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I was wondering if CSM use drop pods? I don't have the codex so I'm not sure on this. I have never seen or heard of a player using a drop pod for his chaos marines. I am planing on starting up a chaos army, and I really like the idea of using a lot of drop pods.

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/CHAOS-DREADCLAW-ASSAULT-POD.html

Dreadclaws show up quite often in fluff and BFG.
It's just that Gav Thorpe, in his infinite wisdom, didn't see fit to put them in the codex for some reason.

I don't like the look of the dreadclaw, just doesn't seem very chaos-y. I'll just get a normal drop pod and convert it a little bit.

Um, it's covered in blades,spikes and skulls. The very definition of "Chaos".

I have 4, they're awesome (but HUGE).

Maybe they'll add that on the next codex release

Jackster wrote:Dreadclaws show up quite often in fluff and BFG.
It's just that Gav Thorpe, in his infinite wisdom, didn't see fit to put them in the codex for some reason.

Because he felt they weren't something that should be in the Codex he was writing, which was "renegades" with a dash of Legion flavor.

Dreadclaws are ancient pieces of kit. There likely are not too many in existence anymore, but they have one advantage that the standard Astartes Drop Pods do not.
Dreadclaws can recover themselves. They do not need Thunderhawks to come down to the surface to pick them up and bring them back to be refit for another drop, Dreadclaws can actually fire up their engines and bring themselves back up to orbit.

Chaos forces, by and large, do not use drop strikes. They have cultists on the surface who would be willing to open Warp Rifts for them to traverse, and not every major Chaos incursion actually involves ships being used.

Surtur wrote:http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/CHAOS-DREADCLAW-ASSAULT-POD.html

QFT

They don't come up very often. Although they're briefly mentioned in some of the word bearers books.


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bombboy1252 wrote:I don't like the look of the dreadclaw, just doesn't seem very chaos-y. I'll just get a normal drop pod and convert it a little bit.

LOL

Samus_aran115 wrote:

Surtur wrote:http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/CHAOS-DREADCLAW-ASSAULT-POD.html

QFT

They don't come up very often. Although they're briefly mentioned in some of the word bearers books.


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bombboy1252 wrote:I don't like the look of the dreadclaw, just doesn't seem very chaos-y. I'll just get a normal drop pod and convert it a little bit.

LOL

Why the lol?

Because somehow the Dreadclaw, which was made with the express intent of it being a Chaos Space Marine Drop Pod, is "not very chaos-y" yet a normal drop pod with spikes is.

Kanluwen wrote:

Chaos forces, by and large, do not use drop strikes. They have cultists on the surface who would be willing to open Warp Rifts for them to traverse, and not every major Chaos incursion actually involves ships being used.

Well, those Cultists arent in the book either.
Maybe I am just bitter.

Kanluwen wrote:Because somehow the Dreadclaw, which was made with the express intent of it being a Chaos Space Marine Drop Pod, is "not very chaos-y" yet a normal drop pod with spikes is.

I never said I was just going to put spikes on it. I would do more than that, but not "chaos-y" was a bad choice of words....I just don't like the model very much.

Chaos probably has access to both dreadclaws and newer versions of the drop pod since they will probably acquire them from captured Imperial ships and might even salvage them from the battlefield. Furthermore, there's no telling what kind of hardware the Dark Mechanicum might be able to manufacture for them. As for the use of drop pods, I'd wager it depends on the force in question, with some cult forces relying more on warp portals while some like the Iron Warriors are more likely to use the pods.

In DoW2, Chaos Space Marines somehow used ordinary Drop Pods, but it may be non-canon.

Kanluwen wrote:

Jackster wrote:Dreadclaws show up quite often in fluff and BFG.
It's just that Gav Thorpe, in his infinite wisdom, didn't see fit to put them in the codex for some reason.

Because he felt they weren't something that should be in the Codex he was writing, which was "renegades" with a dash of Legion flavor.

Dreadclaws are ancient pieces of kit. There likely are not too many in existence anymore, but they have one advantage that the standard Astartes Drop Pods do not.
Dreadclaws can recover themselves. They do not need Thunderhawks to come down to the surface to pick them up and bring them back to be refit for another drop, Dreadclaws can actually fire up their engines and bring themselves back up to orbit.

Chaos forces, by and large, do not use drop strikes. They have cultists on the surface who would be willing to open Warp Rifts for them to traverse, and not every major Chaos incursion actually involves ships being used.

Where does it say that Dreadclaw drop pods can recover themselves?

