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This came from the Tau Codex Brainstorm and the How Storm Troopers Should Be threads.

This represents designated marksman weapons that are between an assault rifle, and a sniper rifle. They can fire on the move and be accurate and have longer range than assault rifles. However, they don't have the range of sniper rifles nor the rof of assault rifles.

Rifle: May fire as either Assault1 or Heavy2.

This seems too similar to Rapid Fire, you have two modes of fire, giving you an advantage at the downside of no movement.

You pretty much just described a rapid fire weapon.

I didn't mean to post this, in fact, I could have sworn I closed the browser without hitting submit.

Anyway, its's actually the opposite rapid fire. Rapid Fire lets you fire 1 once stationary and twice on the move at the limit of 12"
Rifle lets you fire once normally on the move and twice at the cost of movement. I also want to add a clause about no assaulting.

Oh ok. Didn't read it clearly enough. It's not a bad idea, but I can see it becoming OP, depending on what units are allowed to field it, and what the weapons stat line was. What did you have in mind as far as str, ap, and range, etc?


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It would make guard infantry blobs downright terrifying.

I thought that "Rapid Fire" would involve the new rules in the OP, and the current Rapid Fire rules would apply to a new "Rifle" weapon type?...

For example, weapons like Boltguns and Lasguns would have the Rifle weapon type (but would be functionally identical to their current counterparts), whereas weapons like Shuriken Cannons, Heavy Bolters, etc (basically any infantry weapon that's currently Heavy 3+) would have the Rapid Fire special type (with the new rules above).





On that note, perhaps Rapid Fire could be tweaked just a little? Here's what I was thinking:

- May move and shoot once, up to maximum range.
- May remain stationary and fire up to maximum number of shots, up to maximum range (vehicles would always fire as if stationary).
- May never shoot and assault.

So, for example, a "Rapid Fire 3" Heavy Bolter could fire thrice up to 36" when stationary, or once up to 36" if moving, and could never assault after shooting.

I wanna throw my idea into the hat too:

Rapid fire has 3 modes of fire instead of 2:

12" assault 1
-Final busts and sprays before an assault
12" rapid fire 2
-Concentrated aimed fire at close range
max range heavy 1
-Careful aming and well placed shots at long range.

i dont know if it helps but its definitly an idea.

Found this at BoLS:
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2011/11/goatboy-40k-thoughts-interesting-6th.html

I think my rifle idea is coming true...

Why not just have a Rapid Fire weapon that can only fire once, even if moved?

I like the idea but I dislike the name

hello? did the last two people not check the link I posted?

I did, but shooting twice at a 24" range isn't a rifle type weapon.
Rifles usually are semi-automatic, so they don't fire as quickly as a... Let's say a lasgun.
Rifles just could be the same weapon with +1 strength and limited ammunition or something similiar:

Lasrifle:

Range 24"
Str 4
AP -
Type: Rapid Fire 1 (may only fire once)

Alright, fair point.

I'm not sure I like the confusion of Rapid Fire 1, sluggaslugga. I would suggest dual profiles, like this.

Range 24"
Str 4
AP -
Heavy 1

Range 12"
Str 4
AP -
Assault 1

I like this idea. Very nice. I would suggest 18"£ solid for the rifles. This means it is slightly longer than Assault Weapons or Pistols, generally, but less than Rapid Fire.

I think the best weapon for this would be Splinter Rifles, and shurikan Catapults.