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With marines (my first army) they have assault vehicle but i dont see that rule anywhere on orks.

Open Topped Vehicle; check it out in the BGB

Skal098 wrote:With marines (my first army) they have assault vehicle but i dont see that rule anywhere on orks.

Many Ork vehicles are Open-Topped. Check the main rulebook for the Open-Topped rules. It should answer your question.

EDIT: Draigo'd

SIGH..... i hate you all, cause now i have to go a spend a ton of money on ork vehicles. Thank you for the answer though.

Skal098 wrote:SIGH..... i hate you all, cause now i have to go a spend a ton of money on ork vehicles. Thank you for the answer though.

You means smash your Marine vehicles and make them look more orky, right?

Even better, since that charge is typically coming on turn two to three, you can pair it with a disembarkation and a Waaaugh! to get extra movement for your charge. Even better than that, you can add Ghazghkull Thraka to the mix to get an auto 6" run/fleet towards combat.

KilroyKiljoy wrote:

Skal098 wrote:SIGH..... i hate you all, cause now i have to go a spend a ton of money on ork vehicles. Thank you for the answer though.

You means smash your Marine vehicles and make them look more orky, right?

More than likely my Vindicator, that thing has failed me in almost every game ive used it in.

HELLS YES!

Turn 1 - move battlewagons forward (6 for a closing army, 12 for a ranged)

Turn 2 - hop out, move 6'' - Ghaz WAAAGH! (another 6'') - Assault - another 6'' - THWOMP EVERYTHING!

Basically on turn 2 you can assault almost anything on your opponents front lines.

(This is my preferred tactic, sometimes coupling a killkannon on one of the lightly loaded battlewagons. Also you have the orks shooting out of the BWs on your first turn as well as whatever shooty upgrades you got for the wagons themselves.)

DAKKADAKKADAKKADAKKADAKKADAKKADAKKA - 'nuff said.

Remember you have 2'' from the hull and the edge of the base of the model has to be in that area. So you get a free 2.5'' just there

So is the prefered transport battlewagons, looted wagons or trukks?

Do not even mention looted wagons. Though they would not be too bad.

It is about numbers, 5 options.

Foot slogging
tons of trukks
a number of trukks and 2 battlewagons
a few trukks and 3 battlewagons
4 or more battlewagons.

Basically battlewagons are huge targets and trukks are easy targets. Hence the limited options.

How does one go about taking 4 battlewagons?

Not sure what answer you asking for. Dedicated transport for some nobs, 3 heavy choices full of boyz,burnas, take a kff. Then depending on how much support you think you want you suggest the points battle.

Whoops, didnt realize nobz could take one as a dedicated, srry

Battlewagons are solid transports (BW rush is a common competitive build), especially with it's duality of roles. With a deffrolla on front you can both transport large numbers of boyz and smash up vehicles, they're also probably our best answer to AV14.

Trukks suck, but to counter this some builds spam them (with the obligatory KFF mek for cover). Problem is that they can only transport 12 boyz, and 12 boyz are hardly all that fearsome. Despite this they certainly have their uses, for example: I run 2 in my 2k BW list and have them hide out of LOS behind my 4 wagons which helps counter their fragility; I then use them to gang up on units or to intercept units that I don't want to stop a whole battlewagon for.

Don't take looted wagons as a transport, I wouldn't take them as a shooty platform either except for lulz.

Ok so battlewagons battlewagons battlewagons!

Archibald_ Buggerfingers wrote:Battlewagons are solid transports (BW rush is a common competitive build), especially with it's duality of roles. With a deffrolla on front you can both transport large numbers of boyz and smash up vehicles, they're also probably our best answer to AV14.

Trukks suck, but to counter this some builds spam them (with the obligatory KFF mek for cover). Problem is that they can only transport 12 boyz, and 12 boyz are hardly all that fearsome. Despite this they certainly have their uses, for example: I run 2 in my 2k BW list and have them hide out of LOS behind my 4 wagons which helps counter their fragility; I then use them to gang up on units or to intercept units that I don't want to stop a whole battlewagon for.

Don't take looted wagons as a transport, I wouldn't take them as a shooty platform either except for lulz.

I'd just like to point out a common misconception here. Of course a single unit of trukk boyz doesn't do much. That's whay you send two at a target. Six trukks of boyz and three trukks of MANz will leave you with more models available for assault than a battlewagon bash, and twice the number of claws. Sadly, that army dies really hard to massed S5+ fire which quite a bunch of armies are able to field, like eldar, IG, GK or SW.

A single trukk is underwhelming. Multiple Trukks are great. Keep then under a KFF in turn 1, and they are fantastic.

A very large part of Orks is giving your opponent far too many threats to shoot at, and by extension eroding their moral when they've either (a) diluted their fire too much to kill anything during their turn, or (b) focus fired and only killed one of the many threats during their turn. Multiple Trukks (three or more) are an amazing asset to this - especially if they have a KFF to negate even the heaviest fire.

Oh. And Trukks are fast. 13" movement (with the red paint upgrade), 2" disembark, and 6" assault means that each trukk has a 21" threat radius. Combine that with a flat out move of 19" in turn 1, by the end of turn 2 your boyz can have moved and assaulted a target initially 40" away.

Though, I tend to have them move in a more reserved manner if necessary in turn 1, so that they keep under the KFF umbrella, before they dart off to unload their mob in turn 2.

Trukks that have disgorged their cargo are also fantastic for disruption. That 19" move allows them to push into enemy units with various results depending on your intention - blocking enemy LOS, forcing units into your LOS, potentially running units off the table, or even dealing a strength 8 ram against a vehicle if you get a strong enough run up.

Skal098 wrote:Whoops, didnt realize nobz could take one as a dedicated, srry

yea, you could do some crazy bw lists (ie way to many wagons)

bw kitted w/ rolla rpj 2 shootas and plates 135
HQ
2 plain warbosses 60 points each
Elite
3xnobz 60
bw kitted w/ rolla rpj 2 shootas and plates 135
3xnobz 60
bw kitted w/ rolla rpj 2 shootas and plates 135
3xnobz 60
bw kitted w/ rolla rpj 2 shootas and plates 135

troops
3xnobz 60
bw kitted w/ rolla rpj 2 shootas and plates 135
3xnobz 60
bw kitted w/ rolla rpj 2 shootas and plates 135

heavy support
bw kitted w/ rolla rpj 2 shootas and plates 135
bw kitted w/ rolla rpj 2 shootas and plates 135
bw kitted w/ rolla rpj 2 shootas and plates 135

8 battlewagons at 1500 points even

Skal098 wrote:Ok so battlewagons battlewagons battlewagons!

I prefer lots of trukks.

Saves points for more boyz, and I like the ramshackle rule.

So many BW.

OP:

Check out some of my battle reports in my signature - they're picture intensive and tactically complete. I typically run three battlewagons and one trukk - the trukk using the battlewagons to hide, with it's role being support for the contents of one of the battlewagons as needed.

Warboss Fugnutz wrote:Turn 1 - move battlewagons forward (6 for a closing army, 12 for a ranged)

Turn 2 - hop out, move 6'' - Ghaz WAAAGH! (another 6'') - Assault - another 6'' - THWOMP EVERYTHING!

You aren't forced to stay stationary in turn 2; you can move up to twelve and still get out and assault. In fact in the right cases you could get a turn one assault.

Ahhhh got to love open topped vehicles for ease of getting stuck in.