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Okay, so the thunderhawk and its transport version have really thick ceramite plating to protect them from burning up when entering a planet's atmosphere. This makes them hard to damage with heat weapons like meltas and there is a rule for it in the game. Landraiders and rhinos don't have this extra protection so what happens when the thunderhawk transporter carries these vehicles through an atmosphere, shouldn't they burn up a bit, lose some of their systems?

It's Warhammer 40k...

That said I would say they probably have a protective plate for entry that breaks away before they reach the ground.

Or the Thunderhawk descends in such a fashion that it shields the vehicle payload.

Well we know from the "exceptionally well written" BA codex that the BA only have 3 thunderhawk transporters for their entire chapters contingent of vehicles. I have taken this to mean that the BA must deploy their vehicles by pushing them out of the strike cruisers cargo bay doors and hoping they land in 1 piece, else their is no way in hell they could rapid strike an entire companies vehicles in with all three of these let alone the other 5 or 6 companies that are out on active duty elsewhere in the galaxy. I take this to mean that land raiders and rhinos are very tough and therefore can stand the heat of re-entry.

/sarcasm off.

most strike forces only contain up to 3 LRs or roughly up to6 rhinoes and equivilent vehicles such as predatoers and whirlwinds.they use normal ones to transport squads,cause they carry up to 30,and stormravens to carry an extra squad and dreads.


so a company going to war would be roughly

1-3 LRs each carrying a tac squad in THT
OR
replace 1 land rider with 2 rhinoes,razorbacks,WW,Vindicators or preds,each in THT
3 tac squads in THG1
2 assault squad and dev squad in THG2
dev squad in SRG with dread.

this is a full company plus a mega armoured force of LRs,SRs,THs and rhino variants

Mini void shield?

Ablative burn-away heat shielding, probably.

Ugly Green Trog wrote:Well we know from the "exceptionally well written" BA codex that the BA only have 3 thunderhawk transporters for their entire chapters contingent of vehicles. I have taken this to mean that the BA must deploy their vehicles by pushing them out of the strike cruisers cargo bay doors and hoping they land in 1 piece, else their is no way in hell they could rapid strike an entire companies vehicles in with all three of these let alone the other 5 or 6 companies that are out on active duty elsewhere in the galaxy. I take this to mean that land raiders and rhinos are very tough and therefore can stand the heat of re-entry.

/sarcasm off.

The incredible thing about Thunderhawks is that they can take off again....

Don't have to drop your armour all in one go, y'know.

Henners91 wrote:The incredible thing about Thunderhawks is that they can take off again....

Don't have to drop your armour all in one go, y'know.

Not if you're going for rapid deployment, and the key to a surprise assault or shock attack is rapid deployment, to field your entire fighting force within the space of a short period of time, fast enough so that your enemy has not the time nor chance to maneuver a proper defense force to fully repel you.

Bongfu wrote:It's Warhammer 40k...

That said I would say they probably have a protective plate for entry that breaks away before they reach the ground.

That seems to be the case for the Space Marine Landing Craft from Epic though nothing similar seems to exist for the th transporter.


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Spetulhu wrote:Or the Thunderhawk descends in such a fashion that it shields the vehicle payload.

It has a fat head so maybe that is wide enough to protect its payload, I'm not sure how atmospheric entry works in any case.


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Ugly Green Trog wrote:Well we know from the "exceptionally well written" BA codex that the BA only have 3 thunderhawk transporters for their entire chapters contingent of vehicles. I have taken this to mean that the BA must deploy their vehicles by pushing them out of the strike cruisers cargo bay doors and hoping they land in 1 piece, else their is no way in hell they could rapid strike an entire companies vehicles in with all three of these let alone the other 5 or 6 companies that are out on active duty elsewhere in the galaxy. I take this to mean that land raiders and rhinos are very tough and therefore can stand the heat of re-entry.

/sarcasm off.

I thought most BA tanks could fly so transports wouldn't be needed.

cadbren wrote:I thought most BA tanks could fly so transports wouldn't be needed.

false.only land raiders can deep strike,to make up for not being fast.but they don't fly,they are dropped from THTs

LumenPraebeo wrote:

Henners91 wrote:The incredible thing about Thunderhawks is that they can take off again....

Don't have to drop your armour all in one go, y'know.

Not if you're going for rapid deployment, and the key to a surprise assault or shock attack is rapid deployment, to field your entire fighting force within the space of a short period of time, fast enough so that your enemy has not the time nor chance to maneuver a proper defense force to fully repel you.

You know what else you can do for rapid deployment, surprise assaults, or shock attacks?

Drop Pods.

Most Astartes strike forces won't involve armoured elements. It's seemingly only when something prevents drop pod assaults or teleportation locks that the armoured vehicles are broken out.

And even then, if armoured elements are involved--it's likely that there might be a single Land Raider(which incidentally is what a Thunderhawk Transporter can carry. Just one), but it's far far more likely that Razorbacks, Predators, and Rhinos will be involved.

The vehicles could have a belly plat positioned underneath them, that would shield the vehicle and when they land they role off the plat.

Like this.

<image of cargo plane removed>

They don't. You can see how the Thunderhawk Transporter carries them in.

It might simply be that they make a very leisurely descent to try to offset the friction of reentry.

no such thing.re entry involves a extremely calculated trajectory and a minimum speed.if you fail to meet these then you wwould be obliterated.even with these its a lot more than a bumpy ride,more like trying to drive a hexagon wheeled car along an uphill slope

I'm well aware of what reentry involves, but what you might be missing is that there are ways to offset the turbulence and create a trajectory that would allow the Thunderhawk to power through whilst shielding the Rhinos and Land Raiders they carry.

Why was my image removed?

Did you use the Dakka image posting thing?

coolyo294 wrote:Did you use the Dakka image posting thing?

yes.

Mr Nobody wrote:

coolyo294 wrote:Did you use the Dakka image posting thing?

yes.

Non-wargaming images shouldn't be uploaded to the Dakka gallery.

Mr Nobody wrote:

coolyo294 wrote:Did you use the Dakka image posting thing?

yes.

That's why. You can't post non-wargaming related images with Dakka's image posting tool.