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Hi Folks

So I am having real problems choosing a SM chapter... I'm looking for to 2 things

Easy to paint(Which I have created a seperate thread for)
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/404279.page

and of course good fluff!

So Im looking for an established chapter! my playing style is very full frontal assault! I like termys and tough HQ'S, I cannot relate to any of this hit and run milarky... I want tough, stern marines that mean business and have some real good fluff to back it up...
I know its asking a lot but if anyone could help me I would be very grateful! thank you in advance

DA or IF. Good termies, tough HQ's etc.

Salamanders would also work.

Aurora Chapter.
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Aurora_Chapter#.TpsFu-v2J0s

Soladrin wrote:DA or IF. Good termies, tough HQ's etc.

Salamanders would also work.

DA are a good possibility! really like their fluff and Imperial Fists are great! I love them but Isnt painting yellow a nightmare?

Coolyo294 wrote:Aurora Chapter.
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Aurora_Chapter#.TpsFu-v2J0s

Like these guys! its a great possibilty.

many thanks

mm, I second both the posts above.

Have you considered a Dark Angels Deathwing army?

Full Frontal assault? Blood Angels! Stick your terminators in a land raider and then... wait for it.... you may deep strike said LR! Happy days!

EDIT: Oh and tough HQs? Mephiston, 'nuff said!

1) List a bunch of space marine chapters

2) number them from top to bottom, starting with "1"

3) roll 2d6 or 3d6 (depending on how many chapters you have listed

4) pick chapter according to what you rolled on 2(3)d6

5) Thank the dice gods for giving you the chapter you were born to have.

That's how I make most of my choices in life.

If you want codex chapters, The Astral Claws and Minotaurs (expansively detailed in Imperial Armour IX and X) both supposedly favour all-out frontal assaults. From their background, the Imperial Fists and their descendants (Black Templars, Soul Drinkers, etc.) likewise favour such tactics.

Do a deathwing Dark Angel army.

Super easy to paint and they are basically all Terminators.

Also the fluff is really cool and if you want to go the extra hog you can get upgrade kits, if I was going to do a none vanilla list it would definitely be DA.

Black Templars or Dark angels

Black templars are melee oriented

While Dark angels are very shooty

Carcharodon Astra Chapter, Carcharadons for shot (or Space Sharks for the plebs), favour brutal assaults and close combat.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Space_Sharks#.SKeKOpstMyo

Their Chapter Master combines hard HQ and Terminator, and you can't get much harder than Tyberos.

Space Wolves

Grimnar can take terminators as troops and everything and its brother can seriously face punch.

Awesome hero's? Frontal assault? Termies? Fluff? Space wolves got you covered.

Go read up on the fluff bits on the chapters you are looking at, look at their colors. Pick the one you like best. The rest can be made to work as required.

Aurora chapter, Imperial fists (Doubly so for the imperial fists, actually. A wall of shield terminators backed up by land raiders and vindicators is EXACTLY the kind of thing I would expect from them.) Black templars to an extent, but for lack of a better way to describe the difference between them and the IFs is that the templars have enough "ZEAL LOL!" involved that you can't really tell if their unrelenting belligerence and stubborn manner is indoctrinated or built in, at least to me. Space wolves I don't really think fit as well, as they are perfectly willing to sneak around and cut throats. Same with the DA. Too much shadowy business going on with them, also, the BTs want to talk about their missing ship.

Yes, painting yellow can be an absolute nightmare. Don't let that stop you though. I have seen a couple IF armies that have made me envious. My advice would be to start with WHITE primer (God black primer makes this a nightmare.) and use a wash or something to darken the yellow after you are done. After having painted a couple IFs myself they always wound up looking like marshmellow peep easter candies because the yellow was so bright.

I play Aurora chapter myself, and I gotta say, I love the paint scheme. Green is a favorite color of mine, so the army just looks great.

