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Can I use the commander on the left as a Commissar? This is the IG company command squad box.

As long as it has the appropriate wargear, yes.

Sweet. What are the requirements for platoon Commanders looks? Dose it have to be that figure as well?

Can I use Something else as a company comander or do they ave to look like that with a trench coat? can i bling out a trooper or use one of the other chest in the ccs box for that? I'm new to the game btw

You can use them as long as your opponent knows that it is a Commissar. The Platoon commander only has to look like a sergeant as there are no box sets containing specifically Platoon command squads. Company commanders are a different thing, however.

Ultimately, the specific model you choose to use is unimportant so long as it is easy for your opponent to tell what's what.

Correct me if I am wrong, but company commanders, like platoon commanders, just need to either stand out from the rest so there is no confusion, or clearly be identified as such for your opponents sake.

Correct, UMGuy

Sweet so if i buy 2 CCS boxes i get both my platoon CS and my CCS and 2 commissars with tons of bits! right?

You get some good bits, I don't know about tons of bits though, I was pretty underwhelmed by my command squad box to be honest!

Just make sure you paint your commissars red, if you do that there can be no confusion.

juraigamer wrote:Just make sure you paint your commissars red, if you do that there can be no confusion.

Erm, Commissars have black coats.

With red bits?

Grimtuff wrote:

juraigamer wrote:Just make sure you paint your commissars red, if you do that there can be no confusion.

Erm, Commissars have black coats.

...or paint him whatever color you want.

As long as the model has the correct wargear and is identified to your opponent as a Commissar, no problem.

biccat wrote:

Grimtuff wrote:

juraigamer wrote:Just make sure you paint your commissars red, if you do that there can be no confusion.

Erm, Commissars have black coats.

...or paint him whatever color you want.

As long as the model has the correct wargear and is identified to your opponent as a Commissar, no problem.

You completely missed the point there fella. Of course you can paint them in whatever way you want, however Commissars are generally recognised by their black trenchcoats, not red as juraigamer seemed to suggest.

For the most part, Sargeants, platoon commanders, and company commanders are easy to set apart as they are the only models in the squad with close combat weapons.

Commissars are traditionally in black, but even making them the only one in a peaked hat instead of helmet would often be enough.

Commissar_Tiberius wrote:Sweet so if i buy 2 CCS boxes i get both my platoon CS and my CCS and 2 commissars with tons of bits! right?

I'm going to say probably not to this.

You will likey want to make sure that your CCS and CS at least have distinctive headgear. Each sprue only comes with one peaked cap. It does have a forage hat, which would be fine for a platoon CS though.

At this point you're still short one peaked hat for your CCS. You can either just give him the forage hat (probably not ideal for a CCS), or you can source another peaked cap. The Basilisk is the only tank kit that still comes with a peaked cap head, (the others used to before they got down-accessorized by GW) so you can get one there, or just ask around. Any IG player who'se been playing for more than a few years probably has a couple extras from the days when tank kits actually came with accessory sprues.

Grimtuff wrote:

biccat wrote:

Grimtuff wrote:

juraigamer wrote:Just make sure you paint your commissars red, if you do that there can be no confusion.

Erm, Commissars have black coats.

...or paint him whatever color you want.

As long as the model has the correct wargear and is identified to your opponent as a Commissar, no problem.

You completely missed the point there fella. Of course you can paint them in whatever way you want, however Commissars are generally recognised by their black trenchcoats, not red as juraigamer seemed to suggest.

I think Juraigamer was making a joke since Commssars seem to stick out ike a sore thumb why not paint them red anyway...

Thats actually the way i made my commissar. I personaly did not like the bolt pistol that came with it. Looks to big. I used the bolt pistol from the chimera.

Eilif wrote:

Commissar_Tiberius wrote:Sweet so if i buy 2 CCS boxes i get both my platoon CS and my CCS and 2 commissars with tons of bits! right?

I'm going to say probably not to this.

