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Marleymoo wrote:
Just wondering, do we know the official colour schemes of the newer hive fleets yet?

For jormungandr, search Phill Kellys tyranids. He made that hive fleet as far as I can tell. Mostly black with yellow. Id guess they will keep that color as offical

I love how they have made Tyranid special characters.

It wouldn't make sense to tie the 'named' Tyranids to specific fleets. That works for individuals not for a true swarm

Do you think, the nids will get a huge new model equal to mortarion, gulliman or magnus?
Something big and powerfull...

I've always liked how they handle 'special characters' in the army. They're just extremely rare and powerful mutations of the blueprint. Aside from the Swarmlord, who's an intentional adaptation/evolution.

Horrah for 4++ 12 wound, T7 Tyrants!

 SirOllox wrote:
Do you think, the nids will get a huge new model equal to mortarion, gulliman or magnus?
Something big and powerfull...

Not this time around probably.. maybe in 2018... I dearly hope at least. A Dominatrix would be ideal.

 SirOllox wrote:
Do you think, the nids will get a huge new model equal to mortarion, gulliman or magnus?
Something big and powerfull...

Not now... this is a book-only release. If they did a LOW-centric 2018 plan then maybe.

I expect they'll get one when the inevitable Tyranid campaign/expansion/'regular curb-stomp by Guilliman' drops either next year or the year after

That's a lot of excellent buffs...Nids will be good.

That confirms a few more rumors. HT +1 T wings deepstrike 4++ neurothropes as HQs

I still think the name "Bio-artefacts" sounds stupid. They really should name it "Specialist Mutations or something"

It's for rule consistency. Not only does it identify that they work the same way as other artifacts but if they need to FAQ/eratta all artifacts they don't have to deal with 'well they are called mutations not artifacts so they are different'.

MechaEmperor7000 wrote:I still think the name "Bio-artefacts" sounds stupid. They really should name it "Specialist Mutations or something"

Agreed

NinthMusketeer wrote:It's for rule consistency. Not only does it identify that they work the same way as other artifacts but if they need to FAQ/eratta all artifacts they don't have to deal with 'well they are called mutations not artifacts so they are different'.

Tau are signature systems. There is no reason "relic" or "artifact" needs to be in the name of something that literally gets dissolved into a gruel and rebirthed over and over again.

 Ghaz wrote:
Codex Tyranid Preview: Commanding your Swarm

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/11/01/codex-tyranids-preview-day-3-commanding-your-swarm-nov-1gw-homepage-post-2/

Sweet thanks for the link

 SirOllox wrote:
Do you think, the nids will get a huge new model equal to mortarion, gulliman or magnus?
Something big and powerfull...

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I highly doubt that - they would have to dig in the fluff to pull an old armorcast/2nd ed nid out

 SirOllox wrote:
Do you think, the nids will get a huge new model equal to mortarion, gulliman or magnus?
Something big and powerfull...

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I highly doubt that - they would have to dig in the fluff to pull an old armorcast/2nd ed nid out

The Trygon is already the size of a Riptide and the Swarmlord is a huge named hero. I think another big centerpiece character would just feel tacked on and get lost in the masses of big monsters Nids already have.

Requizen wrote:
The Trygon is already the size of a Riptide and the Swarmlord is a huge named hero. I think another big centerpiece character would just feel tacked on and get lost in the masses of big monsters Nids already have.

Trygon was originally a Gargantuan so I would be ok with it being in a LoW slot.

 Stevefamine wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:
Codex Tyranid Preview: Commanding your Swarm

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/11/01/codex-tyranids-preview-day-3-commanding-your-swarm-nov-1gw-homepage-post-2/

Sweet thanks for the link

 SirOllox wrote:
Do you think, the nids will get a huge new model equal to mortarion, gulliman or magnus?
Something big and powerfull...

'

I highly doubt that - they would have to dig in the fluff to pull an old armorcast/2nd ed nid out

Not necessarily.

They could reimagine the Norn Queen since it wasn't even mentioned in the last codex 2 editions ago outside of a artifact the Norn Crown it would be a great opportunity to build a super Tyrant to answer the Primarchs.

Maybe GW will surprise us with long rumoured Dominatrix (yeah, I know, right after a plastic Thunderhawk )?

Requizen wrote:
The Trygon is already the size of a Riptide and the Swarmlord is a huge named hero. I think another big centerpiece character would just feel tacked on and get lost in the masses of big monsters Nids already have.

I dunno. People thought the riptide was huge but ir didn't stop them releasing the stormsurge. Then there's wraothknights and Imperial Knights and the Lord Of Skulls.

I don't think a lord of war choice would be unexpected next codex, though really a new small based model would be nice. Like maybe tiny psychic gribblies made from Grey Knight biomatter or a termite type bug with heavy armor made to resist gauss weapons

 Carnikang wrote:
I've always liked how they handle 'special characters' in the army. They're just extremely rare and powerful mutations of the blueprint. Aside from the Swarmlord, who's an intentional adaptation/evolution.

Horrah for 4++ 12 wound, T7 Tyrants!

 SirOllox wrote:
Do you think, the nids will get a huge new model equal to mortarion, gulliman or magnus?
Something big and powerfull...

Not this time around probably.. maybe in 2018... I dearly hope at least. A Dominatrix would be ideal.

