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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/12 22:44:56
Subject: Re:The Others - 7 Sins - Studio McVey and Guillotine Games
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Fixture of Dakka
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New play test image - nothing else to add
If Zombicide Black Plague runs into June this has probably slipped to July or August
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/12 22:57:32
Subject: The Others - 7 Sins - Studio McVey and Guillotine Games
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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The tiles are what? 6" square? 8" square?
The extreme 3-D effect is really distracting. Much worse than the Sedwars tiles.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/12 23:02:50
Subject: The Others - 7 Sins - Studio McVey and Guillotine Games
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Zealous Knight
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Going by a guess at the size of those bases I'd say the tiles are 8-10" square. And yeah it does look chaotic -let's hope this isn't supposed to be the final tile art.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/12 23:05:45
Subject: The Others - 7 Sins - Studio McVey and Guillotine Games
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Using Object Source Lighting
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That table looks way too small to play on.
Looks interesting, pretty clearly a decent amount of stuff to track.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/13 05:13:01
Subject: The Others - 7 Sins - Studio McVey and Guillotine Games
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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Yep.
OTOH, SDE brought in 1.1M and got you 100+ miniatures, part of the money thanks to boardgamers.
If you want high quality miniatures, go buy high quality miniatures. Why bother with plastic when other miniature KS have high quality sculpts *and* cater to miniatures enthusiasts?
The main travesty is that these companies don't pull a GEG and somehow offer the same sculpts in higher quality materials, like Green Eye Games did with Fenris.
With CMON commissioning so many sculpts for their boardgames, it's too bad they don't have a higher quality miniatures-only line based on these sculpts for miniatures painters.
Probably too much money in boardgames.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/13 05:29:41
Subject: The Others - 7 Sins - Studio McVey and Guillotine Games
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I have SDE in hand, and the minis look just fine, pre-assembled. If one wanted, I suppose they could be disassembled, cleaned up, and reassembled. Or even cleaned as-is. They're quite crisp.
Both Kingdom Death : Monster and Journey : Wrath of Demons offered a resin pledge. Arena Rex was all resin; Guildball was all metal. Still waiting to see these ship / finish shipping this year...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/14 19:23:35
Subject: The Others - 7 Sins - Studio McVey and Guillotine Games
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Fixture of Dakka
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Rogland painting service posted the Sloth Controller
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/14 19:30:39
Subject: The Others - 7 Sins - Studio McVey and Guillotine Games
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Sniping Reverend Moira
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ced1106 wrote:
With CMON commissioning so many sculpts for their boardgames, it's too bad they don't have a higher quality miniatures-only line based on these sculpts for miniatures painters.
The painters seem to do pretty well with the plastics for The Others, from what I've seen.
@HWang - I think Guild Ball had a resin option too, no?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/14 19:30:56
Subject: The Others - 7 Sins - Studio McVey and Guillotine Games
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Oooh I like that one
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/14 21:15:07
Subject: The Others - 7 Sins - Studio McVey and Guillotine Games
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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That looks really good. Resin, I assume?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/26 11:59:03
Subject: The Others - 7 Sins - Studio McVey and Guillotine Games
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Any news on this game ?
I realy realy want to get my hands on it !
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/26 13:10:43
Subject: The Others - 7 Sins - Studio McVey and Guillotine Games
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[DCM]
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It will be sometime after ZOMBICIDE BLACK PLAGUE, which is due to launch in early June so... probably no launch here until...August/September, at a guess?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/26 13:33:39
Subject: Re:The Others - 7 Sins - Studio McVey and Guillotine Games
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Been Around the Block
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It's a shame the 7sin and Black Plague kickstarters are so close to the big Warhamer release, as I, like many other can only afford one of these 150-ish $ product.
Maybe by the end of the Zombicide kickstarter we will have pics of the warhammer stuff and choose between the 3 based on pics of contents and prices.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/26 16:25:30
Subject: The Others - 7 Sins - Studio McVey and Guillotine Games
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Warhammer Fantasy 9 will be around for at least 2 years, so you can wait until X-mas, or just grab a mini-rulebook when that comes out. I would pick up the Others - 7 Sins before WFB.
If I had a $150 budget, I'd put $120 toward the Others and $30 toward the mini rulebook. Especially with the rumors swirling on WFB9.
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I'm kinda leaning away from Black Plague, as it seems to duplicate things I already own (and should play more of): Super Dungeon Explore (tactical fantasy) and Zombicide (zombie killing).
The Others, OTOH looks to scratch a new itch with neat monsters.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/26 21:40:19
Subject: The Others - 7 Sins - Studio McVey and Guillotine Games
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Brutal Black Orc
The Empire State
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Alpharius wrote:It will be sometime after ZOMBICIDE BLACK PLAGUE, which is due to launch in early June so... probably no launch here until...August/September, at a guess?
