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Hi, I stumbled upon this game at a place at North Dekalb Mall in Atlanta..

I was wondering how popular Star Trek Attack Wing is in Atlanta and if it will work out and I will have people to play with.

I am not currently involved with any gaming groups but I used to play LOTR trading card game competitively.

I am contemplating buying the starter pack and get rolling. I saw that the first Borg ship will be released in a couple weeks and am pumped about that!

Thanks in advance for any info you can provide.

Cody

Resistance is futile

http://www.startrek.com/article/borg-sphere-expansion

That Borg sphere looks nasty as hell

cody7290 wrote:
Hi, I stumbled upon this game at a place at North Dekalb Mall in Atlanta..

I was wondering how popular Star Trek Attack Wing is in Atlanta and if it will work out and I will have people to play with.

I am not currently involved with any gaming groups but I used to play LOTR trading card game competitively.

I am contemplating buying the starter pack and get rolling. I saw that the first Borg ship will be released in a couple weeks and am pumped about that!

Thanks in advance for any info you can provide.

Cody

Check the wizkids event system website stores can post their OP events up there. If you find OPs you will find players. Welcome to dakka.


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 emperorpenguin wrote:
Resistance is futile

http://www.startrek.com/article/borg-sphere-expansion

That Borg sphere looks nasty as hell

There are some real nasty combos popping up in threads. Though we can all breath a sigh of relief, Andrew Parks rules in the FAQ that the 360 attack from the sphere is NOT a front or rear arc. So no COUNTER ATTACK or spheres contributing to BARRAGE OF FIRE. Also no using torpedoes.

I still don't want to see this thing with Picard and CONDITIONAL SURRENDER.

 Mr. S Baldrick wrote:


I still don't want to see this thing with Picard and CONDITIONAL SURRENDER.

I don't think it can take a captain as it uses the drone system instead, so no Picard and no elite talents.

 DeathwingCrusader wrote:

 Mr. S Baldrick wrote:


I still don't want to see this thing with Picard and CONDITIONAL SURRENDER.

I don't think it can take a captain as it uses the drone system instead, so no Picard and no elite talents.

All the drone tokens do is activate the ASSIMILATION TUBULES upgrade amd the TACTICAL DRONE captain's ability. Unfortunately nothing in the ship's text prevents it from having another captain.


On page 142 of the morbidly obese FAQ Andrew Parks states
"2) Borg ships do not need to be captained by Drones. Drones can be Captains on non-Borg ships."

Personally in think this is a bad decision. I can understand the whole concept of cross faction play, Kirk steals a BoP, Sisko steals a Jem'Hadar ship, but at no time did Species 8472 and the borg fly anything but their own ships.

Also if your venue allows flagships someone could take CONDITIONAL SURRENDER even without a captain that has a talent slot.

These massive ships are opening up all new avenues of abuse.

Hmm, Idk, it might be something Wizkids themselves might address if the OP events all start getting overrun by Picard spheres with overpowered abilities.

Either way, can't wait to get my hands on the borg sphere.

Voyager might be a good ship to pick up too.

borg stole the enterprise in first contact.


But I see lots of options coming with the borg releases, I cannot WAIT! new borg ship each release for next 4 months will have a butt load of new fleets being made.

 PlaguelordHobbyServices wrote:

Voyager might be a good ship to pick up too.

Speaking of which...

http://www.startrek.com/article/first-look-u-s-s-voyager-for-attack-wing

I retract my statement on Voyager.

The only good cards in that bunch are Paris, Chakotay, and Janeway.

I am pleased with Voyager. I loke everything that comes in the set except Torres. Her ability is more fitting for 7 of 9. Torres ia an engineer, I was hoping for something that fixed crits or repaired damage. Everything else seems to fit well with the theme of the show. It would have been nice if Tuvok worked on all attacks but there are soo many ways to throw buckets of dice now that it isn't really necessary.

The biggest mistake to me is that any captain can be on a borg ship. This is a bad idea plain and simple. The whole thing that should keep the borg balanced is that they should have low captain skills and no evade dice. I can really see Picard & Dukat spheres breaking the game, and we haven't even seen the tactical cube yet. I didn't use to be one, but each wave that comes out is pushing me more into the faction pure camp.