You will likey want to make sure that your CCS and CS at least have distinctive headgear. Each sprue only comes with one peaked cap. It does have a forage hat, which would be fine for a platoon CS though.

I disagree with the bolded component. The only requirement is to make the CC and PC distinctive from their squads (and far less so, each other). that can be done with weapons most easily. Headgear is one way to do that, but not the only way.

If you're saying that there should be at least one fairly major bit distinguishing them (not just a cigar or rank stripes) than I'd agree, but there are plenty of such bitz on the Command squad sprue.

That's a good point Polonius,

The swagger stick or one of the decorative torsos are good for distinguishing higher officers. After all, Patton is most often pictured wearing a helmet, so you're probably right about headgear not being essential.

I made my officers from Lt. Varras figures with a head swap and I already had the metal commader fig, so my longcoated figure from the command box got a different color trim (silver rather than bronze) and became my Master of Ordinance

So ya those CCS Boxes are a huge bargain. There's enough bits in there to really expand an army rather than buy all the cast metals piece by piece.

The Commissars are some of the more interesting models available to the Guard, however, so unless you're really on a budget or it's your primary aim to have fun converting them, I'd consider it a shame to miss out on Citadel's 'proper' Commissar models.

C/P Commanders don't need headgear, they can easily be identified as officers by giving them a sword.

You do, of course, want to differentiate the CCS from the PCS, but that can be accomplished through the paint job.

Or you could be cool and buy Death Korps.

Commissar Dehandda of the Gama Ray Delta quadrant was denied the right to enlist as a space marine. Though he passes all physical requirements he failed the psychological exam. He has been collecting pieces of power armor in order to make his own.
Including two power fists! I can't wait to make that.

There's a psychological exam to be an SM?
I would have thought anyone to weak of mind would die before they reach the scout phase and anyone too crazy is more or less perfect to be an SM.

I think that paint is also the easiest way to differentiate. I personally don't use helmet-less units in my armies (both sm and tau), so the way I show sergeants and such is through wargear and painting. So maybe give all your PCS guys white left shoulder armor. And maybe your CCS has both the white left shoulder and a red band around their right bicep. Just a thought.

You could even have everyone in flak armor. Maybe where your IG regiment is located the enemy has a lot of snipers, so officers try to blend in to avoid having their head ventilated. This was actually fairly common in WW2, to the extreme where full bird colonels were wearing 2nd lieutenant combat helmets, just so they wouldn't be picked off.

Hey I just realized I have an entire Commissar Yarick Primed and sitting in a bitz box because we can't use 3W HQs yet in the escalation I am playing. Can he be used as a lord commissar/ reg commissar with a PF?

Commissar_Tiberius wrote:Hey I just realized I have an entire Commissar Yarick Primed and sitting in a bitz box because we can't use 3W HQs yet in the escalation I am playing. Can he be used as a lord commissar/ reg commissar with a PF?

That's entirely up to your local gaming group. Yarrick is a pretty iconic model, though, and I wouldn't recommend it without conversion.

Yeah, your friends at the FLGS will likely have no problem with it if you let them know ahead of time, but it might raise some eyebrows at a tourney.

There's not really any set explanation of what a Commander or Commissar HAS to look like. Only thing we know about commissars is that they have bolt pistols, long coats, and peaked hats. Personally, I separate what are effectively veterans (BS 4 models) as having green fatigues. Company commanders have green fatigues and yellow trim. Rank and file have khaki fatigues, with the platoon commanders having red trim. You should treat them like they're otherwise just very unique kitbashes, with binoculars, holstered pistols, swagger sticks, sunglasses, or whatever other iconic item you can come up with, and go nuts. Long as they stand out and you can tell the difference between a company commander, a platoon commander, and a commissar (mine have the red coats, not black, cause I'm a beautiful snowflake like that), there should be no major problem. I've never been to a tournament and had anyone have to question them. No one has even questioned my homemade Al-rahem after I point him out.