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I can't be doing with 3D. I'd maybe switch it on now and then for novelty value, but by and large I value battery life and not having to lock my face in a certain position in front of the screen more than this.

That said my DS is dying and needs replacing. Was planning on picking up a DSi XL as the stock runs down and gets put on clearance, but in light of the link I'm now pondering if want...

http://www.nintendo.com/corp/nintendo3ds/news/

The 3DS is a major disappointment, IMHO. It seemed like a really great idea, and I was pretty excited when I first heard about it.

But, it appears we aren't quite there in the technology. It's got great novelty factor, but isn't all that useful as a video game device.

I disagee, I like the 3ds, I wish they'd hurry up and update soon, but, I love it all the same. The games are awesome, and the circle pad is cool too.

Are you fed up with your DS?

If not, I wouldn't bother. Everyone I know who got a 3DS was disappointed with it. I was going to get one myself but I have half a dozen games to complete on my DS Lite.

I should mention I work for Sony. This message isn't an attempt at damaging the 3DS.

As said above the 3D is more of a gimmick than anything, unfortunately.

Kilkrazy wrote:I should mention I work for Sony.

How's the new PSP coming along?

Great. The screen is fantastic, really bright and clear, with good contrast and colours.

Some of the first run of games are easy ports from PS2/3, with new features tacked on to justify the new hardware. (Gimmicks, basically.)

Others are very original in the way they use the touch pads, and really use it in the gameplay.

That's good, I'm looking forward to it.

this topic is turning into an advertising campaign

I hate the 3DS, and I've been a devout Nintendo fanboy up until it came out.

Pros- TLOZOOT was redone, and I've heard it isn't horrible. However, I played that game when it came out, and I have fond memories of being four years old discovering the wonders of zelda, so I doubt I'd get much joy out of it.

-Super metroid as downloadable content, I think. Look at my name. Do you think that appeals to me?

- Joystick

Cons- Ugly as butt. Everything about it is ugly, IMO. those buttons at the bottom of the screen? wtf? Those obtrusive and obsene cameras on the back? The shiny, cheap transformer-like plastic?

-Feels delicate and dainty. The DS lite (and DSi) feel very solid, something nintendo has done a good job of in the past.

- Three hundred dollars (as much as a PS3)

- Poor 3D. We're still not totally there on the commercial market. 3D TVs aren't doing very well for obvious reasons, and the 3DS is no exception. 3D is a gimmick.

You couldn't pay me to buy one. I'll wait until they make a 'lite' version. One that isn't so ugly.

Kilkrazy wrote:Are you fed up with your DS?

If not, I wouldn't bother. Everyone I know who got a 3DS was disappointed with it. I was going to get one myself but I have half a dozen games to complete on my DS Lite.

I should mention I work for Sony. This message isn't an attempt at damaging the 3DS.

As said above the 3D is more of a gimmick than anything, unfortunately.

Both the DS and the PSP are worthless. They both have inferior graphics, and neither one has full-body motion control without a controller.

The best solution for your portable gaming needs is an Xbox 360 (TM). Have one of your servants carry your Xbox 360 (TM) in a backpack while carrying a flat-screen television with attached Kinect (TM).

The glorious, most-wise company Microsoft (TM) is aware that some customers claim the battery pack necessary to run this equipment is too much for their servant to carry. If you experience this problem, please contact the sales department for inquire about the brand new Microsoft Pack Mule (TM).


In the interest of full disclosure, I should point out that the most-wise Empire of Microsoft (TM) has blessed me with employment.



(The entire above post is parody. I'm not really a Microsoft employee, and I don't suggest you force your servants to carry around that much heavy equipment.)

Grakmar wrote:
Both the DS and the PSP are worthless. They both have inferior graphics, and neither one has full-body motion control without a controller.

The best solution for your portable gaming needs is an Xbox 360 (TM). Have one of your servants carry your Xbox 360 (TM) in a backpack while carrying a flat-screen television with attached Kinect (TM).

The glorious, most-wise company Microsoft (TM) is aware that some customers claim the battery pack necessary to run this equipment is too much for their servant to carry. If you experience this problem, please contact the sales department for inquire about the brand new Microsoft Pack Mule (TM).


In the interest of full disclosure, I should point out that the most-wise Empire of Microsoft (TM) has blessed me with employment.



(The entire above post is parody. I'm not really a Microsoft employee, and I don't suggest you force your servants to carry around that much heavy equipment.)

I see what you did there.

It strikes me that this thread properly belongs in the Video Games forum.

@Kilkrazy
So are you like a British person that's always in Japan or Japanese person that's always in Britain or Japanese-British Person that must work in Japan or a British-Japanese Person that just really likes the weather in Britain? Swedish?

Oops, I so rarely venture into Misc I didn't notice the VG forum, ta Kilkrazy.

Not fed up with my DS, but it's dying. The hinge got damaged and it's not portable any more. A portable DS, with a decent screen, will be cool. Plus will be able to LAN with housemate on Civilization Revolution and Starfox

I'm dying to buy one but will wait for a "lite", "sp" or whatever the name they give to their fixed version.

Battery life and lack of games are the only moot points to the 3DS. The negative points mentioned in this thread can be associated with personal preference and thus must be taken with a grain of salt.

I’m personally waiting for an enhanced version to come out although I might pick up one sooner for Sonic Generations.

Samus_aran115 wrote:- Three hundred dollars (as much as a PS3)

Not any more...

