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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/09 01:33:38
Subject: Factions that actually have worked together in fluff
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
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Im looking for factions that have actually worked together or on a normal basis. CSM and daemons are a give in as well as space marines and guard. I know blood angels and necrons have teamed up to fight nids. What are some others?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/09 01:41:50
Subject: Factions that actually have worked together in fluff
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Tail Gunner
Mérida, México.
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the imperial navy and the astartes fleet
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Originally Posted by ryng_sting
If neither the Eldar, the Emperor, and the Chaos god Tzeentch can predict the future with 100% certainty...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/09 01:46:15
Subject: Re:Factions that actually have worked together in fluff
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Dakka Veteran
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The Imperium and the Eldar have had multiple alliances of necessity, and there was also one with the Tau recently against Hive Fleet Gorgon.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/09 01:46:57
Subject: Factions that actually have worked together in fluff
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Wondering Why the Emperor Left
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l0k1 wrote: I know blood angels and necrons have teamed up to fight nids.
shh......
This never happened.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/09 01:47:40
Subject: Factions that actually have worked together in fluff
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Mutilatin' Mad Dok
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Sometimes IG and Chaos marines hire Ork blood axe Kommandos as mercs.
The Ultras fought with tau against necrons, Calgar let the Tau leave off world so they can glass cannon it.
And I believe Eldar helped Pedro Kantor fight orks.
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"See a sword is a key cause when you stick it in people it unlocks their death" - Caboose
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/09 01:53:21
Subject: Re:Factions that actually have worked together in fluff
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Hellish Haemonculus
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The Sisters of Battle and the Inquisition. The Sisters of Battle and the Imperial Guard. The Inquisition and the Imperial Guard. Guard units have been known to defect to Chaos, and they have also been known to defect to the Tau. The Eldar have been known to occasionally come to the aid of members of another race. (Although their reasons always remain mysterious.) In Cain's Last Stand, (by Sandy Mitchell) a group of Sisters is subverted by Chaos. Ork mercenaries have been known to sell their services to anyone willing to pay (which seems like it could include Chaos, any Imperial Force, either flavor of Eldar, or Tau). Others are theoretically possible, but these are the ones that jump out at me from the fluff.
Hope this helps.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/09 01:55:28
Subject: Factions that actually have worked together in fluff
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
A garden grove on Citadel Station
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CSM and traitor guard and daemons
Ork Blood Axes and guard, radical inquisition, chaos
Guard, marines, SoB, inquisition, GK
Blood Angels and Necrons
Guard, marines, inquisition, eldar
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/09 02:01:29
Subject: Factions that actually have worked together in fluff
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
Noctis Labyrinthus
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Captured humans/guardsmen have been known to be used by the Necrons in battle, but only in a few instances of fluff.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/09 02:04:23
Subject: Factions that actually have worked together in fluff
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
Sitting in yo' bath tub, poopin out shoggoths
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eldar and imperium work together every now and than.
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750 points
1000 Points
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/09 02:29:16
Subject: Factions that actually have worked together in fluff
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Hooded Inquisitorial Interrogator
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Dark Eldar teamed up with the Craftworld Eldar to help defend a cradftworld that was under attack. Chaos Space Marines team up with Traitor Guard constantly (but I got beaten to the punch)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/09 03:04:18
Subject: Factions that actually have worked together in fluff
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Dark eldar haemonculi and tau vs Tyranids.
Necrons and tau vs tyranids
(both ended badly for the tau post-battle  )
Vect and Astartes vs the noble houses of Commorragh ;D
Ork mercs vs all sorts of folk
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The Viletide: Daemons of Nurgle/Deathguard: 7400 pts
Disclples of the Dragon - Ad Mech - about 2000 pts
GSC - about 2000 Pts
Rhulic Mercs - um...many...
Circle Oroboros - 300 Pts or so
Menoth - 300+ pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/09 03:14:32
Subject: Factions that actually have worked together in fluff
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Fireknife Shas'el
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Void__Dragon wrote:Captured humans/guardsmen have been known to be used by the Necrons in battle, but only in a few instances of fluff.
Can you expand on that?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/09 03:19:17
Subject: Factions that actually have worked together in fluff
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
Noctis Labyrinthus
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nomotog wrote:Can you expand on that?
I'm having trouble remembering specifics.