I'm assuming a week to few days prior to gencon. Automatically Appended Next Post: eflix29 wrote:It's a shame the 7sin and Black Plague kickstarters are so close to the big Warhamer release, as I, like many other can only afford one of these 150-ish $ product.
Maybe by the end of the Zombicide kickstarter we will have pics of the warhammer stuff and choose between the 3 based on pics of contents and prices.
Get the game you feel like you will be able to play the most or have opportunity to play and get your money's worth. Nothing worse than buying an expensive game that just sits on the shelf.
More than half my board game collection
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/27 08:48:13
Subject: The Others - 7 Sins - Studio McVey and Guillotine Games
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I'm hoping this will be September or at least August to recoup from Zombicide Black Plague!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/27 12:17:01
Subject: The Others - 7 Sins - Studio McVey and Guillotine Games
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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They must be plannng something special with this one, right? I mean, the minis were sculpted and some of them even production sampled LAST YEAR. Rogland Painting Service's FB and the Monster.0 blog are making me frothing-at-the-mouth for this. I don't want to play it, the boards look weird. But the minis are so siiick and twisted.
I'm wondering how they'll split them up, though. So many unique sculpts. And 7 different Sin families. Those and the cultists and the player models can't all be in the base game, can they? Especially if there are multiples for the cultists and lesser sins. I fear several 50 dollar expansions are coming.
There's no hint about the pledge structure so far, is there?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/27 13:38:49
Subject: Re:The Others - 7 Sins - Studio McVey and Guillotine Games
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Experienced Saurus Scar-Veteran
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CMON has sculpts for a Sedition Wars expansion/ new beginning box as well that they've been sitting on for a year, if not more.
I'm sure both of these games aren't the only things CMON have tucked away in their pipeline ready to unleash upon us all.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/27 17:13:09
Subject: The Others - 7 Sins - Studio McVey and Guillotine Games
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Binabik15 wrote:They must be plannng something special with this one, right? I mean, the minis were sculpted and some of them even production sampled LAST YEAR. Rogland Painting Service's FB and the Monster.0 blog are making me frothing-at-the-mouth for this. I don't want to play it, the boards look weird. But the minis are so siiick and twisted.
I'm wondering how they'll split them up, though. So many unique sculpts. And 7 different Sin families. Those and the cultists and the player models can't all be in the base game, can they? Especially if there are multiples for the cultists and lesser sins. I fear several 50 dollar expansions are coming.
There's no hint about the pledge structure so far, is there?
Sculpting is cheaper than tooling, and cutting 1 tool with a test run is pretty minimal cost, compared to cutting a whole game worth of tools and doing production.
I'm assuming all 7 Sins will be in the box, because that's what the box says on the cover. If it's "Includes 3 Sins out of 7, buy 4 more Sin packs!", that's going to be very disappointing. I'm assuming that the base game will have a relatively small number of Sins to start, but we'll get stretch goals for multiples to pad them out, like Zombicide.
I assume the Others will be structured akin to Blood Rage or Zombicide - a $75-90 base game with a $40-50 expansion and $20 shipping tacked on.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/12 16:00:00
Subject: Re:The Others - 7 Sins - Studio McVey and Guillotine Games
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Fixture of Dakka
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Thought this was an interesting comment given we have seen all the miniatures revealed so far painted up, so there's more we haven't seen for expansions/stretch goals I'd guess.
Rogland Painting Service (RPS)
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Today i got more awsome figures from Mike, Fenrir from Blood Rage and a couple of larger monsters for The Others - 7 Sins
Cheers
R
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/20 17:36:03
Subject: Re:The Others - 7 Sins - Studio McVey and Guillotine Games
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Fixture of Dakka
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Info from the CMoN expo from TGN - KS possibly September but before year end.
http://www.tabletopgamingnews.com/information-about-the-others-from-cmon-expo-2015/
Terror. Corruption. Redemption.
Those are the themes of The Others, the new game from Guillotine Games and Studio McVey. We’ve been seeing some pretty sweet-looking models (one of which we did an unboxing for last year), but now it’s time to get some real information about the game. We had such a chance here at the CMON Expo during The Others panel that just wrapped up.
Eric Lang, the designer of the game, described it at the biggest game he’s worked on. In it, one person plays as the Sin, and the others are hero players who are part of F.A.I.T.H. (the Federal Authority for the Interdiction of Transdimensional Horrors). It’s a sort of pre-apocalypse genre. The end of the world hasn’t happened… yet, and it’s the hero players’ job to make sure it doesn’t happen.
The game will always have 7 hero characters in it, no matter how many players there actually are. They are encouraged to work together to overcome tasks. In fact, if they don’t work together, it’s almost a guarantee that they will fail. The game ends in defeat for them if all 7 heroes die or become fully corrupted. All of the hero’s information is open, anyone can look at it. It’s only the Sin player who knows things that the heroes won’t.
