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Been messing around with the Grey Knights dex past couple of days and I threw this together. Before someone says that it'll be a walk in the park to kill all the scoring units, I'm using the Grand Masters Grand Strategy to make 3D things scoring. Paladins for taking the enemy objective and a venerable or two for sitting on objectives, which means they'll be 7-9 scoring units, 1- 3 of which are pretty hard to kill. Grand Master goes with the Paladins, and they all go in the Stormraven. Would this list work? How could you make it better? General tips and suggestions would be great! Thanks in advance.

HQ
Coteaz – 100
Grand Master - 205
- Psychostroke grenades, Rad grenades

Elites
5 Paladins - 285
- Incinerator, sword
- Incinerator, halberd
- Daemon hammer
- Sword
- Halberd

Venerable Dreadnought - 195
- 2 TL autocannons, Psybolt
Venerable Dreadnought - 195
- 2 TL autocannons, Psybolt

Troops
3 Warrior Acolytes in Chimera, Spotlight - 68
3 Warrior Acolytes in Chimera, Spotlight - 68
3 Warrior Acolytes in Chimera, Spotlight - 68
3 Warrior Acolytes in Chimera - 67
3 Warrior Acolytes in Chimera - 67
3 Warrior Acolytes in Chimera - 67

Fast Attack
Stormraven Gunship - 205

Heavy Support
Dreadnought - 135
- 2 TL autocannons, Psybolt
Dreadnought - 135
- 2 TL autocannons, Psybolt
Dreadnought - 135
- 2 TL autocannons, Psybolt

2,000

Side note: At 2500 points I'd add melta's to all the chimera units and bulk them up with crusaders, about 3 in each unit, bringing it to 6 men per chimera.

Interesting list I think it would do pretty well in objective based games but kill points I think youre going to have a lot of problems with. I would like to see a battle report with this list.

Similar to a list I have been running. It looks good until you realize that if your opponent can down the Raven and 2 dreads turn 1 you are left with a much less effective fighting force because your Chimeras are filled with empty shirts. ML spam Wolves, IG, and Dark Eldar who get the drop on this list will definitely give you a run for your money.

That being said I mitigate this is my list with redundancy. 2 Stormravens. One with Paladins one with DCA. 3 regular Dreads and 3 Chimeras with regular guys, and 10 terminators with psycannons as a rock that can be combat squaded and thrown into Chimeras if need be. I also take a Librarian rather than GM to buff the DCA unit or Paladins as needs may be.

It's a solid list mate, lots of backfield shooting and the immediate threat of the pallie SR.

I only have 2 real issues, those paladins would do far better with psycannons over incinerators. Psycannons allow you some ranged threat; and tbh anything you are in incinerator range of you'll crush in the following assault phase. Given that you are relentless from the TDA so are pumping out 8 shots that squad is now a serious threat to vehicles and infantry alike at range. Also gives you more anti AV14.

The other problem IMO is that those warrior accolyte squads are doing absolutely nothing, they certainly provide some more armour saturation and suppression fire from the chimeras but they make for very very easy killpoints. I'd drop 1 paladin (only place I could see to cut points) and one acolyte squad to afford meltas on the rest. At present one LR could walk through your lines, and besides you'll gain another 5 units capable of killing tanks.

Lot's of AV12 and paladins also competing for the right to get shot with S8+ firepower makes this a pretty damn tough list.

Switched it up a bit, what you reckon? TIL you can use PotMS on the SR to fire off the melta after going flat out...

HQ
Coteaz – 100

Grand Master - 205
- Psychostroke grenades, Rad grenades

Elites
4 Paladins - 260
- Psycannon, sword
- Psycannon, halberd
- Daemon hammer
- Halberd

Venerable Dreadnought - 195
- 2 TL autocannons, Psybolt

Troops
3 Warrior Acolytes in Chimera, 2 Meltaguns - 87
3 Warrior Acolytes in Chimera, Meltagun - 77
3 Warrior Acolytes in Chimera, Meltagun, Spotlight - 78
3 Warrior Acolytes in Chimera, Meltagun, Spotlight - 78
5 Death Cult Assassins, 2 Crusaders - 105 (These guys in the other SR with Coteaz)

Fast Attack
Stormraven Gunship - 205
- TL Multi- Melta
Stormraven Gunship - 205
- TL Multi- Melta

Heavy Support
Dreadnought - 135
- 2 TL autocannons, Psybolt
Dreadnought - 135
- 2 TL autocannons, Psybolt
Dreadnought - 135
- 2 TL autocannons, Psybolt

2,000

Aye, it generally looks alot better. However I would still say some of the units are still a tad lacking:

-Ideally you want 3 meltas on each acolyte squad, BS3 is sadly not all that reliable.
-The DCA/Crusader unit is rather small, I generally see people recommending around 7-8 DCA with a few henchmen and a techmarine (grenades and hammerhand).

