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Ive spent a while thinking about this and i cant find an answer, Eldar are close due to similar Religious views (Khaine is almost a double of Ares, Vaul is shares a story with Hephaestus, ect) but there are also Egyptian influences en-masse which seem to deter that. The imperium is based off of a Soviet / Third Reich style Hyper-Religious view of things, and is based of Catholicism not Orthodoxy so shares little if not no similarities. Ultramarines are based off of a Greco-Roman Stand point, yet have few Greek references included and too many Roman ones. Tau arent even in question, same with tyranids, orks, nearly 100% of other chapters listed officially, the Inquisition is another catholic practise, the IG so far has no regiments resembling WWI, WWII, Modern or Ancient Greek Armies, and necrons just simply share no likes at all.

Im really baffled at finding anything, if anyone has any similarities that ive missed out, or influences that ive forgotten to look over it would be really appreciated if you could post them here please.



Dakkawolf 07

Blood Angels are the Greeks here.


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Oh, and Necrons are more of an Egyptian rip-off than the Eldar.

Alkasyn wrote:Blood Angels are the Greeks here.

Really? Are they?

Okay, im going to assume (dangerous I know) that the OP is thinking of ancient greek styles etc etc...

In which case, I cant think of one but could make for an nice looking space marine chapter of your own! Or the custodian guard (arn't there 300 personal guard to the Emperor?)!

Check out the Iron Snakes by Dan Abnet - he was certainly thinking Greek Warriors when he wrote about them....... (or watching the excellent 300)

In at least one of the stories they even fight a bit like them with spear and shield!

its cool

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Iron_Snakes

Ultramarines have essentially Roman spirit.
They are the closest thing when it comes to Antic culture.

Presuming the question referes to classical Greece, there aren't many direct analogues, beyond the Iron Snakes and (to a lesser extent) the Ultramarines, whose background is a vaguely classical mish-mash.

Other than that, the Imperium itself draws heavily upon Mediaeval Byzantium, and Warmaster Macharius is very obviously Alexander the Great. The Blood Angels' general style, however, is borrowed from Renaissance Italy, not classical Greece. Likewise, what of the Eldar isn't borrowed from Michael Moorcock is mainly Egyptian, not Greek.

As suggested above, if you want something authentically based in classical/Hellenistic Greece, you'd be better inventing your own Guard regiment or Astartes chapter.

PrometheusZero wrote:Or the custodian guard (arn't there 300 personal guard to the Emperor?)!

The Adeptus Custodes number around 10000, of which 300 are the so-called "Companions", the Emperor's personal bodyguard. They're not space marines though.

The only think I can think of is the Alpha Legion, and that's a small resemblance. They had a democratic council for forming plans, and their symbol was the Hydra. Alpharius' weapon was Roman though.

AlmightyWalrus wrote:The Adeptus Custodes number around 10000, of which 300 are the so-called "Companions", the Emperor's personal bodyguard. They're not space marines though.

The custodian guard aren't space marines?

Do you mean that they arn't part of the legions or that they are not gene-seed warriors?

As a slightly off-topic question resulting from this, are the terms 'Space Marines' and 'Adeptus Astartes' synonymous?

Adeptus Custodes, not custodians. One cleans the halls, one guards them.

Regardless, I would say Ultramarines. They're basically roman supersoldiers IIIIIN SPAAAAAAAAAAAACE.

YEah but Greeks in Spaceeeeee are wanted - so I'd go with the Iron Snakes!

or as suggested make up a Greek style planet and associated PDF/Guard/Astartes.........

Orks.

They have no economy worth mentioning, riot for no reason, and exist everywhere in the known world.

DarknessEternal wrote:Orks.

They have no economy worth mentioning, riot for no reason, and exist everywhere in the known world.

This post wins the thread.

Melissia wrote:Adeptus Custodes, not custodians. One cleans the halls, one guards them.

Regardless, I would say Ultramarines. They're basically roman supersoldiers IIIIIN SPAAAAAAAAAAAACE.

The audio books call the Custondian Guard.

Blood Angels are Greek. Iron Snakes are Spartans too.

KamikazeCanuck wrote:Blood Angels are Greek. Iron Snakes are Spartans too.

Did I miss some significant change in the background? The Blood Angels do still come from a world called Baal and have names like Dante, Raphael and Lorenzo, right?

Orks most closely resemble present-day Greeks.

Derp.

