Secret Weapon Tablescapes - Kickstarter ended @ $311k

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**decker_cky**

scarletsquig wrote:
I'd imagine a lot of your pledges are currently placeholders who are looking for either urban, field, desert or trench to fund before their pledge will be serious.

Warehouse/trainyard seems to be another them that has some traction.

**misterjustin**

I would love (LOVE!) to do the warehouse/trainyard as it's one I suggested early in the comments and is my personal favorite choice.

It didn't get a lot of traction with focus groups -- but the backers love it. Go figure, right?

I noticed another question about the reinforcements -- they will *NOT* be visible on the finished product. One of the reasons I paid to get us to the first tile is so we could learn the ins-and-outs of making them. There are some problems with this first tile that have already been corrected.

The visible reinforcement struts was a problem created by pulling the tile out of the mold. The factory has fixed that one. We have some "wood grain" on the details that is caused by a file import issue -- also corrected for this first tile and won't happen again.

**spiralingcadaver**

warehouse/trainyard if the aesthetic/time is suitably ambiguous/flexible (late 19th to mid 20th c.) would be awesome-- I'd love playing Malifaux and maybe warmachine (with some slightly modified rules) on that, and many grungier futuristic settings could still work

**decker_cky**

I think even 40k could work in a trainyard set, so long as the players added some futuristic supply trains. Though that probably would work on the scrapyard table with tracks and other free standing stuff as well as on another table. If you want train accessories as an option instead of the current free walls and other terrain, I think that could work very well (on either the scrapyard or the generic terrain).

Honestly though - I think the campaign will have a tough time meeting all the current stretches so I wouldn't worry about adding others at the moment. I'd consider trading the trenches with urban streets, since I think trenches will be a real driver in the campaign, and the alien temple is something that would be very difficult to do without plastic tiles (streets would be doable decently on generic tiles with placed terrain).

**misterjustin**

I am not *currently* planning to add any more major themes -- unless the entire community DEMANDS that I remove one in place of another -- because I want to deliver early on what I've already promised.

BUT! since this is a long-term product line I will absolutely be committed to getting more boards out, and since I want a trainyard table, and other people want a trainyard table....

Yeah, it'll happen.

If we break $400k I will have some stretch-goals to offer that won't break the production schedule and will give us some interesting new options to work with.

**Hulksmash**

I'm pretty much a place holder now but I'll be happy as long as we at least get to the urban terrain. Would prefer to get the trenches but as long as we hit urban I'll be alright

And it's looking pretty good as a start off. Saturdays normally aren't to busy (people are out instead on playing on the internet at work like I am right now

). Looks like we'll meet the initial goal by Sunday so hopefully at least a decent amount of the momentum keeps up.

**fullheadofhair**

Well, here is hoping that people pledge enough to reach the $200k amount. Once the plain ones are unlocked I will pledge and buy enough for 4x8

What is the expected delivery date (nearest months or so) for the plain tiles?

**Lockark**

I just want to say I agree that the trench have been placed to far down the goals IMHO. Right now I put down a placeholder for a 6x4 table of generic tables, or the trenches if we get that far.

I'm interested in the citiy street titles if they end up being a good base to convert a zone mortails board. I'm also interested in in seeing the full concepts for some of the other boards, to see if they will be suitable for me to convert into Endless fantasy boards. A warehouse/Train station board could be AWESOME for that if it has allot of veritable levels.

**Kroothawk**

I would prefer a modern scifi Xeno terrain (human and/or Aliens) over a big squaredance floor.

**Soo'Vah'Cha**

Yup, I concur with Kroothawk, there are not nearly enough xeno-ish terrain in the hobby, just some futuristic streets with walkways, or landing pads, the natural areas could just be a generic texture so you can surface it as desired , I really want a off world colony board, but hate making the streets and such.

**misterjustin**

The trenches are down the list because we have a fair amount of engineering to work out in order to make them work. If the community demands it I'll swap Trench and Ruined Temple, but only if the engineering is approved. We're almost there, but I want to get everything right BEFORE I promise to deliver.

Crazy, right?

Right now I'm really hoping we can hit at least $200k and I've already approved concept art for the two "generic' sets. I'm waiting on a quote from another designer so that this process also doesn't slow the other themes. If all goes well these should deliver at roughly the same time as "Scrap Yard" because they're much simpler, and have a limited number of unique tiles.

**Kroothawk**

Actually, I am most thrilled about the ruined temple in your list (Urban streets after that), as it is the most imaginative inspiring.
And it is an alternative to all the contemporary dirt themed boards (Scrapyard, fields, trench, desert) which sound much less inspiring. I have a nice sand-coloured felt mat for those.

Also, wouldn't the trench theme be perfect for an 8-tile set instead of a full 16-tile set?

**misterjustin**

Urban and Trench are the ones that most require 16 tile sets, actually -- because the roads and trenches would get VERY boring if you had so few options. With 16 unique tiles we can create a LOT of variation.