I know that the game was play tested with mixing in mind but each faction has been designed with certain strengths and weaknesses in mind. Mixing does a little more than fill in the gaps, it stuffs them with expanding foam. Example a klingon player could pay 6 points for martok, 4 for Drex, 4 for Koloth, and 4 for Negaren =18 total. Or the could pay 7 for Picard & 6 for Dukat =13. A five point savings is huge enough but now they can also have each of their ships do another action. I does get a little boring seeing the same small group of captains flown in every fleet.

One of my venues is switching to faction pure, I am curious to see how it goes.

I don't really see this current release set changing the captain load out. Most of the time its Picard, Dukat, Martok, Donatra, sometimes Kirk. The release of the Koranok has seen a surge of Khans but that only gets the lost upto 6 captains that see regular use. I know a lot of people argue that mixing factions expands the game, but in a way if we see the same captains over and over it really is limiting the game. Janeway may popup from time to time but she is a risk with the auxiliary power token.


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Oh, how do you guys feel about the older resources being allowed in future OPs? Its cool that the things can still be used but it puts newer players at a severe disadvantage. There is always Ebay, but I could see this making the prices for those items go up. In my area we have had a few folks join late (OP5 and 6) after everything was given out and some say they are not starting until the borg are released. I guess if you anyone has extra flagship cards hold onto them they could be worth some $$ in a few months.

Personally, I'm not a huge fan of older resources popping up again but that may be because I'm a fairly new player. I know that's how Wizkids operates but the idea of limited ships/resources irritates me. Fortunately I found some really nice people who are offering to give me some of the participation rewards but even still, I'd rather have a more level playing field, especially when you start heading towards competitions.

just print off the resources.... they are all posted up on line, if the store cant give you extras, make your own...

anything they wont actually sell you, is fair game to make yourself.

resources are not going anywhere though.

Some places/people don't allow proxying. Not that I am having this problem at my local store; heck, we're trying to drum up interest in the game to even get tournaments up and running.

I'm just thinking in general really.

I dont think anyone is banning proxies as it relates to new players getting access to resources,

so while in theory it might be an issue, in practice it never will be. Any group that takes issue with it is likely not a very fun group to play with anyways.

I figure for pick-up games, no one is really going to care about proxies. But how about for things like tournaments? The impression that I usually get is that proxies are not allowed then.

in tournaments I see it accepted 100%, so long as you ONLY proxy things that cannot be bought that everyone got for free at some point.

basically if you cannot buy it, you can proxy it, and last 12 OP's I went too it was fine.

our community has a very "fun first, second, and last" attitude though, we just dont see it being fun for anyone to deny new players the resources, and even with all of us being nice guys who share the extra resources, there just are not enough to go around.

we are also 100% faction pure at every OP, at all 5 locations that are running OP's, so far we have had two tournaments too.

 easysauce wrote:

we are also 100% faction pure at every OP, at all 5 locations that are running OP's, so far we have had two tournaments too.

I've only played a few games with 2 starter sets, so my experience is lacking... but I really hope the 'faction pure' mindset becomes the standard. The reason I prefer STAW to X-Wing is the number of factions, but it's lame when you see the same captains in every ship. The allies shenanigans in 40k is why I became disinterested and eventually stopped playing, so I don't like seeing something similar in STAW.

All that being said, I really like the game. I'm having fun with my Romulans and I have an Apnix and Gal-Gathong in the mail. Unfortunately Valdore's seem to be sold out everywhere. I talked 3 friends into playing and we're all interested in keeping faction purity, so I'm set for fun regardless of what the local stores do.

yeah, thats the nice thing is that the community is still small, so having a quick round table "hey guys whats more fun?"

is very doable,

and now that they have fleshed out the factions a bit more it would be horribly unbalanced to allow mixed factions, as well as uber repetative as everyone would take the same thing basically.

most people seem to have more fun with the faction pure then mega combos.

 easysauce wrote:
yeah, thats the nice thing is that the community is still small, so having a quick round table "hey guys whats more fun?"

is very doable,

and now that they have fleshed out the factions a bit more it would be horribly unbalanced to allow mixed factions, as well as uber repetative as everyone would take the same thing basically.

most people seem to have more fun with the faction pure then mega combos.

This is spot on

Plus the fact that some factions are going to get even more ships from the collective bricks and OP prizes.

The 4 major factions have plenty to choose from. The borg will have 3 ships out by the time the collective starts. As it is the Shere looks like it can do fine on its own. The Kazon seem like they are built for swarm tactics so a 3-4 of the same cheap ship isn't a problem. Like the borg, species 8472 look as though they will be fine in a 2 ship build.

