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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/14 13:49:28
Subject: Secret Weapon injection molded plastic Tablescape Terrain Kickstarter now live!
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Fixture of Dakka
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misterjustin wrote:
I will be leaving for Adepticon on Wednesday morning -- and I still need to pack! I will have 4 sample tiles, models, and the terrain with me so if you're going to be there...
I don't know where the display will be yet as I'm waiting for confirmation on space.
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We can give you space in our booth, right next to CMON.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/14 13:52:58
Subject: Re:Secret Weapon Tablescapes Plastic Terrain Table - Kickstarter now @ $88K - Urban Theme @ $160K!
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Fixture of Dakka
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Quick question about the urban style. What era will the ruins be? WW2, modern, futuristic, indistinguishable?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/14 13:53:00
Subject: Secret Weapon Tablescapes Plastic Terrain Table - Kickstarter now @ $88K - Urban Theme @ $160K!
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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Just shy of 25% of the way toward the trench theme. Fingers crossed!
Oh and Justin. Maybe offering a slightly higher discount on the accessories than what you normally find on your website in bulk or other online retailers might help. Unless you set the price point based on what you allow other retailers to discount your stuff at so as not to upset them. Just throwing it out there.
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Best Painted (2015 Adepticon 40k Champs)
They Shall Know Fear - Adepticon 40k TT Champion (2012 & 2013) & 40k TT Best Sport (2014), 40k TT Best Tactician (2015 & 2016) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/14 13:53:20
Subject: Secret Weapon Tablescapes Plastic Terrain Table - Kickstarter now @ $88K - Urban Theme @ $160K!
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Phanobi
Canada,Prince Edward Island
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misterjustin wrote:And I'm back - having pretended to sleep for five hours. Ugh.
The temple set will be a bit more generic than Mayan/Egyptian, only so that we don't wind up tied to a specific mythos or style set. The "Ruined Temple" bases I offer now will be a large part of the set -- so we'll figure sharp lines, mosaics, and a more overall Roman feel.
BUT! With the columns, broken columns, and scatter terrain we can take it to a lot of different places. That will allow you to set the theme in the locale of your choice.
Roman is good also. Chances are that a different paintjob will be all I need to get the desired look.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/14 14:32:32
Subject: Re:Secret Weapon Tablescapes Plastic Terrain Table - Kickstarter now @ $88K - Urban Theme @ $160K!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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How about exchanging Ruined Temple with Alien temple to get a bit more variety into your kickstarter sets? It's mostly exchanging straight to curved lines and omitting the Latin text. Plus maybe exchanging Roman columns with something more SciFi.
Ruined temple:
Alien temple.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/14 14:41:33
Subject: Secret Weapon Tablescapes Plastic Terrain Table - Kickstarter now @ $88K - Urban Theme @ $160K!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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@Cyporiean --- you has a booth?
@Kroot -- some combination of Ruined Temple and Alien Temple is also possible, as they have a lot in common.
It's also looking like more and more people want two distinct 8 tile sets -- so that might be a change that addresses both themes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/14 14:46:50
Subject: Secret Weapon Tablescapes Plastic Terrain Table - Kickstarter now @ $88K - Urban Theme @ $160K!
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Fixture of Dakka
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We're booth #23
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/14 15:06:31
Subject: Secret Weapon Tablescapes Plastic Terrain Table - Kickstarter now @ $88K - Urban Theme @ $160K!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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misterjustin wrote:@Kroot -- some combination of Ruined Temple and Alien Temple is also possible, as they have a lot in common.
If done the right way, you could make High Elf, Dark Elf, Eldar, Dark Eldar, Necron, Tau plus maybe Infinity (Aleph) and Sedition War gamers happy, as all those are longing for terrain like that. Just saying.
Imperial troops can play in the scrapyard and trenches.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/14 16:14:58
Subject: Re:Secret Weapon Tablescapes Plastic Terrain Table - Kickstarter now @ $88K - Urban Theme @ $160K!
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Inexperienced VF-1A Valkyrie Brownie
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Looking at the roads set, why would all the tiles have roads on them? You need some tiles that don't have roads to put buildings on. This set is the best example of actually needing 24 tiles. I don't want a table that is just roads....and adding 8 tiles from another set that doesn't match to put buildings on isn't the answer. You need tiles that match the sidewalk/concrete. That way you can place buildings or ruins or even scatter terrain and it still fits in with the roads.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/14 16:26:53
Subject: Secret Weapon Tablescapes Plastic Terrain Table - Kickstarter now @ $88K - Urban Theme @ $160K!
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Fixture of Dakka
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Hmm that ruined temple is getting more tempting, it would work for Arena Rex and could work for Relic Knights as well added scatter will help make it more game specific - like GF9 crystals for RK . I really won't know what to get until near the end.
