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I think the Rat Ogryn would have me distracted too
A friend of mine is making his own space-rats, but he is using a Dark Eldar codex - and his modeling skills aren't quite this impressive. I really like the progress so far, and your GreenStuff skills make me a tad jealous!
Keep plugging away!

I really love your work... many years ago I had a Skaven army.. and they have always had a special place in my heart.... When the DKOK are completed I want to start a Skaven army again... the new models are real nice..although I miss some off the old ones :(

So, what would be the best bet for starting a Skaven army? I was going to get IoB and trade the Elves for the more Skaven...

I thought that too but the clanrats in IaB have their shields moulded onto them so they will never be able to hold the lasguns in both hands.

One fix is to get the IaB box and carve off the left and right arms and use the ENTIRE IG arms, shoulderpad and all, I have seen it done and it looks good, very 40k.

I didn't go that route due to my fluff but it is the cheapest way I can tink of doing them, of course you still need to buy a box of IG and the IaB box but as far as conversion heavy armies go its not too bad.

Of course if you want carapace vets you have to buy a stormvermin box it comes with heaps of extra bits and allows lots of poses.

Plus you may need two IaB boxes in order to get enough Ogryn if you choose to run them

That enough info ?


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Have you thought about using clanrat heads on IG bodies I havn't tried it yet but it might look good? just don't put rat heads on marines it ain't pretty

Rat heads on IG bodies look ok but they just dont give the rat feel. I like the slightly hunched sinister look of the stance the reg clanrats have.

Thanks. I really want to do a 40k Skaven army but I wasn't sure the best route. I may actually skip trying to get IoB and work with just getting a few and converting a few at a time. Thanks again for the info!

they look sweet man keep the pics coming!!!

The VL makes me want to say "We are vermin!" at least until he gets paint haha.

I really want to see those flying fortresses finished.... very cool idea!

Like a vermin... Squeek for the very first time!

Saintspirit wrote:Like a vermin... Squeek for the very first time!

Madonna?!

This project is inspiring me to begin my own Space Skaven army! Keep up the amazing work.

@Tony_nids - I could see it working if beastmen were still in the IG codex but as you can imagine I like the hunched over look as well

@LeBaron - It will cost more but converting Stormvermin and regular clanrats will be easier than the IaB rats and will give you more spare bits to play with. Those IaB rat Ogres are pretty nice though

@bigmeklover - Thanks!

@Red Corsair - I know I am itching to continue work on the vehicles as well but I know if I can hold off for my friends's Hirst molds I will get a more consistent look over the entire army than if I model each one separately , Have patience the pics will come!

@Saintspirit - I don't know what to say...really, I have no idea how to respond

@Bear LaMorte - I guess ?

@Mr.Malevolent - Thanks a lot, If you do start a 40skaven army I would love to see pics and feel free to ask me or the other 40skaven modellers on Dakka any questions you have. Oh and welcome to Dakka!


I have done some work on the Stormvermin today ( between Sabre Legion terminators) but a small mishap with the cable for my digital camera means it will be a little while before I can post pics.

BTW how long do you think it would take for a usb plug that was dropped in a glass of water to dry enough to plug it into a PC...just wondering of course

Cheers

BLACKHAND

I put my phone through the washing machine and it was fine after aprox 24 hours in the airing cupboard

BLACKHAND wrote:@the good green - Its's creepy, after seeing the pic I didn't like the angle the ripper gun was on so I cut it off and lopped a section off the arm. The gun is now attached about 3mm lower on the arm than it was...exactly what you suggested (queue x-files theme)

BLACKHAND

I can see everything-MUAWhahahAHAHAHHHAHAHhahHAHHAhAHAHhAHAHA...cough

Congrats on the crazy amount of hits. I can see why though, Skaven and 40K... best of both worlds
.... if you're not counting orks of course

Thanks Weety, the cable is in the cupboard already but I figure I'll wait a day or so, I really couldn't bear to lose either the PC or the Camera...not only cause the camera is my wife's and she would beat me down if I wrecked it

BLACKHAND wrote:
@Saintspirit - I don't know what to say...really, I have no idea how to respond

@Bear LaMorte - I guess ?

Bear was right. Just a small parody.

I know I just had nothing humorous to say in response

Now that I have had time to think though I should have gone with something about how much madonna's front teeth resemble the front teeth of a rodent, Dang!