I think it was listed as a possible battle scenario in the 3e Witchhunters codex, and also mentioned in Xenology, with human guardsmen fighting alongside Necrons, but I'm not positive.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/09 03:19:34
Subject: Factions that actually have worked together in fluff
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Ancient Ultramarine Venerable Dreadnought
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nomotog wrote:Void__Dragon wrote:Captured humans/guardsmen have been known to be used by the Necrons in battle, but only in a few instances of fluff.
Can you expand on that?
Read Dead Men Walking. There are examples in that book of Necrons using captured humans for slave labour.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/09 05:08:03
Subject: Factions that actually have worked together in fluff
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Warp-Screaming Noise Marine
Vancouver, BC
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Kroot mercanaries... basically as long as they get to eat what they kill....
read some about some xenos teaming up with rogue traders but i don't know if that's what you were asking
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/09 06:43:16
Subject: Factions that actually have worked together in fluff
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Krazed Killa Kan
Minnesota, land of 10,000 Lakes and 10,000,000,000 Mosquitos
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Coolyo294 wrote:nomotog wrote:Void__Dragon wrote:Captured humans/guardsmen have been known to be used by the Necrons in battle, but only in a few instances of fluff.
Can you expand on that?
Read Dead Men Walking. There are examples in that book of Necrons using captured humans for slave labour.
Wait, what? Why do robots/machines need humans for slave labor? Shouldn't it be the other way around? I am so confused.
Not sure that it counts (as it's all in the same codex, and pretty much counts as the same faction) but Tau are allied with the Kroot, Vespid, Demiurg, and IIRC, a variety of other races within their sphere of influence. They also have the Gue'vesa, defected Imperial Guardsmen.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/09 06:44:54
Subject: Factions that actually have worked together in fluff
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
Noctis Labyrinthus
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Locclo wrote:Wait, what? Why do robots/machines need humans for slave labor? Shouldn't it be the other way around? I am so confused.
Their masters literally feed on the misery of mortals.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/09 07:02:14
Subject: Factions that actually have worked together in fluff
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Orks and Chaos Space Marines .
Eldar and Dark Eldar.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/09 07:03:48
Subject: Re:Factions that actually have worked together in fluff
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Crazed Zealot
Montreal, Canada
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Salamanders and Sisters of Battle teamed up against chaos space marines.
In fact you don't really need confirmation from the fluff to know that pretty much all Imperial factions work with one another on a regular basis despite their agendas, rivalries, feud or other nonsense.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/09 08:05:28
Subject: Factions that actually have worked together in fluff
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
HIDING IN THE METAL BAWKSES!!
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The obvious one, Imperial Navy and Imperial Guard.
Various IoM factions and Eldar in many occasions.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/09 12:37:44
Subject: Factions that actually have worked together in fluff
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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Any force of the Imperium (IG/SM, Inq/IG, SM/GK, ect) The Imperium/Eldar (A lot during the Gothic War) Imperium/Tau (Cain Novels) IG/Kroot (Kroot are mercenaries by trade) Imperium/Squa...=I= Statement terminated per Order of the Inquisition=I=
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/09 16:32:55
Subject: Factions that actually have worked together in fluff
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Ragin' Ork Dreadnought
Ingelheim am Rhein, Germany
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nids and Necron dont ally with nobody, right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/09 16:39:28
Subject: Factions that actually have worked together in fluff
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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MrMerlin wrote:nids and Necron dont ally with nobody, right?
Technically Necrons are out simply to kill everyone but it's possible they would ally with a faction for mutual survival whilst a larger threat is dealt with...
Though with Necrons allying means they attack the larger threat instead of you. Automatically Appended Next Post: Jimsolo wrote:The Sisters of Battle and the Inquisition. The Sisters of Battle and the Imperial Guard. The Inquisition and the Imperial Guard. Guard units have been known to defect to Chaos, and they have also been known to defect to the Tau. The Eldar have been known to occasionally come to the aid of members of another race. (Although their reasons always remain mysterious.) In Cain's Last Stand, (by Sandy Mitchell) a group of Sisters is subverted by Chaos. Ork mercenaries have been known to sell their services to anyone willing to pay (which seems like it could include Chaos, any Imperial Force, either flavor of Eldar, or Tau). Others are theoretically possible, but these are the ones that jump out at me from the fluff.
Hope this helps.
The sister in Cain's Last Stand are an exception...
Psychic Hitler is not commonplace.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/09 16:46:59
Subject: Factions that actually have worked together in fluff
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Hallowed Canoness
Ireland
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purplefood wrote:The sister in Cain's Last Stand are an exception...
