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So someone explain something to me, I thought Wikileaks was supposed to be a neutral orginization that was supposed to release dirt on everyone, but it seems like they're just being an attack piece against Hillary, leaking those 'conveniently' Russian obtained emails from the DNC and nothing about Trump or his taxes.

Wikileaks controlled by/colluding with Russia at this point? I know Assange has a personal beef against Hillary.

 Ouze wrote:
Glenn Beck has said that Hillary Clinton is a moral, ethical choice for President.

After Ted Cruz lost and he rubbed cheetos on his face, I expected as such.

 WrentheFaceless wrote:
So someone explain something to me, I thought Wikileaks was supposed to be a neutral orginization ...

Nah, they're really just another media site, doing whatever it takes to get the page views for the revenue.

 Ouze wrote:

 Breotan wrote:
I'll still vote Trump because SCOTUS is far too important to me not to.

Sure, he seems like he has pretty good judgement, so why not?

Judge Judy for Supreme Court!

So Trump is tweeting that he is happy that his shackles have been taken off, and that he can now campaign like he wants to.

I'm glad that we have only seen this shackled Trump tanking his own campaign. I'm looking forward to seeing him spiral out of control.

Who did he fire this time?

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Who did he fire this time?

everyone at his trump casino in atlanta

apparently he's such a horrible negotiator and can't even hire a decent one to negotiate with their union to keep a casino open. He'd rather fire everyone than pay a living wage.

 gorgon wrote:

 Vash108 wrote:

 jasper76 wrote:
Did anyone notice how Trump came to Russia's defence (again) in the second debate. Intelligence seems firm that the Russians were the source of the hack, when confronted about this in the debate, Trump said something like "we don't know the Russians did this. We don't even know there was a hack."

Why?

I noticed that as well. Going to go out on a limb here and say the Secretary of State may know where the attacks came from.

'

An article I read quoted an intelligence official saying that both candidates were briefed on the hack, and that there should be no lack of clarity about the matter.

At this point there's no doubt that Trump is Putin's man.

Apparently his Daughter has gone on Vacation with Putins Girlfriend before?

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/ivanka-trump-is-sight-seeing-in-croatia-with-bff-vladimir-putins-girlfriend/

*looking for another source of this as well*

 d-usa wrote:
So Trump is tweeting that he is happy that his shackles have been taken off, and that he can now campaign like he wants to.

I'm glad that we have only seen this shackled Trump tanking his own campaign. I'm looking forward to seeing him spiral out of control.

So this past year has been restrained Trump? Jebus.

 WrentheFaceless wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
So Trump is tweeting that he is happy that his shackles have been taken off, and that he can now campaign like he wants to.

I'm glad that we have only seen this shackled Trump tanking his own campaign. I'm looking forward to seeing him spiral out of control.

So this past year has been restrained Trump? Jebus.

I really hope he goes completely off the chain. I want every single one of those somehow still undecided voters...*sigh* ...to see, once and for all, what's behind all the vitriol and foulness that oozes from this human canker every day.

 WrentheFaceless wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
So Trump is tweeting that he is happy that his shackles have been taken off, and that he can now campaign like he wants to.

I'm glad that we have only seen this shackled Trump tanking his own campaign. I'm looking forward to seeing him spiral out of control.

So this past year has been restrained Trump? Jebus.

Well, obviously we have a Trump in this election. He's loading up on tic-tacs, he's snatchin' yo votes up, tryin' to steal 'em. So y'all need to hide yo daughters, hide yo wife, and hide yo thang on the side, cause he grabbin' everybody's pu**y out here

Such was my horror, I managed to double post.

Damnable technology.

 Ouze wrote:
Glenn Beck has said that Hillary Clinton is a moral, ethical choice for President.

I didn't take Frazzled's advice and read another Breitbart article and it's comments

I'm hoping for an overwhelming rejection of Trump in the voting booth to signal to Republican Primary voters that if they want any skin in the game, they have to nominate a decent human being for the office.

 jasper76 wrote:
I'm hoping for an overwhelming rejection of Trump in the voting booth to signal to Republican Primary voters that if they want any skin in the game, they have to nominate a decent human being for the office.

Whilst we would hope that they would take that away as the lesson learned, we cannot discount the possibility that they instead resort to thinking that Trump just wasn't terrible enough.

 Mozzyfuzzy wrote:
Such was my horror, I managed to double post.

Damnable technology.

 Ouze wrote:
Glenn Beck has said that Hillary Clinton is a moral, ethical choice for President.

I didn't take Frazzled's advice and read another Breitbart article and it's comments

Thats bad. Also stay away from Townhall and NewMax. NewsMax is just hideous.
Townhall is good if you want to watch the civil war between the Republicans in real time, but otherwise stay away.

I just had a horrible thought, I think a way for trump to get back on top and actually give himself a chance to win would be during the next debate bring Jill Harth (the woman he repeated groped) and formally admit what he did was wrong and sincerely apologize to her. Bonus points for bring on the others we don't know about and donating to a legitimate womans charity. Not a charity he invented like he did with the vets.

I think that alone would keep more republicans from fleeing his cause and bring in the swing voters.

 A Town Called Malus wrote:

 jasper76 wrote:
I'm hoping for an overwhelming rejection of Trump in the voting booth to signal to Republican Primary voters that if they want any skin in the game, they have to nominate a decent human being for the office.

Whilst we would hope that they would take that away as the lesson learned, we cannot discount the possibility that they instead resort to thinking that Trump just wasn't terrible enough.

It seems like their MO. Why change when you can double down?

