks to the T4 clanker... what a crock!


 
   
Made in si
Foxy Wildborne







Wow, that movie looks terrible. Even one of the actors seemed to have fallen asleep in the truck during the chase scene.

But yeah, the robot is a dead ringer.

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Made in au
Death-Dealing Devastator





adelaide, australia

haha it's worth it for ah-nold!


 
   
Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut





I dunno, big mecha robots all kind of look the same anyway. I personally think the Dread Knight is more of a rip off of the APUs from Matrix.



But that was kind of a rip off of the Power Loader from Aliens...



Especially when you see the concept art...

   
Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut





Florida

Speaking of IP issues ...

http://news.yahoo.com/stormtrooper-helmet-designer-wins-uk-copyright-case-034116741.html

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Mighty Gouge-Horn






I dont see a dreadknight when I look at that

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Made in gb
Focused Fire Warrior




Nottingham

Or even the walkers from Avatar.

I think when it comes to mech walkers they are all quite similar, especially human designed bipedal ones.

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Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight






I can't say that the mech shown in Terminator:Salvation looks much like the dreadknight.

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Made in de
Umber Guard





"There are no new ideas"

The Dreadknight concept is a pretty basic one for a robotic suit and not really unique. As others have said we´ve seen similar ones in Avatar, Aliens, Matrix and so on allready.

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Made in us
Infiltrating Broodlord







Honestly though it has reached the point that you can't be taken seriously as a Sci-Fi company or convention unless you've been sued by Lucas.

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Made in gb
Lord Commander in a Plush Chair





Beijing

I think the Dreadknight looks like a lot of things. The idea of a person wearing an exosuit is actually becoming a reality from a few articles I've seen on research technology of the last couple of years.
   
Made in at
Mighty Kithkar





THIS IS JUST IN!
GamesWorkshop reported to shamelessly rip off works of fiction and reality!
As our sources suggest, most of GamesWorkshop Inc. Plc. HOBBY(TM)'s IP is actually stolen.
In other news: Dogs reported to have four legs.
   
Made in nl
Black Templar Recruit Undergoing Surgeries






pfff...warhammer 40k is the backbone of thousands of sci-fi story's etc. its a dead end if you compare every thing to something from games-workshop,its all the same...

T.


 
   
Made in gb
Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle





Oxfordshire UK

All of GW's sci-Fi stuff is to some extent stolen. The early background of 40k, with the stories of the primarchs and the Emperors chosen son turning against him, is almost exactly like the story of Satan turning against God.

All of the Primarchs are named after either Writers/Poets ( Lion 'El Johnson) or Angels (Abbadon).

As has been noted earlier, in this day and age, there are no new ideas.......


 
   
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer






Somewhere in south-central England.

gr1m_dan wrote:Or even the walkers from Avatar.

I think when it comes to mech walkers they are all quite similar, especially human designed bipedal ones.


This one time at school I was set an art project to design a human bipedal walker.

I wanted to get away from the hackneyed traditional look, so I gave it a long streamlined body with propellors at the back. Then I replaced the torso, head and arms with an armoured superstructure with a tower and gun turrets and cranes.

I got A+ for my marks!


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Noble of the Alter Kindred




United Kingdom

Why do they always shout "Hang on!" every 5 mins in action movies.

Is it to cut down on the amount/all expletives?

 
   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut






New Orleans, LA

GW stole the idea for tyrranids and IG from Starship troopers.

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Made in gb
Basecoated Black





Rivelin Valley, United Kingdom

The art of getting away without being sued by the owners of the copyrighted material that you were "inspired by" seems to be getting harder these days.

I suppose there must be a tipping point in each case where you can cross over into grounds for a lawsuit, but spotting it might be tough.

I wonder if in the past there was a clear need to prove that something was lifted from the IP to go to court over the whole thing, but based on the way the legal culture seems headed, could we be passing into an age where the argument becomes based on the "spirit" of the IP rather than actual visible theft?

IMHO: I don't find it at all surprising that a company like GW is so brutal with potential IP theft (which, after all is their right) when you consider how much "borrowing" they did themselves on the way to creating the 40k universe you see today.

   
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[DCM]
Moustache-twirling Princeps





Gone-to-ground in the craters of Coventry

Genestealers aren't from Starship Troopers, but more like Alien.

They're all just big insects, with more humanoid appearance.

Didn't a lot of the GW designers come from other industries, like movie props, etc?

How much of Chaos is from H.P.Lovecraft or Michael Moorcock (besides the 8-pointed star - seperate issue).

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Anti-piracy Officer






Somewhere in south-central England.

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Why do they always shout "Hang on!" every 5 mins in action movies.

Is it to cut down on the amount/all expletives?


They are shouting, "Bang on!" to express their approval of the exciting scenes being unfolded at every turn.



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Decrepit Dakkanaut






New Orleans, LA

Eldar are Elves in Space. GW is stealling from Tolkien and Jim Henson (Pigs in Space from the Muppets...).

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Made in au
Nimble Dark Rider




I remember something about a Malekith king of the Dark Elves from marvels Thor and GW just making off with that. But i am sure marvel knew and didnt give a crap.
   
Made in au
Longtime Dakkanaut




Squatting with the squigs

All these facetious replies forget one thing. GW "protects " it's "IP" with lawsuits. Case in point Lammasu, GW doesn't fething own this and never will, but have sued.On what ground, i dunno, if you reproduce a sculpt along traditional lines, you don't own gak.
Games workshop , when it comes to sci-fi you don't own crap.Grimdark = almost every sci-fi novel...burned.
Space warriors = starship trooper...burned
Tyranids = aliens , Go on sue em ,GW sue em!...triple burned
FFS GW feth off, you are so original and all.
   
Made in gb
Noble of the Alter Kindred




United Kingdom

Not quite
They issued a C&D iirc or at least asked them not to sell the Lammasu.
Raging Heroes assented and pulled the head (oo-er missus)

But otherwise, I agree.
The hypocrisy is staggering. What's that saying?
What's yours is mine, and what's mine is mine.

something like that any road.

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Made in au
Longtime Dakkanaut




Squatting with the squigs

C&D is just before a sue. when it come to GW the saying is:

WHat's theres is mine for 5x the price!
   
Made in au
Rifleman Grey Knight Venerable Dreadnought




Realm of Hobby

Actually, the Dreadknight looks like the "Ironmonger" suit in Iron Man 1.

As for IP... stormtroopers anyone?

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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant




Behind you

Actually, the original genestealers were based on the HPL deep ones.

check out RT

 
   
Made in au
Longtime Dakkanaut




Squatting with the squigs

Myabe i'm wrong but i don't remember genestealers in RT.
   
Made in jp
[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer






Somewhere in south-central England.

I remember Genestealers being introduced in Space Hulk (1989).


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Longtime Dakkanaut






Norfolk, VA

kronk wrote:GW stole the idea for tyrranids and IG from Starship troopers.


Are you talking about the movie? IG and Tyranids already existed at that point. Eh, I would still say that GW got the idea of Space Marines from Starship Troopers, the book .

As for Dreadnight inspirations, am I the only one that remembers the Exo Squad cartoon?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106842/

 
   
 
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