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2011/08/28 23:04:33
Subject: Assault Cannon Spam
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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch
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What codex should I go with for an Assault Cannon spam/drop pod-y army?
My guess is Blood Angels with Baal Preds.
Also, please just answer the question. I don't care how "competitive" the army would actually be.
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2011/08/28 23:12:52
Subject: Re:Assault Cannon Spam
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Blood Angels can probably put the most assault cannons on the field, although if you are looking at a drop pod army then maybe space wolves with Logan and terminators as troops dropping in with assault cannons?
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2011/08/28 23:59:41
Subject: Re:Assault Cannon Spam
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The Conquerer
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a Vanilla space marine army with a MOTF as an HQ.
you run 3 HS dreds with assault cannons and DCCWs and 3 units of 10 Terminators with double assault cannons. Dreds can purchase Drop pods with Locator Beacons.
Thats 1960 points. slap some Tactical squads in Drop Pods for Troops and there you go.
2500 point army
MOTF (power weapon) 115 pts
10 man Tac squad (Power Fist, Meltagun, Missile launcher) 205 pts
Drop Pod 35 pts
10 man Tac squad (Meltagun, Missile launcher) 180 pts
Drop Pod (Locator Beacon) 45 pts
Elites
10 Tactical Terminators(2 assault cannons) 460 pts
10 Tactical Terminators(2 assault cannons) 460 pts
9 Tactical Terminators(1 assault cannon) 390 pts
Heavy Support
Dreadnought (assault cannon, heavy Flamer) 160 pts
Drop Pod (Locator beacon) 45 pts
Dreadnought (assault cannon, heavy Flamer) 160 pts
Drop Pod (Locator beacon) 45 pts
Dreadnought (assault cannon, heavy Flamer) 160 pts
Drop Pod (Locator beacon) 45 pts
2505 pts
8 assault cannons and entire army can deep strike.
could actually be a fairly decent army too.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
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2011/08/29 00:09:13
Subject: Assault Cannon Spam
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
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I miss my old Space Wolves codex, where I could take assault cannons on my Wolf Guard Battle Leaders. BS5 assault cannons were a beautiful thing.
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2011/08/29 00:32:36
Subject: Assault Cannon Spam
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Nigel Stillman
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Black templar can take 2 assault cannons in a small terminator squad.
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2011/08/29 00:33:43
Subject: Assault Cannon Spam
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Imperial Guard Landspeeder Pilot
On moon miranda.
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Brother SRM wrote:I miss my old Space Wolves codex, where I could take assault cannons on my Wolf Guard Battle Leaders. BS5 assault cannons were a beautiful thing.
I don't think most players would have an issue if you wanted to use that book instead of the current one 
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2011/08/29 01:28:07
Subject: Assault Cannon Spam
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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch
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Ma55ter_fett wrote:Black templar can take 2 assault cannons in a small terminator squad.
How small?
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2011/08/29 01:40:26
Subject: Re:Assault Cannon Spam
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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5 man,
although they are maxed out at 2 per squad IIRC.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
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2011/08/29 01:53:06
Subject: Assault Cannon Spam
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Black Templars
Elites:
5x Terminators with 2x Assault Cannon and Tank Hunters 255 points.
5x Terminators with 2x Assault Cannon and Tank Hunters 255 points.
5x Terminators with 2x Assault Cannon and Tank Hunters 255 points.
HQ: Marshal in terminator Armor, Sergeant, 3x Terminators with 2x Assault Cannon and Tank Hunters 320 points.
HQ: Marshal in terminator Armor, Sergeant, 3x Terminators with 2x Assault Cannon and Tank Hunters 320 points.
5x Land Raider Crusaders for each of the above: 1325
For 2730, you can put 15 Assault Cannons on the table, with 10 of them at S7 against tanks...
If you drop the crusaders, you still have 10 S7 assault cannons at 1405 points. Not many armies can do that. Perhaps the Dark Angels, but I'm not familiar with their Codex.
Fast Attack:
3x Landspeeders with Assault Cannons: 240
3x Landspeeders with Assault Cannons: 240
3x Landspeeders with Assault Cannons: 240
So, if you add these go the Terminators, that's 19 Assault Cannons at 2125 points, 10 at S7, 9 at S6.