It's the lack of variation in most tables, especially the commercial tables, that most turned me off as a gamer. Even the nice boards at my LGS are always the same board, with minor terrain changes.

I want OPTIONS!

**BrookM**

GIVE THAT MAN A CIGAR!

**Commander Cain**

Hmm, just had a cunning plan for the ruined temple, so much that I might abandon the idea of getting the urban board. 280k seems so far off though!

**Kroothawk**

... aaand funded!

Plus updates:

Scrap Yard - Tile Renders
Update #6 · Apr 13, 2013

First, an apology for what is about to be three back-to-back updates, but I didn't want to give you all of these images in a single update. That would be madness!

BUT! As we begin to finalize the renders for the "Scrap Yard" tile set I wanted to share what we have so far -- so that you can see just how close we are to having this first complete table, terrain, bases, and all, ready to go!

You might recognize the top left tile - this is the tile we selected to use as our plastic test piece. It had the right combination of raised and flat detail to make a good test. We broke the set into a flat tile (top right); a 10% tile - meaning 10% raised detail (top left); a 25% tile; a 50% tile. But you'll see that the bulk of the tiles that follow fall into the 10% of flat category.

The second set includes two flat, one 10%, and one 20% tile.

This set represents four flat tiles to ensure that you'll have room to place your terrain and move your models.

The last set, which is rendering now, includes low detail and flat tiles... with one notable exception...

This is the junk hill -- it rises 1" from the floor and includes a large flat area on the top for an emplacement or objective.

But of course we're still finalizing these files and you'll have a chance to see the final renders in coming days.

Scrap Yard - Resin Fortifications
Update #7 · Apr 13, 2013

And now it's time for a look at the resin fortifications we've built for the "Scrap Yard" theme. Let me emphasize that these are finished resin terrain elements. I'm using a "rough" set for the photos, but the final "clean" set are in mold boxes and will be in production this month and ready to ship with your pledge.

The fortification elements - sans gate. The full set will include TWO of the endcap pieces and one gate, shown below.

So how big are these things? MASSIVE!

The straight pieces measure approx. 6" long, 2.5" tall, and 1.5" deep. They are cast as solid, durable polyurethane resin with flat bottoms.

Of course the T section makes the straight walls look tiny - but that's its job!

Back-to-back the straight sections can cover a tile -- and we have two different straight section designs so that you have some versatility in your layout.

Two sides of the same straight wall section -- meaning if you want to create a long, straight section of wall you can alternate the two pieces, AND the two sides, to create a better visual landscape!

And then there's the gate....

This is a primed 3D master and not a resin cast - but this will go into molds this month as well. This is a three part model and the gate has a thick pivot point that allows it to swing open and closed. On the right you might notice that there's actually a ladder built into the gate housing so that your models have an excuse for being atop it. And it easily fits a 40mm base!

The gate also fits snugly against any of the wall fortifications, of course, to give you a seamless layout on the table.

Scrap Yard - Beveled Bases
Update #8 · Apr 13, 2013

SO MANY UPDATES! Again, my apologies for the update spam - but I suspect that most of you, especially those on mobile devices, appreciate not having all of these images in one go.

These are made of the same high quality, pressure cast polyurethane resin as our existing base lines -- and these are in molds now and ready to ship with your pledge. The round lip versions (including 80mm and 100mm sizes!) will be in master molds before the end of the month.

The beveled set includes: One 95x120mm base, two 60mm options, a set of five 40mm bases, a set of ten 25mm bases, and a set of three 25x70mm bases.

And now I hope that you can start to see how the vision comes together. You can have a "Scrap Yard" table (and other options as they unlock!), with matching bases, scatter terrain, and fortifications -- creating a unified theme for your army literally from the ground up.

Because THAT is how you theme an army!

**Snrub**

Hey congratulations MisterJustin. It took less then 2 days to fully fund your project.

Question about the bases. Will you be offering other bases kits to match other tile sets?

**scarletsquig**

Extremely quick funding there, this should have no trouble hitting $500k+.

**RiTides**

And now I hope that you can start to see how the vision comes together. You can have a "Scrap Yard" table (and other options as they unlock!), with matching bases, scatter terrain, and fortifications -- creating a unified theme for your army literally from the ground up.

Because THAT is how you theme an army!

And that is also how you make a display board extremely easily

The pics don't show up for me when linked in your post above, Kroot, just FYI.

**AlexHolker**

Kroothawk wrote:
Actually, I am most thrilled about the ruined temple in your list (Urban streets after that), as it is the most imaginative inspiring.
And it is an alternative to all the contemporary dirt themed boards (Scrapyard, fields, trench, desert) which sound much less inspiring. I have a nice sand-coloured felt mat for those.

Does your felt mat have a portable hole sewn into it? If not, I think you're going to have a hard time with that trench system.

For years, I wanted a Sisters of Battle army on marble tile bases so the temple bases would probably have been nice for that, but I agree with Scarletsquig that subtractive terrain is where the modular board has a chance to shine.

**shade1313**

scarletsquig wrote:
Extremely quick funding there, this should have no trouble hitting $500k+.