Here are some links to a few of the terminators i've painted -
http://www.bcadeptus.com/gallery/albums/uploads/8-1-2009/BCadeptus_157.JPG

And here are some assault marines -
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7614/0929090731b.jpg

They look really good on the tabletop.



Also, another huge bonus of doing an Ultramarines Successor chapter is that you can assume they are following the codex very strictly... thus you can assume they would field a 1st company of mostly terminators, and an 8th company of all assault marines. This means that you can paint blood angels and deathwing armies as Aurora Chapter, and just say your using those rules to represent a specific company of the chapter. Thus, you can have 3 different armies (Codex Marines, Blood Angels, and Deathwing), all with the same color scheme, and have legit fluff reasons for doing so. It means you can slowly work towards a huge apoc army while building different armies.

Yes the Fists can be a nightmare to paint. Same with Deathwing, if you want them to look right.

But don't be put off by that. This might be heresy, but I really think you could do Imperial Fists or Deathwing, and easily, if you are willing to...

.. to dip.

http://www.thearmypainter.com/gallery_presentation.php?GalleryId=96&Gallery=Imperial%20Fist&page=1

Just use Army Painter or something similar. Prime your models in the correct primer color (yellow for Fists, or bone white for Deathwing). Then paint on any other details, such as metal bits, flesh colors, iconography, etc. Then dip/brush on the quickshade. Drybrush as needed afterwards to bring back any highlights. Then clear coat. It's not as hard as it sounds, in fact it can be done quite quickly, and with practice it can look even better than Army Painter's examples (a lot better in most cases).

Just thought I'd put that out there. It's the only way I'd ever even consider doing an all-yellow army.

Raven Guard or Iron Hands for sure in the easier to paint department.

Grey knights would be easy to paint i think. and they have termies as troops choice if i remember correctly.

Raven Guard have cool fluff and are easy to paint.

I'm ready for the flak from this... Ultramarines.
Strong heroes? Yep, they don't get much stronger.
Terminators? Can have a lot, they're first founding.
Good fluff? Tons of the stuff.
Easy to paint? Yes indeed.

Just do what I used to used to do if you feel a bit too much like you're following a band wagon, paint a different company that 2nd, use a darker blue and varnish, do some minor conversion work on 1+ models per squad, or any of the above.

It works a treat and gives an army that people envy. So yeah, Ultramarines are a good bet.

Auroras are good.

What I did for my chapter (Fire Lords) was to look through the "small" chapters on the list in C:SM, choose one that would give me an interesting playstyle and a nice deal of free reign, and pickedit.

My vote is for the Ultramarines. Great color and the fluff isn't too bad.

If you like Termies do DA or BT, and their fluff is there and really fun to read up on as well. SW have great fluff, termies work fine and if they are with Grimnar they are used as a troop choice which will add some power behind your punch. Tons of nilla SM, look them up as well if you really want to know it all, but it might take you a couple of weeks...

Yeah dont go near IF man...

I just painted 5 termies and 10 SM. Took me fething ages, I had to do about 12 coats to get the yellow looking right.

Go for someone black!

BT or RG maybe?

bombboy1252 wrote:1) List a bunch of space marine chapters

2) number them from top to bottom, starting with "1"

3) roll 2d6 or 3d6 (depending on how many chapters you have listed

4) pick chapter according to what you rolled on 2(3)d6

5) Thank the dice gods for giving you the chapter you were born to have.

Thanks this seems like a good idea though wouldn't you start with '2' ?

SOFDC wrote:Go read up on the fluff bits on the chapters you are looking at, look at their colors. Pick the one you like best. The rest can be made to work as required.

Aurora chapter, Imperial fists (Doubly so for the imperial fists, actually. A wall of shield terminators backed up by land raiders and vindicators is EXACTLY the kind of thing I would expect from them.) Black templars to an extent, but for lack of a better way to describe the difference between them and the IFs is that the templars have enough "ZEAL LOL!" involved that you can't really tell if their unrelenting belligerence and stubborn manner is indoctrinated or built in, at least to me. Space wolves I don't really think fit as well, as they are perfectly willing to sneak around and cut throats. Same with the DA. Too much shadowy business going on with them, also, the BTs want to talk about their missing ship.