Our Dreadnoughts come with Assault Cannons as default, but you'd have to drop a Tank Hunting Terminator squad sporting 2 AssCannons, and that would be silly.
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2011/08/31 03:54:51
Subject: Assault Cannon Spam
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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch
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Can Deathwing get anything close to assault cannon spam? I doubt they're still viable, but whatever.
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2011/08/31 04:07:11
Subject: Assault Cannon Spam
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
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ZacktheChaosChild wrote:Can Deathwing get anything close to assault cannon spam? I doubt they're still viable, but whatever.
One per Deathwing squad, but they can take Ravenwing Landspeeders with assault cannons or Sammael in his landspeeder.
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2011/08/31 04:41:34
Subject: Re:Assault Cannon Spam
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Perfect Shot Ultramarine Predator Pilot
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BT or SW, hands down. Granted, Assault cannon spam is a little less fun than it was an edition ago...
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2011/08/31 07:01:37
Subject: Re:Assault Cannon Spam
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Ferocious Black Templar Castellan
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Do psycannons count as assault cannons? They're more or less the same.
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2011/08/31 07:12:34
Subject: Re:Assault Cannon Spam
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Shas'o Commanding the Hunter Kadre
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AlmightyWalrus wrote:Do psycannons count as assault cannons? They're more or less the same.
Except they can be come str 7
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2011/08/31 07:19:58
Subject: Re:Assault Cannon Spam
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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AlmightyWalrus wrote:Do psycannons count as assault cannons? They're more or less the same.
Psycannons are Assault cannons with Psybolt ammo as far as the fluff is concerned.
I.E. yes Psycannons = Assault cannons in the fluff
The rules are devastatingly similar as well (Same rate of fire*, same AP, same Range, both have the rending rule.) The only difference is the Strength of the Psycannon is 1 better than an Assault cannon.
*Psycannons can also fire as Assault 2 instead of Heavy 4.
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2011/08/31 08:20:12
Subject: Re:Assault Cannon Spam
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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Grey Templar wrote:a Vanilla space marine army with a MOTF as an HQ.
you run 3 HS dreds with assault cannons and DCCWs and 3 units of 10 Terminators with double assault cannons. Dreds can purchase Drop pods with Locator Beacons.
Thats 1960 points. slap some Tactical squads in Drop Pods for Troops and there you go.
2500 point army
MOTF (power weapon) 115 pts
10 man Tac squad (Power Fist, Meltagun, Missile launcher) 205 pts
Drop Pod 35 pts
10 man Tac squad (Meltagun, Missile launcher) 180 pts
Drop Pod (Locator Beacon) 45 pts
Elites
10 Tactical Terminators(2 assault cannons) 460 pts
10 Tactical Terminators(2 assault cannons) 460 pts
9 Tactical Terminators(1 assault cannon) 390 pts
Heavy Support
Dreadnought (assault cannon, heavy Flamer) 160 pts
Drop Pod (Locator beacon) 45 pts
Dreadnought (assault cannon, heavy Flamer) 160 pts
Drop Pod (Locator beacon) 45 pts
Dreadnought (assault cannon, heavy Flamer) 160 pts
Drop Pod (Locator beacon) 45 pts
2505 pts
8 assault cannons and entire army can deep strike.
could actually be a fairly decent army too.
Improve it by changing to BA.
HQ-
Librarian – 100
Elite –
Tactical Terminators x10 (2 assault cannons) 460 pts
Tactical Terminators x10 (2 assault cannons) 460 pts
Sanguinary Priest x2 -100
Troop –
Assault Marine x10 – PF, MG x2 – 210
Drop Pod
Assault Marine x10 – PF, MG x2 – 210
Drop Pod
Fast –
Baal - 115
Baal - 115
Baal - 115
Heavy –
Dreadnought (assault cannon, heavy Flamer) 125 pts
Drop Pod (Locator beacon) 45 pts
Dreadnought (assault cannon, heavy Flamer) 125 pts
Drop Pod (Locator beacon) 45 pts
Dreadnought (assault cannon, heavy Flamer) 125 pts
Drop Pod (Locator beacon) 45 pts
2395
Everyone can DS, Baals can outflank.
