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Burnas can now burn everything even dreadnoughts

 thenewgozoku wrote:
Burnas can now burn everything even dreadnoughts

If they keep their power-weapon mode with the new save-reduction system, I think that would make them a bit more versatile too.

I guess the big shootas will deal 2 damages, that would be nice. But the D6 damage of the lascannon has be wondering, will there be lots of random damages numbers or more fixed ones? Rokkit does 3 damage or D3? 2+D2? :-O

I've all modified my big shootas on trukks for rokkit launchas. I guess big shootas will be as interesting as rokkits now.

 Jambles wrote:

 thenewgozoku wrote:
Burnas can now burn everything even dreadnoughts

If they keep their power-weapon mode with the new save-reduction system, I think that would make them a bit more versatile too.

Maybe, save -1 for troops, d3 wounds against vehicles? They used to get 2D6 AP. We'll see.

I have high hopes for flash gits

 thenewgozoku wrote:
I have high hopes for flash gits

Seems like even our 6+ t-shirt save will be useful now! I can see gitz getting a 4+ or 5+ save...

flash gits? I wanna see how big choppas work! If they have ANY kind of rend it will be a godsend

 davou wrote:
flash gits? I wanna see how big choppas work! If they have ANY kind of rend it will be a godsend

Maybe it'll be similar to Shadow War, and melee weapons that have S + User S will get a base Rend value? (S4 is -1, S5 is -2, etc.)
Hey maybe we'll get a Rend value on choppas that way? I miss the glory days of making Space Marines take 4+ saves against choppa boys

where are you sourcing all this juicy info?!

and come on burna boyz! ive converted loads of orks for awesome burna/kmb and flashgitz conversions and i cant wait to field them! ive never been so Orkcited!

Solar Shock wrote:
where are you sourcing all this juicy info?!

and come on burna boyz! ive converted loads of orks for awesome burna/kmb and flashgitz conversions and i cant wait to field them! ive never been so Orkcited!

It comes from GW itself! https://www.warhammer-community.com/

Now we need the blasts to autohit and even blastajet becomes playable.

 thenewgozoku wrote:
Now we need the blasts to autohit and even blastajet becomes playable.

Yep. Lobbas autohitting heavy 3 would be ok by me.

I'd like to field some burnaboyz more often too, they're among my fav models. I have 10 of them and only used them in a few friendly games with a big mek themed list.

And nobz with big choppas too, extremely cool models that I already use sometimes but with a rend they could be a serious alternative to power klaws.

I'm curious about flash gitz: with the absence of AP their weapons would change drastically. Maybe a D6 rend this time? They can be effective at last.


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 JimOnMars wrote:

 thenewgozoku wrote:
Now we need the blasts to autohit and even blastajet becomes playable.

Yep. Lobbas autohitting heavy 3 would be ok by me.

Why autohitting? They're not flamers, they should hit on a 4+. Heavy 3 is appropriate for replacing small blasts though.

I also spot the lower LD on the Space Marines and LD on the Dreadnaught. I wonder what that will mean for vehicles and our Boyz

 biggie_reg wrote:
I also spot the lower LD on the Space Marines and LD on the Dreadnaught. I wonder what that will mean for vehicles and our Boyz

I'm expecting Boys to have LD5. or 6 depends on how you look at it. Right now just using the SM Sgt's LD Orks are 2 points lower. So I'd expect to be about the same.

I'm really getting excited to see what my Gorkanauts will do next edition.

 Blackie wrote:
I'd like to field some burnaboyz more often too, they're among my fav models. I have 10 of them and only used them in a few friendly games with a big mek themed list.

And nobz with big choppas too, extremely cool models that I already use sometimes but with a rend they could be a serious alternative to power klaws.

I'm curious about flash gitz: with the absence of AP their weapons would change drastically. Maybe a D6 rend this time? They can be effective at last.


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 JimOnMars wrote:

 thenewgozoku wrote:
Now we need the blasts to autohit and even blastajet becomes playable.

Yep. Lobbas autohitting heavy 3 would be ok by me.

Why autohitting? They're not flamers, they should hit on a 4+. Heavy 3 is appropriate for replacing small blasts though.

I'm just used to my lobbas hitting things...even if it wasn't the thing they aimed at. I just hope they don't use straight ballistic skill, which will basically nerf them out of usefulness.

 JimOnMars wrote:

 Blackie wrote:
I'd like to field some burnaboyz more often too, they're among my fav models. I have 10 of them and only used them in a few friendly games with a big mek themed list.