The only factions that are not so well off right now are the Ferengi and Bajorans, but I don't really see anyone lining up to play them in an OP. Bajoran will get a boost in a few months and I am sure we will see another Ferengi ship soon so if anyone is desperate to play them it is only a matter of patience.

The Collective Storyline OP:
http://wizkidsgames.com/thecollective/

Kind of disappointing that everything seems to be Federation-based but I guess they're isn't too much left with the other major factions, is there?

Did anyone else kind of squee when they read Q's dialogue from the TNG episode on that?

I did.

I wonder if this OP is going to focus on cooperation against a shared threat, etc.

On BGG, there's speculation that it might be co-op and the winner would be determined by basically whoever does the most damage.

I wonder if you can be a jerk and take down the other player first...

It might be something like OP4 from the Dominion War, where you getget extra battle points for doing damage to the big cube.

Does anyone have the unit info from the Tholian Web yet?

Quick rules question about the Voyager:

If it already has an Aux token on it, can it still shoot 360, willingly gaining a second Aux token?

Going strictly by the rules, it looks okay to me. The rulebook just says you cannot gain Aux tokens through red maneuvers and cannot take any actions while you have a token. However, the Voyagers 360 shot is not an action.

 Red Viper wrote:
Quick rules question about the Voyager:

If it already has an Aux token on it, can it still shoot 360, willingly gaining a second Aux token?

Going strictly by the rules, it looks okay to me. The rulebook just says you cannot gain Aux tokens through red maneuvers and cannot take any actions while you have a token. However, the Voyagers 360 shot is not an action.

Yes they can, the tokens just keep staking up and no actions until you clear them. I was playing with Voyager last night and at one point I had 3 aux tokens, 1 from Janeway, 1 from shooting 360, and 1 from Kazon photonic charges. Thank goodness for Chekov!!

 Mr. S Baldrick wrote:

 Red Viper wrote:
Quick rules question about the Voyager:

If it already has an Aux token on it, can it still shoot 360, willingly gaining a second Aux token?

Going strictly by the rules, it looks okay to me. The rulebook just says you cannot gain Aux tokens through red maneuvers and cannot take any actions while you have a token. However, the Voyagers 360 shot is not an action.

Yes they can, the tokens just keep staking up and no actions until you clear them. I was playing with Voyager last night and at one point I had 3 aux tokens, 1 from Janeway, 1 from shooting 360, and 1 from Kazon photonic charges. Thank goodness for Chekov!!

Thanks for the answer.

Yeah with Chekov it's really good. I was watching my friends play (voyager and enterpise d vs the 2 cardassian ships) and it came down to the voyager vs one ship (they look the same to me) and the voyager was able to work him with the 360 shot.

Borg annihilated my Romulans. He stayed in the back corner and really beat me up in it. Very easy for him to get out of corners with his straight line moving and 360 shooting. Next time I'm going to approach slower, but still... that Sphere is hard to predict. He had lower PS so he could be really ballsy with his moves.

Yeah I am finding the borg are really nasty. They really don't have a down side. Yes they have no evade, but that can be mitigated by ablative armor and if you cross faction there are plenty of ways to get evade dice. The only thing they really have to fear is the projected stasis field.

borg actually have a lot of draw backs, most factions have abilities that unless you dodge them, you stand a very good chance of being destroyed or usless.(stasis feild EDT, ect)

Im also pretty sure they wont have very high captain skills, if the borgs BEST captain once all expansions are out is higher then a 6, I will be suprised. Unless its locutis OFC lol.

that being said, people need to understand the imporance of soft banks, and starting angles, if they want to beat borg.

They also lack battle stations so far, so they are relying on 50/50 to hit,

They are definetly a solid faction though, no doubt about that.

 easysauce wrote:
borg actually have a lot of draw backs, most factions have abilities that unless you dodge them, you stand a very good chance of being destroyed or usless.(stasis feild EDT, ect)

Im also pretty sure they wont have very high captain skills, if the borgs BEST captain once all expansions are out is higher then a 6, I will be suprised. Unless its locutis OFC lol.

that being said, people need to understand the imporance of soft banks, and starting angles, if they want to beat borg.

They also lack battle stations so far, so they are relying on 50/50 to hit,

They are definetly a solid faction though, no doubt about that.

The Borg, even pure faction, have access to Battle Stations through resources such as Flagship or using Assimilation Tubules to steal Battle Stations people from others, such as Alexanander, Drex, N'Garen, etc. Outside pure faction, merely put Picard or Ducat on a Sphere.