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2011/08/31 12:51:54
Subject: Re:Assault Cannon Spam
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Perfect Shot Dark Angels Predator Pilot
Over the hills and far away.
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A Dark Angels army can get 16 in if done properly, some of them Twinlinked.
HQ
Belial - 130
Sammael w/landspeeder - 205
Elite
Dreadnought w/Assault cannon - 125
Dreadnought w/Assault cannon - 125
Dreadnought w/Assault cannon - 125
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Deathwing w/Assault cannon - 245
Deathwing w/Assault cannon - 245
Deathwing w/Assault cannon - 245
Troops
Deathwing w/Assault cannon - 245
Deathwing w/Assault cannon - 245
Deathwing w/Assault cannon - 245
Deathwing w/Assault cannon - 245
Deathwing w/Assault cannon - 245
Deathwing w/Assault cannon - 245
Fast Attack
Ravenwing support squad w/Assault cannon - 100
Ravenwing support squad w/Assault cannon - 100
Ravenwing support squad w/Assault cannon - 100
Heavy support
Landraider Crusader - 250
Landraider Crusader - 250
Landraider Crusader - 250
Thats as basic as you can get with maximum Assault cannons. The Elites can come down to personal choice, whether you prefer dreads or more termies. All for between 3230 and 3590 pts. If you want to knock some points off then take off 3 of the Deathwing squads.
Sammael w/Landspeeder has a twinlinked Assault cannon.
Landraider Crusaders have twinlinked Assault cannon.
Half of the Deathwing can deepstrike on turn 1.
Whats that other Space Marine armies?? You have a severe case of Assault cannon envy? I should think so too.
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2011/08/31 14:23:26
Subject: Re:Assault Cannon Spam
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Ferocious Black Templar Castellan
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Brother Azul wrote:
Whats that other Space Marine armies?? You have a severe case of Assault cannon envy? I should think so too.
Templars:
HQ slots:
Marshal/Castellan/Reclusiarch/Master of Sanctity in termie armour with termie command squad, 2x Assault Cannons
Marshal/Castellan/Reclusiarch/Master of Sanctity in termie armour with termie command squad, 2x Assault Cannons
Elite slots:
Terminators, 2x Assault Cannons, LRC
Terminators, 2x Assault Cannons, LRC
Terminators, 2x Assault Cannons, LRC
Troops:
Crusader Squad, LRC
Crusader Squad, LRC
Crusader Squad, LRC
Crusader Squad, LRC
Crusader Squad, LRC
Crusader Squad, LRC
Fast:
3x Land Speeder, Assault Cannon
3x Land Speeder, Assault Cannon
3x Land Speeder, Assault Cannon
Heavy:
LRC
LRC
LRC
28 assault cannons. Not envious.
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2011/08/31 14:31:25
Subject: Assault Cannon Spam
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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Gotta be the BTs, as said before. 2 assault cannons per termie squad, and you can fit them in a normal sized game too.
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2011/08/31 14:50:08
Subject: Re:Assault Cannon Spam
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Bounding Black Templar Assault Marine
columbus ohio
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AlmightyWalrus wrote:Brother Azul wrote:
Whats that other Space Marine armies?? You have a severe case of Assault cannon envy? I should think so too.
Templars:
HQ slots:
Marshal/Castellan/Reclusiarch/Master of Sanctity in termie armour with termie command squad, 2x Assault Cannons
Marshal/Castellan/Reclusiarch/Master of Sanctity in termie armour with termie command squad, 2x Assault Cannons
Elite slots:
Terminators, 2x Assault Cannons, LRC
Terminators, 2x Assault Cannons, LRC
Terminators, 2x Assault Cannons, LRC
Troops:
Crusader Squad, LRC
Crusader Squad, LRC
Crusader Squad, LRC
Crusader Squad, LRC
Crusader Squad, LRC
Crusader Squad, LRC
Fast:
3x Land Speeder, Assault Cannon
3x Land Speeder, Assault Cannon
3x Land Speeder, Assault Cannon
Heavy:
LRC
LRC
LRC
28 assault cannons. Not envious.
lol pure win 
i also play black templars and do run a assault cannon spam army. its pretty easy to do.....except finding all those damn assault cannons lol. people guard them like a child so have fun.