Psychic Hitler is not commonplace.
The Cain novels are hardly an accurate depiction of the setting, anyways. The author did not understood how the Schola Progenium or the Sisterhood work at all and goes against established Codex material with his writings.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/09 16:48:31
Subject: Factions that actually have worked together in fluff
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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MrMerlin wrote:nids and Necron dont ally with nobody, right?
Not according to Matt Ward.....
Really, appropriate "alliances" are:
-Imperium/Eldar/Tau in any combination, though such alliances should be temporary to meet an immediate threat
-Forces of Chaos and Ork/Dark Eldar mercenaries or pirates
Tyranids and Necrons need to be above reasoning with or getting through to no matter the situation. It ruins their image otherwise. This is especially true with Tyranids.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/09 16:52:19
Subject: Factions that actually have worked together in fluff
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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Lynata wrote:purplefood wrote:The sister in Cain's Last Stand are an exception...
Psychic Hitler is not commonplace.
The Cain novels are hardly an accurate depiction of the setting, anyways. The author did not understood how the Schola Progenium or the Sisterhood work at all and goes against established Codex material with his writings.
In fairness the established fluff in the codeci can change a lot. Though yeah you have a point but apart from the error with him never being a cadet commissar (assigned to a full commissar) i am having trouble remembering any particular errors...
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"Further proof that Purple is a fething brilliant super villain " -KingCracker
"Purp.. Im pretty sure I have a gun than can reach you...."-Nicorex
"That's not really an apocalypse. That's just Europe."-Grakmar
"almost as good as winning free cake at the tea drinking contest for an Englishman." -Reds8n
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/09 17:04:48
Subject: Factions that actually have worked together in fluff
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Hallowed Canoness
Ireland
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purplefood wrote:In fairness the established fluff in the codeci can change a lot. Though yeah you have a point but apart from the error with him never being a cadet commissar (assigned to a full commissar) i am having trouble remembering any particular errors... The Schola has always been described as gender-divided, with the different genders only seeing each other at religious ceremonies - and not meeting up all the time doing sport games as in the novel.Codex material has noted that the lifestyle of pupils and teachers at the Schola is particularly strict and puritan in order to preserve purity - and not having the teachers get together for social drinking and card games or even flirting with each other as in the novel.Codices and rulebooks have stressed that the Sororitas are a penitent organization that believes in pain and suffering to share in the Emperor's sacrifice whilst brooking no distraction from their holy tasks - the complete opposite from how that flirting Superior was portrayed in the book.Last but not least, Cain would have never even become a Commissar in the first place. Is it actually ever explained how he ended up being one? Because the Schola does not only train warriors; orphans who do not display sufficient martial aptitude and spirit simply get sent to become Administratum scribes, which is the majority of what the Scholae churn out. There's no reason whatsoever how a coward should end up as a Commissar (given that I assume he would not want it!).
^ Note that this is just what I noticed, based on how people described what happens in the novels. Maybe there's more, or maybe some of these things did not happen the way they were described to me. The readers will know if it's accurate or not.
And yeah, fluff can change, but these parts never did - at least in GW material. If you dismiss the idea of licensed publications being canon (see various GW/ BL/ FFG writer quotes here), the setting ends up looking a lot more consistent.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/09 17:35:02
Subject: Factions that actually have worked together in fluff
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Brainy Zoanthrope
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Actually, MrMerlin, Necrons have teamed up with multiple races, recorded inside the current dex. These are the following races:
Guardsmen
Blood Angels
Tau
And at least 3 Unknown Minor Xenos races.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/09 22:49:21
Subject: Factions that actually have worked together in fluff
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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Imperium allied itself with both Eldar and Tau against common threats.
Chaos and Orks often ally ( but we all know Chaos use Orks as tools all the time ).
Then we have Blood Angels and Necron alliance...
I am pretty sure Dark Eldar and Eldar sometimes join forces against common foe...
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Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.
The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/09 23:05:15
Subject: Re:Factions that actually have worked together in fluff
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Imperial Agent Provocateur
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Enemy of my Enemy is my friend.
As long as both sides benefit from the alliance (And thus, the inevitable betrayal), there is no reason at all for any two factions to join forces.
If you brutally deflect a Tyranid Hive fleet to a Tau planet, You may not be working 'with' Tyranids, but you certainly benefit from either out come of the war. I believe the Eldar (?) did this exact scenario once. but it may have been IoM, not sure.
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