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Actually as much as I'm a Nurgle guy maybe I'll see about starting 1000 of these guys. I really like the Ogroid Thaumaturge already and the new disc riders look sick.

I just really hope all those new units and weapon variants will receive Silver Tower rules!

Requizen wrote:
Actually as much as I'm a Nurgle guy maybe I'll see about starting 1000 of these guys. I really like the Ogroid Thaumaturge already and the new disc riders look sick.

Also he has a goatee in the image where he is melting the stormcast eternal. Honestly I am going to start this army tzeentch was my first introduction to warhammer.

Requizen wrote:
Actually as much as I'm a Nurgle guy maybe I'll see about starting 1000 of these guys. I really like the Ogroid Thaumaturge already and the new disc riders look sick.

Nooooo. Stay on the path of life-death-decay-life! Change: not even once!

That vulture would look way better in muddy colours and attached to a Nurgle model, too I will haave to liberate one or two from the evil master of lies.

I do hope there are more human models with this release. I like the Tzaangors, but my plan is to build an army of Chaos mortals for each god.

Those look lovely, to bad the heroic scale make the cultists unusable to me.

 EnTyme wrote:
I do hope there are more human models with this release. I like the Tzaangors, but my plan is to build an army of Chaos mortals for each god.

Considering slaves to darkness can take mark of tzeentch they should be able to use the book. Hell many people on the grand alliance community suspect that they are bringing everything tzeentch aligned into one tome instead of tzeentch "mortal" or "daemon" it will just focus on the tzeentch keyword which slaves to darkness can easily take.

Someone noted that they said on the stream this would be a new "take" on battletomes they are calling it "disciples of tzeentch" instead of tzeentch Arcanites for a reason and I suspect this is the reason why we haven't seen a Death battletome yet since both Death and tzeentch suffered from similar problems. I think Death if theories are correct will be based on this format. Since tzeentch suffered from not being able to use magic and their formations, summoning and battleline issues along with synergy problems just like Death.

Well, Definitely going to have to get thru my Ironjawz and Sylvaneth in record time so I can build these beauties. I'm excited!!!

 shinros wrote:

 EnTyme wrote:
I do hope there are more human models with this release. I like the Tzaangors, but my plan is to build an army of Chaos mortals for each god.

Considering slaves to darkness can take mark of tzeentch they should be able to use the book. Hell many people on the grand alliance community suspect that they are bringing everything tzeentch aligned into one tome instead of tzeentch "mortal" or "daemon" it will just focus on the tzeentch keyword which slaves to darkness can easily take.

Someone noted that they said on the stream this would be a new "take" on battletomes they are calling it "disciples of tzeentch" instead of tzeentch Arcanites for a reason and I suspect this is the reason why we haven't seen a Death battletome yet since both Death and tzeentch suffered from similar problems. I think Death if theories are correct will be based on this format. Since tzeentch suffered from not being able to use magic and their formations, summoning and battleline issues along with synergy problems just like Death.

I'm hoping for a more specialized unit like the difference between a Chaos Marauder and a Kairoc Acolyte. Specifically, I'd like to see a magic-focused Chaos Warrior. Khorne Bloodbound have their equivalents in the Bloodreavers and Blood Warriors.

I do think that they are going to change the way Battletomes work, especially for Chaos. Even though there is a book entitled Battletome: Khorne Bloodbound, there isn't a "Bloodbound" keyword and no Allegiance: Khorne Bloodbound. I actually like it this way. It means I can have a legal army consisting of a Brass Stampede from Khorne Bloodbound and a Ruinbringer Warband from Slaves to Darkness with everything having the same allegiance (Khorne Mortal). Hopefully, I'll be able to do something similar with the other 3 Chaos gods (sorry, Horned Rat. No one likes you) once their mortal forces are fleshed out better.

 EnTyme wrote:

 shinros wrote:

 EnTyme wrote:
I do hope there are more human models with this release. I like the Tzaangors, but my plan is to build an army of Chaos mortals for each god.

Considering slaves to darkness can take mark of tzeentch they should be able to use the book. Hell many people on the grand alliance community suspect that they are bringing everything tzeentch aligned into one tome instead of tzeentch "mortal" or "daemon" it will just focus on the tzeentch keyword which slaves to darkness can easily take.