Fingers crossed. I want a broad selection when I spend even more stupid amounts of cash.

**Azazelx**

That's why I'm not interested in the plain ones (I have a couple of mats) but am Interested in Trenches, when/if it happens.

**MajorTom11**

Big congrats to my friend Justin and a bigger thanks to all you folks who supported his project! Keep on truckin, I may be tempted to get a whole new board on some of those stretches!

**misterjustin**

First, a quick thanks to the INCREDIBLE community here at Dakka -- seriously, you have been amazing!

Second, an additional thank you to the folks that took over trying to keep this thread updated because... OH MY GOD! I AM SUDDENLY SO FREAKING BUSY!

I never imagined, in my wildest dreams, that the project would succeed as quickly as it has. MarjorTom will back me up -- I went into this convinced it had, at best, a 50/50 chance.

I will be leaving for Adepticon on Wednesday morning -- and I still need to pack! I will have 4 sample tiles, models, and the terrain with me so if you're going to be there...

I don't know where the display will be yet as I'm waiting for confirmation on space.

BUT!

All of this means that I won't be as active here for a few days -- but only because typing on my Kindle or iPhone is... painful. I'll be back though and I hope we can celebrate the first stretch-goal together.

And now I shall try to has a sleeps. Ugh.

**plastictrees**

Like some have said, if we hit the ruined temple level I will be in for sure.
The lines between each panel are a bit of a problem for me, silly as that might be and, based on the bases of the same name, I think the temple board might mitigate the panel lines a bit. I'd be in for an industrial/futuristic board for the same reason.

There's nothing I want prior to that though, and I've told myself that I'm not doing any more speculation pledges.

Hope this continues to blow up, seems like a very well thought out product and campaign.

It really feels like a few of these small gaming related companies could team up and really throw the market for a loop. Great time to be a gamer.

**Kroothawk**

AlexHolker wrote:
Does your felt mat have a portable hole sewn into it? If not, I think you're going to have a hard time with that trench system.

My Tau, Eldar and Tyranids don't use trenches, as it is basically an IG thing. If my opponent wants trenches, I have these:

Anyway, I am a backer, just hoping for streets and temples to make it.

**gilljoy**

I'm in, got in as one of the $225 wargamers.

Mister Justin will you be releasing any concept art of the other designs? I'd really like to see the sketches for the Ruined temple, (thats the one I'd like to pick)

**Alpharius**

Updates!

Preview - Urban Streets
Update #10 · Apr 14, 2013 · 15 comments

With "Scrap Yard" successfully funded, and the terrain and bases unveiled, I know that many of you are waiting to hear about the "Urban Streets" theme and see what we have planned. I won't keep you waiting.

The "Urban Streets" theme will include 16 unique tile designs. These will be broken down into three distinct styles:

50% "clean" tiles -- with little or no damage (8 tiles)

25% "damaged" tiles -- with broken asphalt, cracked sidewalks, or otherwise minimal indications of damage

25% "ruined" tiles -- with piles of rubble, and heavily cracked streets

I also hope to offer two separate 8 tile "expansion sets" -- one consisting of the 8 "clean" tiles and one consisting of the 8 "damaged" tiles.

Like all of the 16 tile themed sets "Urban Streets" will also include a set of modular fortifications....

These concrete barriers will be scaled to 2.5" in height (6.35 cm) and are inspired by the West Bank and Northern Ireland walls. Like the "Scrap Yard" set these will include straight, 90*, 45*, T junction, and endcap options, as well as a gate.

While the Secret Weapon store already stocks Jersey Barriers (or K-Rails, if you prefer) in "clean" and "damaged" styles we are also working on new scatter terrain -- including rubble, improvised emplacements, and (not shown) HESCO Barriers.

This theme will work with our existing "Urban Streets" and "Urban Rubble" base themes, but will also include a new, as yet unnamed, "clean" urban theme of bases. Together this gives you the option to mount your army on three distinct base sets and allow different squads to tell different stories!

Of course your pledge goes to cover the cost of the "Urban Streets" Tablescapes Tiles tooling. I am already working with my designers to get the scatter terrain, and fortifications, started and into production.

Thank you for your continued support, and enthusiasm - and here's to the 28 days we have to make the "Urban Streets" tiles a reality!

Justin "misterjustin" McCoy

**Commander Cain**

Nice! Looks like a good mix of broken and clean tiles which I heartily approve of.

I wonder what kind of temple ruins we will be seeing on the board after the urban roads? I am hoping for a Mayan/Egyptian style.

**misterjustin**

And I'm back - having pretended to sleep for five hours. Ugh.

The temple set will be a bit more generic than Mayan/Egyptian, only so that we don't wind up tied to a specific mythos or style set. The "Ruined Temple" bases I offer now will be a large part of the set -- so we'll figure sharp lines, mosaics, and a more overall Roman feel.

BUT! With the columns, broken columns, and scatter terrain we can take it to a lot of different places. That will allow you to set the theme in the locale of your choice.