I can't see anyway to free up points for this though.

I also personally don't see the assaulty henchmen gelling to well with the list, they aren't a threat to vehicles, very fragile to shooting (T3 and mostly 5++, the lack of assault grenades really hurts them here) and can largely be ignored until the paladins are dealt with. A second raven with paladins or GKT would work better but of course that costs a ton in points. My point is that IMO they second raven doesn't really help your list, the issue of redundancy is... well redundant. If you go first you turbo boost and POTMS, take alot of the enemies firepower (one can hope), explode and some angry Paladins jump out. If you go second you just reserve the raven. I think you'd be better off spending those points on more henchmen chimeras (a couple of 5 man DCA units or 2 in chimeras could make decent counter assault units).

Also, while your not playing a Draigo/pure paladin army you might find this article interesting: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/393401.page

2nd list is vastly improved from the first. I would still suggest a Librarian over a GM but YMMV.

Oh dear, my minds literally turned to mush, can shake my head and hear it splashing around a bit. Reworked it, now that the troops can stand up to a little bit of beating. I'm not a fan of DCA on the troops as I'd be using them defensively and just 3 of them would suck anyway; the 3++, as well as going to ground, should help them stay on the table. Also, 3 melta's each.

Prefer the Grand Master for the 2+/3++ with a good profile and the grenades are good. But the argue really is about the cover the guy can give you vs. the buffs the Master can give to units, and I would really like some real tough scoring units.

HQ
Coteaz – 100

Grand Master - 210
- Psychostroke, Rad and Blind grenades

Elites
5 Paladins - 315
- Psycannon, sword
- Psycannon, halberd
- Daemon hammer
- Halberd
- Sword

Venerable Dreadnought - 195
- 2 TL autocannons, Psybolt

Troops
3 Warrior Acolytes with 3 Meltaguns, 3 Crusaders, in Chimera - 142
3 Warrior Acolytes with 3 Meltaguns, 3 Crusaders, in Chimera - 142
3 Warrior Acolytes with 3 Meltaguns, 3 Crusaders, in Chimera, Spotlight - 143
3 Warrior Acolytes with 3 Meltaguns, 3 Crusaders, in Chimera, Spotlight - 143

Fast Attack
Stormraven Gunship - 205
- TL Multi- Melta

Heavy Support
Dreadnought - 135
- 2 TL autocannons, Psybolt
Dreadnought - 135
- 2 TL autocannons, Psybolt
Dreadnought - 135
- 2 TL autocannons, Psybolt

2,000

I would worry about objectives. A squad of marines with 2 melta shots could take out the chimera and then charge the warriors. This is one squad to take out one scoring unit and you only have 6.

I think you also have leadership issues with them does this make sense: If a chimera blows up it is quite likely one warrior will die which leads to a morale test.

@MFletch: You must of posted just after I posted the updated list. Fixed your concerns.

@shoebox sorry I didn't read carefully enough. Though I would still be worried about scoring units that are easily killed with no Ld and only I3.

Why not go for Psybacks rather than Chimeras? Psybacks are much better than Chimeras if the unit inside has no meaningful shooting attacks (laspistols!).

This will save you some points to make those small acolyte units more able to survive their transport being blown up.

Love the crusaders...

Why not go for Psybacks rather than Chimeras? Psybacks are much better than Chimeras if the unit inside has no meaningful shooting attacks (laspistols!).

This will save you some points to make those small acolyte units more able to survive their transport being blown up.

I'm not sure I follow, the henchmen squads have 3 meltas a piece so the chimera is immediately better in that they can shoot while embarked.

Both a RB and a chimera are closed topped vehicles so the squad inside will suffer equally in the event of an explosion regardless of which transport you take. Also the chimera has a higher front AV so is less likely to explode.

As we're getting all muddled up with who's talking about what I've created a new thread with the updated (and much improved...) list here. Thanks for all the help so far and hope to see you on the new thread.