And nobz with big choppas too, extremely cool models that I already use sometimes but with a rend they could be a serious alternative to power klaws.

I'm curious about flash gitz: with the absence of AP their weapons would change drastically. Maybe a D6 rend this time? They can be effective at last.


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 JimOnMars wrote:

 thenewgozoku wrote:
Now we need the blasts to autohit and even blastajet becomes playable.

Yep. Lobbas autohitting heavy 3 would be ok by me.

Why autohitting? They're not flamers, they should hit on a 4+. Heavy 3 is appropriate for replacing small blasts though.

I'm just used to my lobbas hitting things...even if it wasn't the thing they aimed at. I just hope they don't use straight ballistic skill, which will basically nerf them out of usefulness.

Man, between ammo runts and the barrage rules... I don't think I've ever really missed with my lobbas! They're almost TOO easy to hit with right now.

Falling Back is a thing, now. Strategy implications are interesting, no more slamming trukk boys into the gunline to tie them up while the battlewagons catch up. Gotta try to finish off whatever you're attacking on the charge.

The movement post was the least revealing from all the new edition posts

Well it revealed the falling back option, which does really change things. I want them to expand on their "advance" option though, very vague

 biggie_reg wrote:
Well it revealed the falling back option, which does really change things. I want them to expand on their "advance" option though, very vague

Gotta know if we can advance and still charge. I'd say probably not - but maybe we'll get a Waaagh move of some kind back to mitigate it?

I like the part that the close combat dedicated units will be deadly.

They also brought up the Gorkanaut specifically as being able to punch at it's weightclass. But what would it be comparable to? Dreads are much smaller so past them (hopefully), but Imperial Knights are probably a stretch. There are not really any other walkers to compare it with (maybe Wraithknight?) so I'm curious to what they mean.

Gorkanaut's Weightclass should include WraithKnights and Imperial Knights... we can hope.

Fall back will be interesting. You can't shoot or charge the turn you've fallen back. That will mean that your gunline opponent will need multiple units to deal with your 1. Give how relatively cheap our units are, we should have more units on the board than they do. Win for assault, I say.

 Anpu-adom wrote:
Gorkanaut's Weightclass should include WraithKnights and Imperial Knights... we can hope.

Fall back will be interesting. You can't shoot or charge the turn you've fallen back. That will mean that your gunline opponent will need multiple units to deal with your 1. Give how relatively cheap our units are, we should have more units on the board than they do. Win for assault, I say.

This rule is straight out of Age of Sigmar. Makes sense tacticaly. I can see SM's being able to shoot, assault normally.

I disagree with that about (x)orkanaughts.

The stompa should be on par with knights and other titans.

The (X)orkanaught should be the ork landraider... with punching arms and shooty bits. It should be scary and a centerpeice, but not taking bites out of titans for free. The stompa needs to points adjusted down so that its a viable take.

If the Stompa wants to be on par with WKs, one of them needs a large point shift. Stompas are too expensive and WKs are too cheap. They need (and hopefully will) change their point cost.

I think he meant Imperial Knights, not Wraithknights. Stompas should also be better than Imperial Knights as they are much larger.

yah, I meant imperial knights.

the 'naughts aren't meant to be titans or their younger brothers... They're supposed to be orky landraider equivalent type things. Dangerous, kinda slow moving, and with the potential of some hard/choppy units inside. Something you wont see spammed, but is still a threat.

The stompa is mean to be the 'oh crap kill it' capital piece for the ork army.

Not much ado about the psychic phase on our end. I guess we'll be getting that Smite power along with everybody else!

I'm really hoping they keep some of the cooler powers from our current list, Da Jump was always a blast And of course, it'd be great to see weirdboyz getting more powered up by being near other Orks...

As much as I'd like psychic powers to be chosen or at least have some set powers, Orks might be one of the factions where some randomness would be appropriate...

Wraithknight, imperial knight, storm surge and the 'naughts were released at about the same time. There are a lot of adjustments needed to get the info the same class.
I wonder how many people would take 2 morkanauts if they were as efficient as an imperial knight... much less a wraith knight (we all agree that they are too good for the price).


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I like the simplicity of the AoS hero phase. GW twitter burst tau and necron psyched bubbles... no psychic powers for them. I'm sad that they don't seem to have put more heroic abilities in that phase.
Guess this means I'm going to need to start bringing old. Old Zogwart.