Yes, painting yellow can be an absolute nightmare. Don't let that stop you though. I have seen a couple IF armies that have made me envious. My advice would be to start with WHITE primer (God black primer makes this a nightmare.) and use a wash or something to darken the yellow after you are done. After having painted a couple IFs myself they always wound up looking like marshmellow peep easter candies because the yellow was so bright.

This has given me a lot to think about and is full of stuff I didn't know so a special thanks to you for the time and effort you have put into this post!

Horst wrote:I play Aurora chapter myself, and I gotta say, I love the paint scheme. Green is a favorite color of mine, so the army just looks great.

Here are some links to a few of the terminators i've painted -
http://www.bcadeptus.com/gallery/albums/uploads/8-1-2009/BCadeptus_157.JPG

And here are some assault marines -
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7614/0929090731b.jpg

They look really good on the tabletop.



Also, another huge bonus of doing an Ultramarines Successor chapter is that you can assume they are following the codex very strictly... thus you can assume they would field a 1st company of mostly terminators, and an 8th company of all assault marines. This means that you can paint blood angels and deathwing armies as Aurora Chapter, and just say your using those rules to represent a specific company of the chapter. Thus, you can have 3 different armies (Codex Marines, Blood Angels, and Deathwing), all with the same color scheme, and have legit fluff reasons for doing so. It means you can slowly work towards a huge apoc army while building different armies.

Really nice job on those AM and a very great way to look at the 3 army's thing... And believe it or not the fact that blood angels are easy to paint and may suit my playing style has come up a lot in another of my threads
Thanks to you for the time and effort you have put into this my friend

CalgarsPimpHand wrote:Yes the Fists can be a nightmare to paint. Same with Deathwing, if you want them to look right.

But don't be put off by that. This might be heresy, but I really think you could do Imperial Fists or Deathwing, and easily, if you are willing to...

.. to dip.

http://www.thearmypainter.com/gallery_presentation.php?GalleryId=96&Gallery=Imperial%20Fist&page=1

Just use Army Painter or something similar. Prime your models in the correct primer color (yellow for Fists, or bone white for Deathwing). Then paint on any other details, such as metal bits, flesh colors, iconography, etc. Then dip/brush on the quickshade. Drybrush as needed afterwards to bring back any highlights. Then clear coat. It's not as hard as it sounds, in fact it can be done quite quickly, and with practice it can look even better than Army Painter's examples (a lot better in most cases).

Just thought I'd put that out there. It's the only way I'd ever even consider doing an all-yellow army.

This is a great suggestion, I'll spend a little time weighing the pros and cons of dipping and I'll let you know Many thanks

BLOODCLAWallday wrote:If you like Termies do DA or BT, and their fluff is there and really fun to read up on as well. SW have great fluff, termies work fine and if they are with Grimnar they are used as a troop choice which will add some power behind your punch. Tons of nilla SM, look them up as well if you really want to know it all, but it might take you a couple of weeks...

I agree SW fluff is superb so I'm looking further into there codex to see if I like the way they play thanks buddy!

Auroras a Great chapter to paint do them. Barely anyone paints them

Asherian Command wrote:Auroras a Great chapter to paint do them. Barely anyone paints them

I pop a few blood vessels anyone sees my army, and goes, "OHHH, SALAMANDERS!"

No. I spent a LOT of time making sure every single model has the Aurora Chapter logo painted on it, and they don't have black shoulder plates.

Never really liked salamanders! but Im warming to blood angels! I take it they are very common?

E40KG

If you want to try out some paint schemes then the painters on the B&C are good:

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.php?autocom=pages&do=show&id=1