Well a fairly underwhelming update today I'm afraid, I have been a little busy with my Sabre Legion terminators (sorry!)
I did take time to glue up a few Stormvermin ready for paint.



Unfortunately I have run out of Chaos Black so I will be stuck with converting for the next few weeks, not so bad as I have a lot of it to do!


Cheers

BLACKHAND

Power to anyone attempting 40k Skaven nice work Blackhand! I need to get my hands on those new rat ogres from IoB

Well I bit the bullet, I started painting the VerminLord.

I have gone with Denheb stone and shadow grey with a white highlight, trying for a dead flesh look....well the pics say it for themselves.









This is my first try at wetblending in a LONG time, lately I've been pretty lazy with block colours and washes and I have a lot more work to do before I am finished with this guy.

What I'm most happy with is how my incredibly lame lightbox made the model look,for everyone who wants to see the World's Worst Lightbox TM here it is,



Oh and thanks to Vent for the link to the awesome background jpg, I will have to print out a nicer version at work, if you want to try them out the address is here

http://corvusminiatures.blogspot.com/2010/04/cloud-backdrops-for-your-miniature.html

C&C welcome

Cheers

BLACKHAND

Awesome. I love how the rich warm red contrasts nicely to the icy white.

Uhhhh......wheres......hes missing............no arm.

@Munch munch - Thanks munch, I wasn't sure it would be the right colour but i wanted to tie him to the other Skaven with the red cloth and it came out all right! I can't believe how true the red is in the pic when I used the "lightbox", I am going to have to go back and take some pics of the Warp Seers to show them off a bit better.

@Whalemusic - The hand and Glaive are being painted separately cause its a hell of a lot easier, I also havn't decided on a clear bead or a chunk of Warpstone for the tip of the glaive, I just figured I had a big job ahead of me with the painting so I had better get started.

I think he looks terrifying. If I was attacked by that I would say "screw the glory of the emperor I need new underwear, AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH RRRUUN!!"

However I think he looks more albino than dead at the mo - the basic look is good though - really going to stand out

Albino could work though, give him those little nasty beady red eyes that you see some rodents with. Coming thought the skull mask it could look quite cool.

Thanks Weety, I liked the idea of the white rats becoming the Seers, and thus leaders of the skaven, so I figured the foremost expression of the Seers power would be white as well.

What does everyone think of the black legs? the pics don't show it but the tail fades to black as well and I am thinking of doing the same to both hands, thoughts?

In the illustrations the VerminLord is surrounded by smoke which could either be smoke from heat or steam from cold, I went the way of cold which helped inform the colour choice. I kept the legs and tail black to give the idea of frostbitten limbs and I think it would be effective on the hands as well.

Not sure really BH, its seems a bit more chaosy than Skaven to have animated dead flesh, but then I must admit I'm never read up on the fluff for Skaven, it may fit perfectly well. Personally from what I've seen of my friends pet rodents, they clean themselves constantly, might offer a nice change to have a leader who looks more well kept?

If you do go with frostbite, think about how bad it is, 1st, 2nd or 3rd degree in severity they all illicit different looks on the skin. (Yes I have just googled it and Yes now I can't finish eating my breakfast.)

LOL, sorry about the breakfast!

From what I read in the fluff it seems to me that a Verminlord is basically a summoned daemon and so the dead flesh idea isn't so far fetched, at least how I read it anyway

Part of my leaning to painting the hands black is my love of an artist called RK Post

here is an example of his work
http://www.fantasygallery.net/post/tangentz.jpg

both he an artist named Brom often "paint" the skin of their subjects in patterns and designs to create contrast, I feel the hands being black would look quite cool against the white and grey of the main body.

And yeah I was thinking of third degree frostbite leading to gangrene for that sweet blackened flesh look

Edit : Here are a couple of pics by brom as well

http://misconceptionoftheoyster.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/bloodritual1.jpg

http://fantasy.mrugala.net/Brom/Brom%20-%20Femme%20Gazelle.jpg

The second one would be a fantastic daemonette IMO

Ok, I see what you mean. In that case yeah go with the blackened limbs, I would be tempted to get a dark green/purple hue to it though as I think a pure black for all but the extreme tips will not give a natural look.

Good idea I think I still have a really dark blue around somewhere which should complement the shadow grey I used with the dheneb stone , thanks for going above and beyond by viewing blackened, pus filled extremities....oh I'm sorry are you still eating?