Someone noted that they said on the stream this would be a new "take" on battletomes they are calling it "disciples of tzeentch" instead of tzeentch Arcanites for a reason and I suspect this is the reason why we haven't seen a Death battletome yet since both Death and tzeentch suffered from similar problems. I think Death if theories are correct will be based on this format. Since tzeentch suffered from not being able to use magic and their formations, summoning and battleline issues along with synergy problems just like Death.

I'm hoping for a more specialized unit like the difference between a Chaos Marauder and a Kairoc Acolyte. Specifically, I'd like to see a magic-focused Chaos Warrior. Khorne Bloodbound have their equivalents in the Bloodreavers and Blood Warriors.

I do think that they are going to change the way Battletomes work, especially for Chaos. Even though there is a book entitled Battletome: Khorne Bloodbound, there isn't a "Bloodbound" keyword and no Allegiance: Khorne Bloodbound. I actually like it this way. It means I can have a legal army consisting of a Brass Stampede from Khorne Bloodbound and a Ruinbringer Warband from Slaves to Darkness with everything having the same allegiance (Khorne Mortal). Hopefully, I'll be able to do something similar with the other 3 Chaos gods (sorry, Horned Rat. No one likes you) once their mortal forces are fleshed out better.

With the second edition of the general handbook coming out next year we will see the direction the game will go down towards many people going by the facebook post have problems how battleline is handled with certain factions like Death and tzeentch being the main offenders along with summoning and magic and lack of synergy. They want things to be more "Open". I can easily see them folding in the wanderer's with the sylvaneth(example) if the theories are true that it's going to be a "tzeentch" allegiance book. Since it's called "Disciplines of tzeentch" it's a very open term instead of "Tzeentch Arcanites" I feel.

You have humans, beastmen and possibly(high likely) daemons together in one book. Along with the slaves to darkness exploiting that I mean chaos warriors marked with khorne can still benefit from the newer khorne blood bound abilities and your slave to darkness wizard will most likely adore the spell lores coming in this book.

We will just have to wait and see.

 EnTyme wrote:

 shinros wrote:

 EnTyme wrote:
I do hope there are more human models with this release. I like the Tzaangors, but my plan is to build an army of Chaos mortals for each god.

Considering slaves to darkness can take mark of tzeentch they should be able to use the book. Hell many people on the grand alliance community suspect that they are bringing everything tzeentch aligned into one tome instead of tzeentch "mortal" or "daemon" it will just focus on the tzeentch keyword which slaves to darkness can easily take.

Someone noted that they said on the stream this would be a new "take" on battletomes they are calling it "disciples of tzeentch" instead of tzeentch Arcanites for a reason and I suspect this is the reason why we haven't seen a Death battletome yet since both Death and tzeentch suffered from similar problems. I think Death if theories are correct will be based on this format. Since tzeentch suffered from not being able to use magic and their formations, summoning and battleline issues along with synergy problems just like Death.

I'm hoping for a more specialized unit like the difference between a Chaos Marauder and a Kairoc Acolyte. Specifically, I'd like to see a magic-focused Chaos Warrior. Khorne Bloodbound have their equivalents in the Bloodreavers and Blood Warriors.

I do think that they are going to change the way Battletomes work, especially for Chaos. Even though there is a book entitled Battletome: Khorne Bloodbound, there isn't a "Bloodbound" keyword and no Allegiance: Khorne Bloodbound. I actually like it this way. It means I can have a legal army consisting of a Brass Stampede from Khorne Bloodbound and a Ruinbringer Warband from Slaves to Darkness with everything having the same allegiance (Khorne Mortal). Hopefully, I'll be able to do something similar with the other 3 Chaos gods (sorry, Horned Rat. No one likes you) once their mortal forces are fleshed out better.

Considering that the Silver Tower acolyte's throw warp flames, and are boosted in that by having a Sorcerer nearby, they are pretty different.

What a nice set of new miniatures. AoS keeps going stronger and stronger.

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

 EnTyme wrote:

 shinros wrote:

 EnTyme wrote:
I do hope there are more human models with this release. I like the Tzaangors, but my plan is to build an army of Chaos mortals for each god.

