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Well...I must say that is a new twist to teaching through fun.

Back in my day, I learned how to die from TB or shooting self in foot while playing Oregon Trail.

http://dvice.com/archives/2011/07/russias-prez-wa.php

While the Chinese love World of Warcraft so much they're using them as punishment in labor camps, Russia's President Dmitry Medvedev wants to make a similar game to teach people about Russian history.


Somebody give this guy a chest-bump and a double high-five. Unlike most Presidents, Medvedev is a young guy. He's in tune with pop culture and "what's in" and "cool" and aims to aggressively use new mediums such as MMORPGs as an educational tool.

Speaking at a gathering of Russia's cultural and science councils, Medvedev said:

"I've checked what our youth are playing with, and most games are pseudo-historical and fantasy-based."
"Take 'World of Warcraft.' ... It's not all about destruction. It has a subtext about developing human civilization."

"We could try to make something similar if it's so popular -- not globally, perhaps, but at the domestic level."



Medvedev's idea comes as Russia prepares to celebrate its 1,150th anniversary of statehood next year.

Using video games to drill historical facts into heads? If we had a WoW knock-off when we were still in high school, maybe we'd have been less apt to cutting class to hang underneath the football field bleachers where the "evil" lurked.

   
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Do we really need another MMORPG on the net? Aren't there already too many? Of course, I lost faith in all MMORPGs after second life.

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wait, what? Σ(・□・;) 
   
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It wouldnt matter if it stayed in the motherland anyways. But in all honesty.....that does sound like a good way to teach children.
   
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I'd totally play it... they could call it the Red Badge of Courage or something. Gorbechev can be an NPC. They should let you control tides of conscripts as well. Lenin could be a boss or a hero depending on your faction. I love it! I totally wish I was in Russian now.
   
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Russian history MMO? If it's made right and free, then hell I'll give it a roll.

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remilia_scarlet wrote:Do we really need another MMORPG on the net? Aren't there already too many? Of course, I lost faith in all MMORPGs after second life.

You really missed the whole point.
It's not "Let's make a Russian themed MMORPG".
It's "Let's use an MMORPG, which the kids seem to love, to teach Russian history".
It's not aimed at you, it's to be a teaching tool.
   
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...If there ever would be a historical mmo, based on real history of a nation, then there would be a huge amount of political incorrect missions.

That is, if like in all good MMO's, you get to kill people

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MadEdric wrote:
remilia_scarlet wrote:Do we really need another MMORPG on the net? Aren't there already too many? Of course, I lost faith in all MMORPGs after second life.

You really missed the whole point.
It's not "Let's make a Russian themed MMORPG".
It's "Let's use an MMORPG, which the kids seem to love, to teach Russian history".
It's not aimed at you, it's to be a teaching tool.


Lol, I guess because I'm russian and all, my english reading is, well, I need to take time, anyways, an MMO is a little much, maybe a computer game, but not an MMO, like when they used mario to teach typing.

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wait, what? Σ(・□・;) 
   
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Blitza da warboy wrote:...If there ever would be a historical mmo, based on real history of a nation, then there would be a huge amount of political incorrect missions.

That is, if like in all good MMO's, you get to kill people


I don't think the cold war history is what you'd consider "kid friendly".

There's a lot of russia's history that isn't kid friendly, but, history is important. I guess I'm just not fond of the idea of MMOs.

captain fantastic wrote: Seems like this thread is all that's left of Remilia Scarlet (the poster).



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remilia_scarlet wrote:
Blitza da warboy wrote:...If there ever would be a historical mmo, based on real history of a nation, then there would be a huge amount of political incorrect missions.

That is, if like in all good MMO's, you get to kill people


I don't think the cold war history is what you'd consider "kid friendly".

There's a lot of russia's history that isn't kid friendly, but, history is important. I guess I'm just not fond of the idea of MMOs.


Most of human history isn't kid friendly.

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Ahtman wrote:
remilia_scarlet wrote:
Blitza da warboy wrote:...If there ever would be a historical mmo, based on real history of a nation, then there would be a huge amount of political incorrect missions.

That is, if like in all good MMO's, you get to kill people


I don't think the cold war history is what you'd consider "kid friendly".

There's a lot of russia's history that isn't kid friendly, but, history is important. I guess I'm just not fond of the idea of MMOs.


Most of human history isn't kid friendly.


That's true, maybe the game will be like metal gear solid 3.

captain fantastic wrote: Seems like this thread is all that's left of Remilia Scarlet (the poster).



wait, what? Σ(・□・;) 
   
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I don't see an MMORPG teaching real history being too successful.

How fun would would the 'peace' periods be?

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Goddard wrote:I don't see an MMORPG teaching real history being too successful.

How fun would would the 'peace' periods be?


