how to make 2v1 as fair as possible.

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**Deepeyes**

My flatmates all want to join in one game and we would like to try 2v1. 2 teams of 1000pt vs 1 team of 2000pt. I am not sure what would be the fairest way to do this. (Armies would be IG+BA vs Orks)

Would it be better for the two players to use individual FOC or to combined their units into one FOC?

We want to just have some fun but also keep it as fair as possible.

Any input would be great

**Lord Rogukiel**

Well fluff wise its completely fair. And the general way of doing multiple players is that everyone has their own FOC.

If you wanted to make it a bit fairer, then maybe you could want to split your 2000 points into two FOC, if you thought it would help that is. Otherwise I would just get the units you know will do the most damage to each of them respectively. Inside your 2000 points list, you could have half the units going for the BA, and other half for the IG.

Hope that helps!

**juraigamer**

The easiest way to make it fair so you don't have a player bringing 1000 points of heavy support, is that both players need a troop and an HQ, beyond that the follow FOC.

**AustonT**

2 FOCs vs 1 FOC
If you fully fill the single FOC start on another one.

**Belexar**

Both should use a single FOC, but each one should have at least one HQ and two Troop choices. Also, I like the fact that it's a very fluffy battle

Make sure to make a battle report and show it to us!

**Mr Nobody**

The player who is out numbered should have some extra rules that are to their favor.

**Nocturn**

I agree that there should be two 1000pt FOC's vs one 2000pt FOC.

Have your opponents set up the terrain, but make the table edge decision your own. Also, I suggest that you choose which side sets up first, and who starts first. This will balance out the fact that they can strategize between themselves throughout the game.

**Deadshot**

I don't like this 2 FOC vs 1 FOC chart thing. It puts the Orks at a disadvantage. He only gets 2 HQs, 3 elites, FA or HS or 6 troops. You could get twice that. 9 Russes and 3 Vindis vs 3 BWs? No chance.

**DeathReaper**

The most fair way to do it is to have both players build a normal 1000 point army.

and the person that is solo build 2 different 1000 point armies.

That way the game on the field is even.

**Deadshot**

I am with Reaper here.

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Just as a side note, I find it a little amusing that DeathReaper joined Dakka about a year before me, yet I have posted nearly 300 times more than him.

**ph34r**

Deadshot wrote:I am with Reaper here.

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Just as a side note, I find it a little amusing that DeathReaper joined Dakka about a year before me, yet I have posted nearly 300 times more than him.

You know that's not a good thing, right?

**forruner_mercy**

Deadshot wrote:I am with Reaper here.

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Just as a side note, I find it a little amusing that DeathReaper joined Dakka about a year before me, yet I have posted nearly 300 times more than him.

You are a busy bee.

Back on topic, I agree with what Reaper said.

**Phototoxin**

However having to fill out 2 hq and 4 troops can be a bit irritating for a player.

I suggest that they share FoC - 1 HQ and min 1 Troop each - they they can share the other FOCs between them - it stops 6 HS and 6 Elites vs your 3 and 3 which is unfair!