Dominatrix? Not asking for small things eh. Just one of their biggest bio titans. Warhound pales in comparison

 SirOllox wrote:
Do you think, the nids will get a huge new model equal to mortarion, gulliman or magnus?
Something big and powerfull...

Tyranid LOW - 'Gulliman Ascendent'. Calling it now

 ChargerIIC wrote:

 SirOllox wrote:
Do you think, the nids will get a huge new model equal to mortarion, gulliman or magnus?
Something big and powerfull...

Tyranid LOW - 'Gulliman Ascendent'. Calling it now

I've got the scoop on the new Infested Celestine model!

tneva82 wrote:

 Carnikang wrote:
I've always liked how they handle 'special characters' in the army. They're just extremely rare and powerful mutations of the blueprint. Aside from the Swarmlord, who's an intentional adaptation/evolution.

Horrah for 4++ 12 wound, T7 Tyrants!

 SirOllox wrote:
Do you think, the nids will get a huge new model equal to mortarion, gulliman or magnus?
Something big and powerfull...

Not this time around probably.. maybe in 2018... I dearly hope at least. A Dominatrix would be ideal.

Dominatrix? Not asking for small things eh. Just one of their biggest bio titans. Warhound pales in comparison

i just want to equip it with massive lash whips and say "My Dominatrix has whipped your unit because they were naughty. Kneel before her"

...pretty much that.

I'd settle for a plastic Heirodule dual kit though.

Not sure how I feel about them limiting the new guns to specific hive fleets. Seems like they are trying to shoe horn play styles to specific fleets, which i guess is fine form a game perspective. BUt from a fluff perspective and evolution standpoint if a certain big gun is available or needed, why wouldn't any hive fleet be able to evolve or biomorph that.

The Hive Tyrant Adaptive Biology seems really good. With the increase toughness and invul save, stacked with that, you can never take more than 1 damage per attack. No more lascannons dropping multi wounds. You now will have to actually wound 12 separate times.

Is dakka Flyrant still going to be a thing or are people going to be running them with the melee loadout still?

Dynas wrote:
Not sure how I feel about them limiting the new guns to specific hive fleets. Seems like they are trying to shoe horn play styles to specific fleets, which i guess is fine form a game perspective. BUt from a fluff perspective and evolution standpoint if a certain big gun is available or needed, why wouldn't any hive fleet be able to evolve or biomorph that.

The Hive Tyrant Adaptive Biology seems really good. With the increase toughness and invul save, stacked with that, you can never take more than 1 damage per attack. No more lascannons dropping multi wounds. You now will have to actually wound 12 separate times.

Is dakka Flyrant still going to be a thing or are people going to be running them with the melee loadout still?

Flyrants can DS now and Devs with BL doubled in shots/went down in points.
Theyll have a place again.

Dynas wrote:
The Hive Tyrant Adaptive Biology seems really good. With the increase toughness and invul save, stacked with that, you can never take more than 1 damage per attack. No more lascannons dropping multi wounds. You now will have to actually wound 12 separate times.

In reality this just means you're forcing your opponent to kill your guy in one round instead of leaving him crippled.

Dynas wrote:
Not sure how I feel about them limiting the new guns to specific hive fleets. Seems like they are trying to shoe horn play styles to specific fleets, which i guess is fine form a game perspective. BUt from a fluff perspective and evolution standpoint if a certain big gun is available or needed, why wouldn't any hive fleet be able to evolve or biomorph that.

The Hive Tyrant Adaptive Biology seems really good. With the increase toughness and invul save, stacked with that, you can never take more than 1 damage per attack. No more lascannons dropping multi wounds. You now will have to actually wound 12 separate times.

Is dakka Flyrant still going to be a thing or are people going to be running them with the melee loadout still?

It is "Reduce the damage of the attack by 1, to a minimun of 1". A Lasscanon shoot doing 6 of damage will do the Tyrant 5 damage, not 1.

 Galas wrote:
I love how they have made Tyranid special characters.

I don't know if it'll get broke somehow, but I'm definitely a fan of the approach as well. Codes should shape up to be equal with the rest at least, which is really all a Tyranid player can ask for at this point. So I'm happy for them at least.

 Galas wrote:

Dynas wrote:
Not sure how I feel about them limiting the new guns to specific hive fleets. Seems like they are trying to shoe horn play styles to specific fleets, which i guess is fine form a game perspective. BUt from a fluff perspective and evolution standpoint if a certain big gun is available or needed, why wouldn't any hive fleet be able to evolve or biomorph that.

The Hive Tyrant Adaptive Biology seems really good. With the increase toughness and invul save, stacked with that, you can never take more than 1 damage per attack. No more lascannons dropping multi wounds. You now will have to actually wound 12 separate times.

Is dakka Flyrant still going to be a thing or are people going to be running them with the melee loadout still?

It is "Reduce the damage of the attack by 1, to a minimun of 1". A Lasscanon shoot doing 6 of damage will do the Tyrant 5 damage, not 1.

correect its the same ability Abberants have in mountain of muscle

Dynas wrote:
The Hive Tyrant Adaptive Biology seems really good. With the increase toughness and invul save, stacked with that, you can never take more than 1 damage per attack. No more lascannons dropping multi wounds. You now will have to actually wound 12 separate times.

Not that good. It's after END of first phase. So alpha striking tyranids becomes more important than ever(sigh). First shooting phase it's T7 4++ W12. If you can get those 12 wounds on first shooting phase neither of bonuses matter.