The Urban tile set will have fairly plain non road tiles that are at the height of the footpaths/sidewalks to allow for building placement.
Creator Secret Weapon about 11 hours ago
@ mark_one -- yes, there will absolutely be tiles to accommodate a building. That isn't shown in the concept art but it will be included.
Creator Secret Weapon about 3 hours ago
Thanks for the comments everyone. The building foundation tiles aren't shown in the concept art as it amounts to telling the 3D designer to create a flat tile at the height of the sidewalks, and then include flat or low detail elements for power conduits, sewer entrances, etc. But if folks need to see something then I'm sure we can make it happen.
Creator Secret Weapon about 1 hour ago
Yes. The concept art doesn't cover all 16 tiles as this is just a starting point for the 3D designer. The streets would include a straight, bend, T, and X.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/14 16:33:10
Subject: Secret Weapon Tablescapes Plastic Terrain Table - Kickstarter now @ $88K - Urban Theme @ $160K!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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What DaveC said
We're working out the number of street vs. non-street tiles right now, but I suspect there are going to be 4-6 foundation tiles, 8 street tiles, and a specialty tile or two -- like the lift gate (#8) or the checkpoint (#5).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/14 16:33:30
Subject: Re:Secret Weapon Tablescapes Plastic Terrain Table - Kickstarter now @ $88K - Urban Theme @ $160K!
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Dakka Veteran
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Salacious Greed wrote:Looking at the roads set, why would all the tiles have roads on them? You need some tiles that don't have roads to put buildings on. This set is the best example of actually needing 24 tiles. I don't want a table that is just roads....and adding 8 tiles from another set that doesn't match to put buildings on isn't the answer. You need tiles that match the sidewalk/concrete. That way you can place buildings or ruins or even scatter terrain and it still fits in with the roads.
If done right, you could make the city tiles connect generic tiles to put the buildings on.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/14 16:49:50
Subject: Secret Weapon Tablescapes Plastic Terrain Table - Kickstarter now @ $88K - Urban Theme @ $160K!
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Lit By the Flames of Prospero
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misterjustin wrote:And I'm back - having pretended to sleep for five hours. Ugh.
The temple set will be a bit more generic than Mayan/Egyptian, only so that we don't wind up tied to a specific mythos or style set. The "Ruined Temple" bases I offer now will be a large part of the set -- so we'll figure sharp lines, mosaics, and a more overall Roman feel.
BUT! With the columns, broken columns, and scatter terrain we can take it to a lot of different places. That will allow you to set the theme in the locale of your choice.
Interesting. It's realy going to be the concept art that will make or break it.
Kroothawk wrote: misterjustin wrote:@Kroot -- some combination of Ruined Temple and Alien Temple is also possible, as they have a lot in common.
If done the right way, you could make High Elf, Dark Elf, Eldar, Dark Eldar, Necron, Tau plus maybe Infinity (Aleph) and Sedition War gamers happy, as all those are longing for terrain like that. Just saying.
You forgot Lizardmen.
BAH! I fight for the glory of Chaos and the Dark prince.
;D
Also the scrap yard is more a Ork thing then imperial.
If I can throw down some Chaos Alters and stuff on the Temple board I will be pretty happy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/14 18:07:55
Subject: Re:Secret Weapon Tablescapes Plastic Terrain Table - Kickstarter now @ $88K - Urban Theme @ $160K!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Las Vegas
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If trenches get the green light, I'll be putting my DKoK quite close to the head of the queue.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/14 21:35:08
Subject: Re:Secret Weapon Tablescapes Plastic Terrain Table - Kickstarter now @ $88K - Urban Theme @ $160K!
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Dakka Veteran
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Think I'll jump in for a mini-wargamer on the assumption that the urban tiles will be unlocked; will probably pull out if this stalls out and doesn't reach that point, but that seems unlikely.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/14 21:50:48
Subject: Secret Weapon Tablescapes Plastic Terrain Table - Kickstarter now @ $88K - Urban Theme @ $160K!
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[DCM]
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Extremely unlikely...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/14 23:21:32
Subject: Secret Weapon Tablescapes Plastic Terrain Table - Kickstarter now @ $88K - Urban Theme @ $160K!
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Dakka Veteran
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It's kind of funny...there's all the extra terrain included in tables. That would have been ideal things to add through stretch goals (eg, covering the halfway point after each funding level).
80k = funded scrap yard
115k = part 1 of fortifications added
150k = part 2 of fortifications added
160k = urban table
200k = blank table
240k = 'doorway' fortifications added
280k = ruined temple
etc..
Sounds like misterjustin has some minor stretches planned out already, but by making it such a great deal at the start, there will probably be complaints about the lack of bigger minor stretches.