Russia doesn't have 'peace' periods. Actually Europe doesn't have 'peace periods'

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youbedead wrote:
Goddard wrote:I don't see an MMORPG teaching real history being too successful.

How fun would would the 'peace' periods be?


Russia doesn't have 'peace' periods. Actually Europe doesn't have 'peace periods'


No...?

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Goddard wrote:I don't see an MMORPG teaching real history being too successful.

How fun would would the 'peace' periods be?
Especially since a large number of MMO players are female ,and these games wouldn't let you play as one....

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Goddard wrote:
youbedead wrote:
Goddard wrote:I don't see an MMORPG teaching real history being too successful.

How fun would would the 'peace' periods be?


Russia doesn't have 'peace' periods. Actually Europe doesn't have 'peace periods'


No...?

1996-98 was a peaceful time for Europe.

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biccat wrote:
Goddard wrote:
youbedead wrote:
Goddard wrote:I don't see an MMORPG teaching real history being too successful.

How fun would would the 'peace' periods be?


Russia doesn't have 'peace' periods. Actually Europe doesn't have 'peace periods'


No...?

1996-98 was a peaceful time for Europe.


The whole business of not killing each other is a rather recent development


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Melissia wrote:
Goddard wrote:I don't see an MMORPG teaching real history being too successful.

How fun would would the 'peace' periods be?
Especially since a large number of MMO players are female ,and these games wouldn't let you play as one....


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_the_Great

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MagickalMemories wrote:How about making another fist?
One can be, "Da Fist uv Mork" and the second can be, "Da Uvver Fist uv Mork."
Make a third, and it can be, "Da Uvver Uvver Fist uv Mork"
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We probably want to worry about what the Russians call 'history' but otherwise I think this is an awesome idea.

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oh,you know. in a basement...cooking ponies into cupcakes....

they should teach all of school threw video games.

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You mean SpaceChem?


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youbedead wrote:
biccat wrote:
Goddard wrote:
youbedead wrote:
Goddard wrote:I don't see an MMORPG teaching real history being too successful.

How fun would would the 'peace' periods be?


Russia doesn't have 'peace' periods. Actually Europe doesn't have 'peace periods'


No...?

1996-98 was a peaceful time for Europe.


The whole business of not killing each other is a rather recent development


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Melissia wrote:
Goddard wrote:I don't see an MMORPG teaching real history being too successful.

How fun would would the 'peace' periods be?
Especially since a large number of MMO players are female ,and these games wouldn't let you play as one....


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_the_Great
so what, you think there should be a hundred thousand Catherines?

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Melissia wrote:so what, you think there should be a hundred thousand Catherines?


QFT

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I like MMOs, I like history, and Russia is pretty neat.


I'd play this, assuming it doesn't suck.
   
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Melissia wrote:You mean SpaceChem?


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youbedead wrote:
biccat wrote:
Goddard wrote:
youbedead wrote:
Goddard wrote:I don't see an MMORPG teaching real history being too successful.

How fun would would the 'peace' periods be?


Russia doesn't have 'peace' periods. Actually Europe doesn't have 'peace periods'


No...?

1996-98 was a peaceful time for Europe.


The whole business of not killing each other is a rather recent development


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Melissia wrote:
Goddard wrote:I don't see an MMORPG teaching real history being too successful.

How fun would would the 'peace' periods be?
Especially since a large number of MMO players are female ,and these games wouldn't let you play as one....


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_the_Great
so what, you think there should be a hundred thousand Catherines?


Since when are mmo characters unique

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location, location, location
MagickalMemories wrote:How about making another fist?
One can be, "Da Fist uv Mork" and the second can be, "Da Uvver Fist uv Mork."
Make a third, and it can be, "Da Uvver Uvver Fist uv Mork"
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There were a lot of female soldiers in the Red Army. No idea about previous times but I would imagine that there were important women around.

Besides which, most people who play "female" characters are men... from what I understand women hide as male characters so they don't get people pestering them all the time

   
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Anyway, the point I was TRYING to make, was that making a game about parts in history that arn't really exciting would be difficult to say the least.

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Goddard wrote:Anyway, the point I was TRYING to make, was that making a game about parts in history that arn't really exciting would be difficult to say the least.


The thing is there isn't really a boring period in russian history. They're either killing each other, killing someone else, being killed, or making poland vanish.

H.B.M.C. wrote:
"Balance, playtesting - a casual gamer craves not these things!" - Yoda, a casual gamer.
Three things matter in marksmanship -
location, location, location
MagickalMemories wrote:How about making another fist?
One can be, "Da Fist uv Mork" and the second can be, "Da Uvver Fist uv Mork."
Make a third, and it can be, "Da Uvver Uvver Fist uv Mork"
Eric
 
   
 
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