English Assassin wrote:

KamikazeCanuck wrote:Blood Angels are Greek. Iron Snakes are Spartans too.

Did I miss some significant change in the background? The Blood Angels do still come from a world called Baal and have names like Dante, Raphael and Lorenzo, right?

Hmmm......good point.

Blood Angels are basically Transylvania Knights with a hint of Italian.
Greeks and Italians are completely different.
Greeks had shields on all their soldiers.
Romans had ranks of soldiers.
Romans and greeks are completely different.
Only similarities are their gods, and some parts of their government.
Romans do not equal the ancient greeks.

Fluff wise I have no idea

Army list wise:

Coteaz
6x units of 12 crusaders

Model the crusaders as hoplites, and deploy/move as a phalanx. 3+ invul means you don't mind being out of cover, so you can act like a true greek phalanx. Also tough as nails due to the invuln, compared to other T3 troops.

DarknessEternal wrote:Orks.

They have no economy worth mentioning, riot for no reason, and exist everywhere in the known world.

I fell of my chair when i read this. 1+ internets to you sir!

As far as looks go it would be Ultrasmurfs due to the Honour Guard having plumy heads. Your best bet would probably be to knock out your own Chapter and turn em into ancient Greeks.

Well i meant either age, modern, ancient and medieval. I considered Blood angels, but i dont see many references, iron snakes i did forget however, but i dont see what im looking for directly in them.

the BAs are more Roman in their style(Batnipple Sanguinary Guard armor plates anyone?)

Well then I'd have to say the Iron Snakes of Ithaka are the Greeks of the grim dark universe. Spartan though they may be.

Grey Templar wrote:the BAs are more Roman in their style(Batnipple Sanguinary Guard armor plates anyone?)

Sanguinary Guard are based on the stylized Greek imagery of armor, Romans used a very different style.

Roman armor:





Greek Armor:

So many uneducated posters... the fail is strong in this thread.

Well the Iron snakes i had a look at are VERY close, im just curious as to any other possible armies / races which have resemblences.. Ultra's as ive said before are Roman, they use a Gladius as their main close combat weapon and their whole codex is based off of Roman ideals (companies - Cohorts).. Blood angels again, you could find similarities but not any significant ones..

Platuan4th wrote:

Grey Templar wrote:the BAs are more Roman in their style(Batnipple Sanguinary Guard armor plates anyone?)

Sanguinary Guard are based on the stylized Greek imagery of armor, Romans used a very different style.

Roman armor:





Greek Armor:

Stupid me

I meant Greece. Don't know what I was thinking, it was too early to be posting.

dakkawolf wrote:Well i meant either age, modern, ancient and medieval. I considered Blood angels, but i dont see many references, iron snakes i did forget however, but i dont see what im looking for directly in them.

So what *are* you looking for?

If you're looking for some sort of Jason-and-the-Argonauts sort of Chapter, or a Chapter that is something like the movie 300... well... that's pretty much *any* SM Chapter... or the Space Wolves, specifically. Fighting monsters and dragons, finding lost treasures, defeating tens of thousands with 3 guys, you know, that sort of thing...

Other than that... well, SM Power Armor is all fairly standardized, with some minor variation in helmet and power-pack design, their standard troop issues/types are likewise fairly standard and none of them practice democracy in any way, shape or form. I don't think any of them use grox-drawn chariots in battle, not even the White Scars, and only the GKs make standard use of a weapon resembling a spear. Most Marines will prefer the bolter, or the chainsword, depending on the tactical situation of the moment. Against these sorts of weapons or, well, any weapon capable of automatic fire or firing any kind of high-explosive, a phalanx-style infantry formation is a good way to get yourself killed.

Again, I think it comes down to knowing more about what you're specifically looking for so we can maybe figure out a more-suitable suggestion.

FuryTheBerserker wrote:So many uneducated posters... the fail is strong in this thread.

It is, but this is as good a place as any to learn.


The Iron Snakes chapter of Ithaka and presumably The Minotaurs chapter are the only official Greek 40K entities out there .
The muscle cuirass armour people are referring to was adopted by the Romans from the Greeks, as were the horse hair crescent shaped plumes on their helmets. The early Roman Army was based on the Greek Army. The Blood Angels have a vampirish theme to them and the names like Baal and Mephiston are associated with devils in christian writing while their company captains have names similar to Italians living in the late middle ages/renaissance period. The renaissance period was a return to the art and culture of the classical world (not religious obviously) so that is where any classical influence is likely to derive from.