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So I have been a Tau player for awhile now and started to get the urge to start a new army. I want something that is as vastly different from the elite Tau Crisis Suits and Hammerheads dodging and hiding from assault while using their superior firepower to kill everything before it touches them. And I am tired of never deploying my troop choices because they are to fragile to get out of their transports and play.

So I decided to try and start a mostly foot ork army. I started to read some tactics threads but got bored so I wrote up a list. I am not really sure what is good or not as Orks are not usually played in my area. This is my first attempt, I want to stay away from trucks cause I dont have any, I have about a hundred fantasy and 40k orks that I can use to become boyz and lootas.

I also want to try and use Ghazghkull because he looks wicked and I have never used a special character before and I feel the time is NOW!

This is my base list, points are not total but it should be around 2000 points. Any help at all would be good.

Ghazghkull Thraka - 225

30 Ork Boyz, Nob, power klaw, bosspole - 220

30 Ork Boyz, Nob, power klaw, bosspole - 220

30 Ork Boyz, Nob, power klaw, bosspole - 220

15 Lootas - 225

15 Lootas -225

20 Grots, 2 Runtherd - 80

Big Mek, custom force field - 85

Choppers, rokit launcher - 50

killa khans, rokit launcha - 150

killa khans, rokit launcha - 150

killa khans, rokit launcha - 150

The Deffkoptas should be at least upgraded to Rokkits if you want to use them. Run them separately, two units of one. If you have the points, add buzzsaws. This is for tank hunting. With scout(can turbo boost at this point), and hopefully 1st turn, you can have a decent chance at popping vehicles other than Land Raiders and Monoliths.

Killa Kanz have a BS 3, thanks to the more accurate, if more skittery grots that pilot them. They work best with Rokkit Launchas, to make use of this BS(ballistic skill, not the other bs). Some people like KMB's. It's pricier though, and really only makes a difference for that AP 2. Depends on what you face a lot of. Some like grotzookas. They're fun weapons, but a bit short ranged.
I think all can agree though, that rokkit launchas are never a waste or a bad idea on kanz.

Have fun, and let us know if there are any other questions.

Looks like you absorbed enough to put together a decent Kan Wall. If you want to go with what a lot of other folks are doing, go ahead with the above list.

However, Orks are one of the only armies right now that don't really have a single accepted Meta (as BEST, that is) and really can be built decently even if you go far afield from what is 'effective'. I'd suggest running the Kan wall for a while, since the models that go into it are almost always useful, and you, coming from Tau, will like da Dakka. (march and shoot, march and shoot. Iz dey close enuff? WAAAAGH!!!) However, Orks can be even Shootier, with Tankbustas/Lootas, Flash Gitz (though they're widely agreed to be non cost-effective) and of course, what may easily be the most devastating weapon in non-Apocalypse games, the Shokk Attakk Gunn. (devestating to which side, is the question)

Or if you're trying more for a foot horde, try Ghazkull Thrakka and a Warphead (maybe even Zogwart!) for some footsloggin' shenanigans and a little bit of random.

Thx for the help guys, I changed my list according to your advice, taking out a chopper because it could not fit.

As you can see I dont want to go to over board with firepower after using Tau but I want to keep a little cause it makes me feel better.

Do you guys think from expereicne if this list would be fun to play, it looks pretty enjoyable to me but that is because I am always defending and dont get to usually run out there and attack? I play a lot of different marine chapters so gloriously screaming into battle will not be something they expect from me. I heard though that moving 90 orks foward every turn gets old fast.

What about Ganzkull, is he worth it?

Also I am not sure if I want to buy all the killa khans or lootas as they are pretty expensive money wise. I might just throw on some tau weapons on my regular orcs and make them into lootas. Killa Khans will be harder, any tips on how to make these things or neat and cheap conversions?

Thread spools and paint pots. Basically anything that's small and round (or even square!) can become the body, and then chopsticks, sprue, and spare weapons bits can be made into everything else.

Rokkits can either be looted from other models/units (I chop mine off AoBR koptas- I replace them with KMBs) or made well and cheaply by using the tips of disposable pens/toothpicks/small pointy things.

Brother Taurinus wrote:The Deffkoptas should be at least upgraded to Rokkits if you want to use them. Run them separately, two units of one. If you have the points, add buzzsaws. This is for tank hunting. With scout(can turbo boost at this point), and hopefully 1st turn, you can have a decent chance at popping vehicles other than Land Raiders and Monoliths.

Killa Kanz have a BS 3, thanks to the more accurate, if more skittery grots that pilot them. They work best with Rokkit Launchas, to make use of this BS(ballistic skill, not the other bs). Some people like KMB's. It's pricier though, and really only makes a difference for that AP 2. Depends on what you face a lot of. Some like grotzookas. They're fun weapons, but a bit short ranged.
I think all can agree though, that rokkit launchas are never a waste or a bad idea on kanz.

Have fun, and let us know if there are any other questions.

All good advice

mooseman007 wrote:Thx for the help guys, I changed my list according to your advice, taking out a chopper because it could not fit.

As you can see I dont want to go to over board with firepower after using Tau but I want to keep a little cause it makes me feel better.

Do you guys think from expereicne if this list would be fun to play, it looks pretty enjoyable to me but that is because I am always defending and dont get to usually run out there and attack? I play a lot of different marine chapters so gloriously screaming into battle will not be something they expect from me. I heard though that moving 90 orks foward every turn gets old fast.

What about Ganzkull, is he worth it?

Also I am not sure if I want to buy all the killa khans or lootas as they are pretty expensive money wise. I might just throw on some tau weapons on my regular orcs and make them into lootas. Killa Khans will be harder, any tips on how to make these things or neat and cheap conversions?

Yes moving that many models gets old really really fast if you are planing to play in tournaments get real good at moving those boyz or get ready for alot of 3 turn games and pissed of oponents.

Another good build for orks is the tried and true battlewagon rush popular amoung tourny players and lazy folk like me for its speed of play.

Ghaz is mandatory in a good ork kanwall.

Ghaz is good.

This is probably the most beautiful thing about Orks... you can really kit-bash the hell out of them. Don't want to buy trukks? Buy cheaper models such as scale German and American half-tracks! Heck, I used the hull of a old Sherman tank model and a gun+shield from a old Anti-Tank gun to make my own looted wagon. Orks are also awesome for a starter painter as bad paint jobs actually lend them some charm and tend to feel more orky.

Enjoy!

The Deffkopta should have a buzzsaw so it can assault after. Rest is sweet.

If i'm not mistaken, your points are off on the Deffkopta too. It should be 45 points, I believe.

Yeah, so you're only 20 points away from that buzzsaw. You could drop 3 grots and a runtherd for 22. Whatever works, but if you're going to have the single kopta, probably best for the saw as well.