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2011/08/31 15:00:44
Subject: Assault Cannon Spam
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Nurgle Chosen Marine on a Palanquin
Dumbarton, Scotland
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OK, ladies.
I'm going to show you all up.
[HQ]
Librarian
[Elites]
10-man Terminator Squad
-2x Assault Cannon
-Land Raider Crusader
10-man Terminator Squad
-2x Assault Cannon
-Land Raider Crusader
10-man Terminator Squad
-2x Assault Cannon
-Land Raider Crusader
[Troops]
5-man Assault Squad
-Meltagun
-Sarge w/ Power Fist
-Razorback w/ TLAC
5-man Assault Squad
-Meltagun
-Sarge w/ Power Fist
-Razorback w/ TLAC
5-man Assault Squad
-Meltagun
-Sarge w/ Power Fist
-Razorback w/ TLAC
5-man Assault Squad
-Meltagun
-Sarge w/ Power Fist
-Razorback w/ TLAC
5-man Assault Squad
-Meltagun
-Sarge w/ Power Fist
-Razorback w/ TLAC
5-man Assault Squad
-Meltagun
-Sarge w/ Power Fist
-Razorback w/ TLAC
[Fast Attack]
Baal Predator
-TLAC
-Heavy Bolter sponsons
Baal Predator
-TLAC
-Heavy Bolter sponsons
Baal Predator
-TLAC
-Heavy Bolter sponsons
[Heavy Support]
Stormraven Gunship
-TLAC
-TLMM
Stormraven Gunship
-TLAC
-TLMM
Stormraven Gunship
-TLAC
-TLMM
4405 points for...
Brace yourself...
THIRTY-SIX ASSAULT CANNONS.
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2011/08/31 15:03:26
Subject: Assault Cannon Spam
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Ferocious Black Templar Castellan
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Cerebrium wrote:OK, ladies.
I'm going to show you all up.
[HQ]
Librarian
[Elites]
10-man Terminator Squad
-2x Assault Cannon
-Land Raider Crusader
10-man Terminator Squad
-2x Assault Cannon
-Land Raider Crusader
10-man Terminator Squad
-2x Assault Cannon
-Land Raider Crusader
[Troops]
5-man Assault Squad
-Meltagun
-Sarge w/ Power Fist
-Razorback w/ TLAC
5-man Assault Squad
-Meltagun
-Sarge w/ Power Fist
-Razorback w/ TLAC
5-man Assault Squad
-Meltagun
-Sarge w/ Power Fist
-Razorback w/ TLAC
5-man Assault Squad
-Meltagun
-Sarge w/ Power Fist
-Razorback w/ TLAC
5-man Assault Squad
-Meltagun
-Sarge w/ Power Fist
-Razorback w/ TLAC
5-man Assault Squad
-Meltagun
-Sarge w/ Power Fist
-Razorback w/ TLAC
[Fast Attack]
Baal Predator
-TLAC
-Heavy Bolter sponsons
Baal Predator
-TLAC
-Heavy Bolter sponsons
Baal Predator
-TLAC
-Heavy Bolter sponsons
[Heavy Support]
Stormraven Gunship
-TLAC
-TLMM
Stormraven Gunship
-TLAC
-TLMM
Stormraven Gunship
-TLAC
-TLMM
4405 points for...
Brace yourself...
THIRTY-SIX ASSAULT CANNONS.
That's twenty-one though. One less than BT... You can't count twin-linked assault cannons as two.
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2011/08/31 15:05:51
Subject: Assault Cannon Spam
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Nurgle Chosen Marine on a Palanquin
Dumbarton, Scotland
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I thought we were counting TL as 2.
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2011/08/31 15:09:11
Subject: Re:Assault Cannon Spam
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Ferocious Black Templar Castellan
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Actually, I forgot to add LRCs to the Command Squads. That's another two cannons, for a total of 30. If we counted TL as two, that'd be 45.
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2011/08/31 15:12:15
Subject: Assault Cannon Spam
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Nurgle Chosen Marine on a Palanquin
Dumbarton, Scotland
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Yep, looks like BTs have won this round.
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2011/08/31 15:14:15
Subject: Assault Cannon Spam
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Perfect Shot Dark Angels Predator Pilot
Over the hills and far away.