Farseer Petriel wrote:In DoW2, Chaos Space Marines somehow used ordinary Drop Pods, but it may be non-canon.

That doesn't mean anything.

They have ordinary Drop Pods. They probably take them from the battlefield whenever they can, but since the Astartes recover them too--it's kind of a wash.

Cheesecat wrote:Where does it say that Dreadclaw drop pods can recover themselves?

Page 157 of The Siege of Vraks Part II.

Kanluwen wrote:

Farseer Petriel wrote:In DoW2, Chaos Space Marines somehow used ordinary Drop Pods, but it may be non-canon.

That doesn't mean anything.

They have ordinary Drop Pods. They probably take them from the battlefield whenever they can, but since the Astartes recover them too--it's kind of a wash.

Cheesecat wrote:Where does it say that Dreadclaw drop pods can recover themselves?

Page 157 of The Siege of Vraks Part II.

Can't they also dig into ship hulls and drill openings?

I thought they had melta charges around the portal to cut into ship hulls. I assumed they were just for boarding actions in space. With the door on the bottom you'd think they'd rather not slam inot the surface of a planet. I've never read the rules of fluff on them. Just the tidbits in BFG.

CSM have drop-pods called Dreadclaws. They are quite rare among renegades, since most of them were destroyed during Horus Heresy. The reason to this was that the machine spirits of the dreadclaws were twistedly intellegent and many "accidents" happened when using them so they were retired, but many were taken with the renegades (most have gone old, or just abandoned due to their dangerous nature). This information was found in one of the IA (cant remember which). Hope this helps

Wouldnt the more recent Renegade Chapters have drop pods? what did they do? Discard them all when they turn traitor for apparently no reason?

Jackster wrote:Wouldnt the more recent Renegade Chapters have drop pods? what did they do? Discard them all when they turn traitor for apparently no reason?

I thought the same thing when I realized chaos didn't have drop pods lol.

Jackster wrote:Wouldnt the more recent Renegade Chapters have drop pods? what did they do? Discard them all when they turn traitor for apparently no reason?

They put all of their jump packs and heavy weapons into them and eject them into space.

Apparently it's symbolic.

CSM have regular drop pods and nearly all Space Marine equipment for that matter despite what gameplay says. They'll loot/take anything from loyalist Astartes they find, and many new chapters have turned to Chaos since the Heresy with their more "modern" equipment.

Dreadclaw is an older kind of Drop Pod that has since been retired from Imperial service, but it's still used by the CSM and is mostly an attempt by GW/FW to give Chaos forces their own identity.

English Assassin wrote:

Jackster wrote:Wouldnt the more recent Renegade Chapters have drop pods? what did they do? Discard them all when they turn traitor for apparently no reason?

They put all of their jump packs and heavy weapons into them and eject them into space.

Apparently it's symbolic.

As well as their Razorbacks, any land raiders that arent godhammer, land speeders and attack bikes.

Harriticus wrote:CSM have regular drop pods and nearly all Space Marine equipment for that matter despite what gameplay says. They'll loot/take anything from loyalist Astartes they find, and many new chapters have turned to Chaos since the Heresy with their more "modern" equipment.

Dreadclaw is an older kind of Drop Pod that has since been retired from Imperial service, but it's still used by the CSM and is mostly an attempt by GW/FW to give Chaos forces their own identity.

Dreadclaws are not Drop Pods.

Dreadclaws are what is called "Assault Boats". The Dreadclaw was an attempt to create a dual-purpose vehicle which could be used for aggressive boarding actions (the hatch where troops disgorge from the Dreadclaw is surrounded by melta cutters, which can slice even an Astartes Battle Barge's hull open like butter) and planetary assaults, with a hope of not requiring.

The end result, however, was not what was hoped for. The Dreadclaw was prone to all kinds of mysterious circumstances, to the point where during the outset of the Horus Heresy--Loyalist captains jettisoned their Dreadclaws.
The standard Drop Pod was in service at the same time, but it was (and still is) a Drop Pod. It has one real role, which is to get you from your point of origin to your point of attack at an absurdly fast speed.

It would make perfect sense to me for CSMs to use drop pods

In the fluff they do have Drop Pods, but they always forget them when it comes to fight.

Justus wrote:In the fluff they do have Drop Pods, but they always forget them when it comes to fight.

Not really.

"In the fluff" they have Drop Pods, but to use Drop Pods requires ships orbiting the planet and the destruction or disabling of defenses dirtside.

The "Renegades" which formed the basis of the most recent Chaos Codex do not generally have methods of meeting every one of those requirements.