The antagonist miniatures are based on the 7 Deadly Sins. All of those factions play very differently. For example, Pride gets extra dice when fighting against heroes that are separated from the group, while Lust is the opposite, getting bonuses when heroes are grouped together. All of them have various sets of minions and abominations as part of their ghoulish arsenal. As for the heroes, they are assigned to protect the city. The characters fill various archetypes, such as leader, bruiser, fixer, and sniper.
The game uses special customized dice for combat. Both the Sin and the heroes have different ones. For example, the Sin’s dice have symbols that mean attack, defend, corrupt, and critical (along with miss, but just don’t roll those). There’s an exploding dice mechanic as well. So if you roll a critical, it counts as both a hit and adds and extra die to your roll. So there’s the potential for some pretty spectacular things to happen if the rolls go just right (or wrong, depending on what side of the board you’re on).
Helping you keep track of things is the Hero Sheet. There’s one track for your character’s corruption and the one below it for health. There are various ways for them to gain corruption, but one is by choice. A player can choose to have their corruption go up by one. If they do, they’ll get a bonus that’s shown on the health track below. But it’s not just the one bonus, they’ll get each previous bonus on the health track as well. Pretty powerful, but you must be careful because that bonus is based on a character’s health. So as they take damage, the bonus from gaining corruption goes down. And when a character is at maximum corruption and must gain more, it goes straight to their health. Also, Sin players can give out corruption cards. None of them are ever good to have. They can do things such as deal more damage, kill the character, or even turn the hero into a minion of Sin.
When setting up, players pick a Story Board. This is like the scenario for the game. One player is the Mission Leader who chooses how the heroes go about the scenario. Each Story Board has branches that players choose from while advancing through scenario. In this way, there’s extra variety to your games. Also, since the Sin player can pick any Sin to use (and as we’ve mentioned, Sins play very differently from one-another), each Story Board can end up going a variety of different ways during the game.
Like the Hero Boards, there’s the Apocalypse Track for the Sin player. These are related to the Story Board and give various effects for the Sin player, including the amount of dice they get to roll in certain situations, the number of monsters available, and other bonuses and effects the Sin player can use during the game.
The Others uses modular tiles to build the game board. They’re comparable to the Zombicide boards for anyone familiar with how those tiles work. Tiles can provide players with various actions that can be performed while on that board. For example, the City Hall lets the players gain resources, while the Church may help get rid of Corruption.
A Kickstarter campaign for The Others is in the works, with a most-likely launch date being sometime in September. Obviously, Zombicide is rolling right now, and Guillotine is going to give people a bit of a breather in-between that one and The Others, but the plan is to have the campaign running by the end of the year. There will be exclusive content for Kickstarter backers, as is usual for a CMON campaign.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/20 20:16:45
Subject: The Others - 7 Sins - Studio McVey and Guillotine Games
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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But I want it noooooow!
Are they planning to have Blood Rage in people's hands before they start this, or what? In MY hands, too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/20 23:13:53
Subject: Re:The Others - 7 Sins - Studio McVey and Guillotine Games
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Fixture of Dakka
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Here's some pictures of the production miniatures
and a game in play - the artwork looks more final here than the earlier playtest pictures
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/20 23:30:01
Subject: The Others - 7 Sins - Studio McVey and Guillotine Games
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Are there any playtest reviews out?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/20 23:40:18
Subject: The Others - 7 Sins - Studio McVey and Guillotine Games
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Fixture of Dakka
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Not yet I don't think it was open to the public to play (the room they set up in is not the main room for the Expo so it looks like it was invite only). DiceandNames, Watch it Played and Gamewiregirl got to play it with Eric Lang so they might comment on it at some point.
I think it's still in the play test stage so they aren't making it public yet there was an invite on facebook to take part in a private test session at Gencon.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/21 02:36:53
Subject: Re:The Others - 7 Sins - Studio McVey and Guillotine Games
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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The heros still seem lackluster to me, but the details on the sins look good.
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LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/21 02:37:07
Subject: The Others - 7 Sins - Studio McVey and Guillotine Games
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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OK, thanks. I'm curious to hear what actual players think.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/21 09:55:25
Subject: Re:The Others - 7 Sins - Studio McVey and Guillotine Games
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Fixture of Dakka
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Alpha Team production miniatures
Rose's Dashboard
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/21 10:48:07
Subject: The Others - 7 Sins - Studio McVey and Guillotine Games
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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It's really a shame the 'good guys' don't look better,
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/21 14:45:12
Subject: Re:The Others - 7 Sins - Studio McVey and Guillotine Games
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I'd be interested in this one if it were more Lovecraftian horror and less sexually fetishistic. Too many leather daddies, cheesecake heroines, and vagina dentata monsters for my taste.
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