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A pox on you AlmightyWalrus I was let down by my inability to take dedicated Landraiders. I must say though for a Army who was let down by a lackluster codex you Templers sure can spam the Assault cannons.
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2011/08/31 16:30:49
Subject: Re:Assault Cannon Spam
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Ferocious Black Templar Castellan
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If we count Psycannons though, Grey Knights win.
HQ
Ordo Malleus Inquisitor, Psycannon
Draigo
Elites
Purifiers, 4x Psycannon, Razorback /w TLAC
Purifiers, 4x Psycannon, Razorback /w TLAC
Purifiers, 4x Psycannon, Razorback /w TLAC
Henchmen, Razorback /w TLAC
Troops:
Paladins, 4x Psycannon
Paladins, 4x Psycannon
Paladins, 4x Psycannon
Paladins, 4x Psycannon
Paladins, 4x Psycannon
Paladins, 4x Psycannon
Fast Attack:
Interceptor Squad, 2x Psycannon
Interceptor Squad, 2x Psycannon
Interceptor Squad, 2x Psycannon
Heavy Support:
Purgation Squad, 4x Psycannon, Razorback /w TLAC
Purgation Squad, 4x Psycannon, Razorback /w TLAC
Purgation Squad, 4x Psycannon, Razorback /w TLAC
That's 62 assault cannons!
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2011/08/31 16:41:06
Subject: Re:Assault Cannon Spam
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AlmightyWalrus wrote:If we count Psycannons though, Grey Knights win.
HQ
Ordo Malleus Inquisitor, Psycannon
Draigo
Elites
Purifiers, 4x Psycannon, Razorback /w TLAC
Purifiers, 4x Psycannon, Razorback /w TLAC
Purifiers, 4x Psycannon, Razorback /w TLAC
Henchmen, Razorback /w TLAC
Troops:
Paladins, 4x Psycannon
Paladins, 4x Psycannon
Paladins, 4x Psycannon
Paladins, 4x Psycannon
Paladins, 4x Psycannon
Paladins, 4x Psycannon
Fast Attack:
Interceptor Squad, 2x Psycannon
Interceptor Squad, 2x Psycannon
Interceptor Squad, 2x Psycannon
Heavy Support:
Purgation Squad, 4x Psycannon, Razorback /w TLAC
Purgation Squad, 4x Psycannon, Razorback /w TLAC
Purgation Squad, 4x Psycannon, Razorback /w TLAC
That's 62 assault cannons!
And if you take Crowe instead of Draigo you can get 3 more Razorbacks w/ TLAC while the amount of psycannons remains the same, giving a new total of 65 assault cannons!
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2011/08/31 17:00:47
Subject: Re:Assault Cannon Spam
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Ferocious Black Templar Castellan
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Lewa2321 wrote:
And if you take Crowe instead of Draigo you can get 3 more Razorbacks w/ TLAC while the amount of psycannons remains the same, giving a new total of 65 assault cannons!
Bah, I knew I didn't do the math on Crowe right! 
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2011/08/31 17:22:01
Subject: Re:Assault Cannon Spam
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Smokin' Skorcha Driver
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AlmightyWalrus wrote:If we count Psycannons though, Grey Knights win.
HQ
Ordo Malleus Inquisitor, Psycannon
Draigo
Elites
Purifiers, 4x Psycannon, Razorback /w TLAC
Purifiers, 4x Psycannon, Razorback /w TLAC
Purifiers, 4x Psycannon, Razorback /w TLAC
Henchmen, Razorback /w TLAC
Troops:
Paladins, 4x Psycannon
Paladins, 4x Psycannon
Paladins, 4x Psycannon
Paladins, 4x Psycannon
Paladins, 4x Psycannon
Paladins, 4x Psycannon
Fast Attack:
Interceptor Squad, 2x Psycannon
Interceptor Squad, 2x Psycannon
Interceptor Squad, 2x Psycannon
Heavy Support:
Purgation Squad, 4x Psycannon, Razorback /w TLAC
Purgation Squad, 4x Psycannon, Razorback /w TLAC
Purgation Squad, 4x Psycannon, Razorback /w TLAC
That's 62 assault cannons!
Why does that seem super expensive..?
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