 Ouze wrote:
Glenn Beck has said that Hillary Clinton is a moral, ethical choice for President.

He's said some crazy things in his time but this might take the cake.

sirlynchmob wrote:
I just had a horrible thought, I think a way for trump to get back on top and actually give himself a chance to win would be during the next debate bring Jill Harth (the woman he repeated groped) and formally admit what he did was wrong and sincerely apologize to her. Bonus points for bring on the others we don't know about and donating to a legitimate womans charity. Not a charity he invented like he did with the vets.

I think that alone would keep more republicans from fleeing his cause and bring in the swing voters.

Why should she go to the debate, though?

Donald: "Would you come to the debate so I can apologize to you in front of everyone? It will be great for my campaign. Super great."

Jill: "Go feth yourself with an elephant's dick."

And throwing money at a charity? Not enough to swing any anti-Trumper at this point.

 kronk wrote:

sirlynchmob wrote:
I just had a horrible thought, I think a way for trump to get back on top and actually give himself a chance to win would be during the next debate bring Jill Harth (the woman he repeated groped) and formally admit what he did was wrong and sincerely apologize to her. Bonus points for bring on the others we don't know about and donating to a legitimate womans charity. Not a charity he invented like he did with the vets.

I think that alone would keep more republicans from fleeing his cause and bring in the swing voters.

Why should she go to the debate, though?

Donald: "Would you come to the debate so I can apologize to you in front of everyone? It will be great for my campaign. Super great."

Jill: "Go feth yourself with an elephant's dick."

And throwing money at a charity? Not enough to swing any anti-Trumper at this point.

it's not to sway the anti-trumpers, it's to sway the undecideds. I never said it would be easy for him to do so, but it would resonate well with his base.

So....all these Republicans ditching Trump. I wonder if this will work out to their advantage or disadvantage. At least they are showing some spine.

 A Town Called Malus wrote:

 jasper76 wrote:
I'm hoping for an overwhelming rejection of Trump in the voting booth to signal to Republican Primary voters that if they want any skin in the game, they have to nominate a decent human being for the office.

Whilst we would hope that they would take that away as the lesson learned, we cannot discount the possibility that they instead resort to thinking that Trump just wasn't terrible enough.

Unless the GOP is equally punished down ballot as well, the only lesson that will be learned from this is just "same gak, different person". I mean, GOP policies are also a problem, but if the voters reject only Trump, then they're just saying they want the same crap, but just with a different face on it.

As far as that Glenn Beck thing goes, I wish he could at least have said something actually constructive for good political discourse in this country. But, no, just "elect Hillary because she can be fought". You know what else you could do with Hillary in office? You could actually try working and reasoning with her. But, that would be politically constructive and be called good governance, something the ranting right wing talking heads have been fighting against for years even before Obama was elected.

http://secondnexus.com/politics-and-economics/wikileaks-falsified-documents-trump-russia/?utm_content=inf_10_1164_2&tse_id=INF_cd0644708fc811e6b6db4d0235f40af5

So apparently trump alluded to a falsified report that was only reported in Russia and has refused to explain. So either he's got a keen eye on the Russian press or he's being fed information. Since he refuses to implicate the Russians in the hacking stuff despite intelligence agencies briefing him, he seems quite cosy. Aren't you guys still terrified of communism?

It's not going to phase anyone still in the Trump camp - and, frankly, a bunch of them are going to wave it around like it's the unvarnished truth.

For everyone else, it goes on the long list of reasons not to vote for him.

Why are there still undecided voters? Ken Bone and that really tired-looking guy who asked if they had anything nice to say to each other get a pass, but I really want to know what's going on with anyone else who's still on the fence.

 Spinner wrote:
It's not going to phase anyone still in the Trump camp - and, frankly, a bunch of them are going to wave it around like it's the unvarnished truth.

For everyone else, it goes on the long list of reasons not to vote for him.

Why are there still undecided voters? Ken Bone and that really tired-looking guy who asked if they had anything nice to say to each other get a pass, but I really want to know what's going on with anyone else who's still on the fence.

I think most people who claim to be undecided at this point are full of gak and just want attention.

 kronk wrote:

 Ouze wrote:

 Breotan wrote:
I'll still vote Trump because SCOTUS is far too important to me not to.

Sure, he seems like he has pretty good judgement, so why not?

Judge Judy for Supreme Court!

I told someone recently that while I want no part of a Trump presidency, I'd love to be able to peek into an alternate universe where that happened. Because it'd be absolutely BONKERS.

 d-usa wrote:
So Trump is tweeting that he is happy that his shackles have been taken off, and that he can now campaign like he wants to.

I'm glad that we have only seen this shackled Trump tanking his own campaign. I'm looking forward to seeing him spiral out of control.

The "Burn it Down™" crowd is getting their wish!

 jasper76 wrote:
So....all these Republicans ditching Trump. I wonder if this will work out to their advantage or disadvantage. At least they are showing some spine.

Showing spine would be not supporting that pushead in the first place. The rats jumping off his burning ship now are doing so to save their weaselly hides.

Yeah, if they had spines, they wouldn't be bailing now.

 jasper76 wrote:

 Spinner wrote:
It's not going to phase anyone still in the Trump camp - and, frankly, a bunch of them are going to wave it around like it's the unvarnished truth.

For everyone else, it goes on the long list of reasons not to vote for him.

Why are there still undecided voters? Ken Bone and that really tired-looking guy who asked if they had anything nice to say to each other get a pass, but I really want to know what's going on with anyone else who's still on the fence.

I think most people who claim to be undecided at this point are full of gak and just want attention.

Like Red Sweater guy?