BTW, I know the video is clear, but you should make sure to advertise that extra terrain clearly on the front page. It's not mentioned anywhere near as prominently as it should be.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/14 23:30:48
Subject: Secret Weapon Tablescapes Plastic Terrain Table - Kickstarter now @ $88K - Urban Theme @ $160K!
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Fixture of Dakka
Bathing in elitist French expats fumes
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I'm thinking giving us access to a carry-bag could be a nice stretch, I'd sure like to have one to keep all of this goodness tucked away in my apartment. Especially if I move into a smaller condo.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/14 23:32:06
Subject: Secret Weapon Tablescapes Plastic Terrain Table - Kickstarter now @ $88K - Urban Theme @ $160K!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I like that idea!
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DA:70S+G+M+B++I++Pw40k08+D++A++/fWD-R+T(M)DM+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/14 23:32:53
Subject: Secret Weapon Tablescapes Plastic Terrain Table - Kickstarter now @ $88K - Urban Theme @ $160K!
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Fixture of Dakka
Bathing in elitist French expats fumes
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I know, I can have some good ones from time to time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/14 23:33:36
Subject: Secret Weapon Tablescapes Plastic Terrain Table - Kickstarter now @ $88K - Urban Theme @ $160K!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Don't let it go to your head!
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/04/14 23:33:41
DA:70S+G+M+B++I++Pw40k08+D++A++/fWD-R+T(M)DM+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/14 23:42:42
Subject: Secret Weapon Tablescapes Plastic Terrain Table - Kickstarter now @ $88K - Urban Theme @ $160K!
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Pious Warrior Priest
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Get battlefoam to do a bag for it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/14 23:43:36
Subject: Secret Weapon Tablescapes Plastic Terrain Table - Kickstarter now @ $88K - Urban Theme @ $160K!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I'd buy that.
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DA:70S+G+M+B++I++Pw40k08+D++A++/fWD-R+T(M)DM+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/14 23:48:17
Subject: Secret Weapon Tablescapes Plastic Terrain Table - Kickstarter now @ $88K - Urban Theme @ $160K!
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Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings
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You guys should pay more attention, The SW board bag by Battlefoam will be at Adepticon  and added to the optional add-ons of the KS shortly... you're covered!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/14 23:49:53
Subject: Secret Weapon Tablescapes Plastic Terrain Table - Kickstarter now @ $88K - Urban Theme @ $160K!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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MajorTom11 wrote:You guys should pay more attention, The SW board bag by Battlefoam will be at Adepticon  and added to the optional add-ons of the KS shortly... you're covered!
I hadn't heard that, Tom... I've been drinking a lot this weekend... AKA, fishing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/14 23:56:35
Subject: Re:Secret Weapon Tablescapes Plastic Terrain Table - Kickstarter now @ $88K - Urban Theme @ $160K!
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Fixture of Dakka
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Nice and all as a bag is I hope Justin has taken into account that while they boost funding that helps to reach stretch goals they are kind of a false boost if you take $20k in for the bags you have to pay this out again to battle foam and your left with $60k to fund the production of the stretch goal rather than the $80k you need I think as well as the issues around production this is another reason CMoN no longer offer them.
I guess what I'm saying is don't go in to early with the bags.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/14 23:57:55
Subject: Secret Weapon Tablescapes Plastic Terrain Table - Kickstarter now @ $88K - Urban Theme @ $160K!
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Fixture of Dakka
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Yeah, the Battlefoam fees are ridiculous, make sure to budget in some breathing room.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/15 00:04:01
Subject: Secret Weapon Tablescapes Plastic Terrain Table - Kickstarter now @ $88K - Urban Theme @ $160K!
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Fixture of Dakka
Bathing in elitist French expats fumes
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Honestly, any bag would have done the trick. Since those are boards, I'm assuming they'll be rigid enough not to require the heavy duty kevlar (really, BF?) sidings. A cheaper option like their sword bag would be fine.
Or even my old sabol bag, even though I never could understand how they messed up the wheels platform concept so bad.
Oh and please, make it plain. The last thing we'd want are gamers going through customs with bags clearly labelled "Secret Weapon."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/15 00:07:13
Subject: Secret Weapon Tablescapes Plastic Terrain Table - Kickstarter now @ $88K - Urban Theme @ $160K!
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Fixture of Dakka
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Mathieu Raymond wrote:
Oh and please, make it plain. The last thing we'd want are gamers going through customs with bags clearly labelled "Secret Weapon." 
Excellent!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/15 00:10:52
Subject: Secret Weapon Tablescapes Plastic Terrain Table - Kickstarter now @ $88K - Urban Theme @ $160K!
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[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
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Wow, good point  . That would be the wrong things to put on the side of a large bag...
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