The 3DS is almost just like the Wii. There's like 4 games worth mentioning that are actually good, and the rest lump into 2 categories:
1. Games that completely focus on the gimmick of the system and ignore everything else, like being interesting (ex. Every 'motion focussed' Wii game outside of Wii Sports and the like)
2. Games that shouldn't be on there because they make no attempt to even utilize the gimmick of the system (ex. CoD Black Ops on the Wii. A seventh-generation game playing on a system that barely exceeds the power of a 6th generation system. And you could use the Wii Remote, and not hit gak, or a controller.)

In August the 3DS price is being dropped to $169.99, so there is that.

Mr. Self Destruct wrote:The 3DS is almost just like the Wii. There's like 4 games worth mentioning that are actually good, and the rest lump into 2 categories:
1. Games that completely focus on the gimmick of the system and ignore everything else, like being interesting (ex. Every 'motion focussed' Wii game outside of Wii Sports and the like)
2. Games that shouldn't be on there because they make no attempt to even utilize the gimmick of the system (ex. CoD Black Ops on the Wii. A seventh-generation game playing on a system that barely exceeds the power of a 6th generation system. And you could use the Wii Remote, and not hit gak, or a controller.)

Because, after all, the motion control of the Wii was a gimmick and nothing more...

I mean seriously? What you're whining about equates to complaining that a kinect game uses motion control.

The kinect is a giant gimmick so I would be inclined to agree with Mr. self destruct here.

Mr Self Destruct has missed the mark with his post, specifically the idea that because a console is capable of a certain feature (3D, motion control etc) it must be defined by that feature. Does that mean every PS3 game that does not use the sixaxis motion control does not belong on the PS3?

Every console usually has a suite of features and capabilities. The fact that the PS3’s blue ray and the 3DS’s 3D are usually key advertising points, it doesn’t necessarily mean that these features solely defined the console. Ergo there’s more to the 3DS than just 3D (such as virtual console support for past gen titles).

The 3DS with either be the failure of this generation that will drive Nintendo to rethink what its role in the market is going to be, or it will eventually rebound and prove what it is truly capable of with the new titles coming out in the next six months.

As it is, it is still too early to tell if it is worth it; the price reduction makes it affordable, but what games are there really to play with it?

Mr Self Destruct has missed the mark with his post, specifically the idea that because a console is capable of a certain feature (3D, motion control etc) it must be defined by that feature. Does that mean every PS3 game that does not use the sixaxis motion control does not belong on the PS3?

Every console usually has a suite of features and capabilities. The fact that the PS3’s blue ray and the 3DS’s 3D are usually key advertising points, it doesn’t necessarily mean that these features solely defined the console. Ergo there’s more to the 3DS than just 3D (such as virtual console support for past gen titles).

I think you missed the point of his post.

A console's games shouldn't be defined by the peripheral features of the system, but the Wii falls victim to this at every turn. Instead of actually focusing on making quality games that utilize the system's features in an engaging way, the majority of developers try to cash in solely on the motion control gimmick (or just make crappy ports that really shouldn't exist). The 3DS sort of suffers the same fate (though it is the most powerful handheld around, at least until the Vita comes out).

The Wii is a bad comparison to make here as the Wii is in an entirely separate category itself as far as console gaming is considered.

It’s also early days to say whether devs have missed their mark as far as game design is considered as launch titles for any console usually suck. Considering the success of the previous DS consoles as well as the announced price drop, I don’t see it performing negatively as far as sales is considered.

I also don’t see the 3D affecting the 3DS negatively is any sort of “gimmicky” fashion. The 3D is just an optional visual feature that can be switched off. The 3DS is still basically a DSI with beefier specks.



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I just read more into the price drop. It looks like if you jump into the DS store before Aug 12th you get 10 free Nes and 10 free GBA games. It's interesting that Metroid Fusion is on the list.

NES games
-Super Mario Bros.
-Donkey Kong Jr.
-Balloon Fight
-Ice Climber
-The Legend of Zelda

GBA games
-Yoshi’s Island: Super Mario Advance 3
-Mario Kart: Super Circuit
-Metroid Fusion
-WarioWare Inc.: Mega Microgame$
-Mario vs. Donkey Kong

Kilkrazy wrote:Are you fed up with your DS?

If not, I wouldn't bother. Everyone I know who got a 3DS was disappointed with it. I was going to get one myself but I have half a dozen games to complete on my DS Lite.

I should mention I work for Sony. This message isn't an attempt at damaging the 3DS.

As said above the 3D is more of a gimmick than anything, unfortunately.

For some reason I always thought you were a lawyer.

Cheesecat wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:Are you fed up with your DS?

If not, I wouldn't bother. Everyone I know who got a 3DS was disappointed with it. I was going to get one myself but I have half a dozen games to complete on my DS Lite.

I should mention I work for Sony. This message isn't an attempt at damaging the 3DS.

As said above the 3D is more of a gimmick than anything, unfortunately.

For some reason I always thought you were a lawyer.

Or a talking cat.

Cheesecat wrote:For some reason I always thought you were a lawyer.

KK is all things to all people.

@this thread
>implying videogames as a whole aren't gimmicks

Honestly, every game could come with a hundred dollar bill, and people would complain about how it was folded.

remilia_scarlet wrote:@this thread
>implying videogames as a whole aren't gimmicks

This isn't 4chan, and if you want to recreate 4chan at least do it right and make it green.

If you think all games are gimmicks, I think you misunderstand what a gimmick is.