Considering slaves to darkness can take mark of tzeentch they should be able to use the book. Hell many people on the grand alliance community suspect that they are bringing everything tzeentch aligned into one tome instead of tzeentch "mortal" or "daemon" it will just focus on the tzeentch keyword which slaves to darkness can easily take.

Someone noted that they said on the stream this would be a new "take" on battletomes they are calling it "disciples of tzeentch" instead of tzeentch Arcanites for a reason and I suspect this is the reason why we haven't seen a Death battletome yet since both Death and tzeentch suffered from similar problems. I think Death if theories are correct will be based on this format. Since tzeentch suffered from not being able to use magic and their formations, summoning and battleline issues along with synergy problems just like Death.

I'm hoping for a more specialized unit like the difference between a Chaos Marauder and a Kairoc Acolyte. Specifically, I'd like to see a magic-focused Chaos Warrior. Khorne Bloodbound have their equivalents in the Bloodreavers and Blood Warriors.

I do think that they are going to change the way Battletomes work, especially for Chaos. Even though there is a book entitled Battletome: Khorne Bloodbound, there isn't a "Bloodbound" keyword and no Allegiance: Khorne Bloodbound. I actually like it this way. It means I can have a legal army consisting of a Brass Stampede from Khorne Bloodbound and a Ruinbringer Warband from Slaves to Darkness with everything having the same allegiance (Khorne Mortal). Hopefully, I'll be able to do something similar with the other 3 Chaos gods (sorry, Horned Rat. No one likes you) once their mortal forces are fleshed out better.

Considering that the Silver Tower acolyte's throw warp flames, and are boosted in that by having a Sorcerer nearby, they are pretty different.

Maybe I'm not articulating my point. I want more units like the Kairoc Acolytes. Here is what I mean:

Khorne Bloodbound is the tome for Khorne's mortal followers. This army has several units that are basically murder/death/kill themed versions of some Slaves to Darkness units. The Bloodreavers are Khorne Marauders turned up to 11. The Blood Warriors are Khorne Chaos Warriors turned up to 11. I would like to see the same treatment given the Tzeentch, Nurgle, and Slaanesh when their mortal armies are expanded. For Tzeentch, I like that we already have a Tzeentch Marauder unit set to 11 in the Kairoc Acolytes. I want to see the rest of the Arcanites faction fleshed out in a similar way to how Khorne's mortals were. What I do not want is "give Slaves to Darkness models the Tzeentch keyward and you'll get X". I want more thought put into it. Tzaangors are cool, but I'm hoping they aren't the only new Tzeentch models in the book.

 EnTyme wrote:

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

 EnTyme wrote:

 shinros wrote:

 EnTyme wrote:
I do hope there are more human models with this release. I like the Tzaangors, but my plan is to build an army of Chaos mortals for each god.

Considering slaves to darkness can take mark of tzeentch they should be able to use the book. Hell many people on the grand alliance community suspect that they are bringing everything tzeentch aligned into one tome instead of tzeentch "mortal" or "daemon" it will just focus on the tzeentch keyword which slaves to darkness can easily take.

Someone noted that they said on the stream this would be a new "take" on battletomes they are calling it "disciples of tzeentch" instead of tzeentch Arcanites for a reason and I suspect this is the reason why we haven't seen a Death battletome yet since both Death and tzeentch suffered from similar problems. I think Death if theories are correct will be based on this format. Since tzeentch suffered from not being able to use magic and their formations, summoning and battleline issues along with synergy problems just like Death.

I'm hoping for a more specialized unit like the difference between a Chaos Marauder and a Kairoc Acolyte. Specifically, I'd like to see a magic-focused Chaos Warrior. Khorne Bloodbound have their equivalents in the Bloodreavers and Blood Warriors.

I do think that they are going to change the way Battletomes work, especially for Chaos. Even though there is a book entitled Battletome: Khorne Bloodbound, there isn't a "Bloodbound" keyword and no Allegiance: Khorne Bloodbound. I actually like it this way. It means I can have a legal army consisting of a Brass Stampede from Khorne Bloodbound and a Ruinbringer Warband from Slaves to Darkness with everything having the same allegiance (Khorne Mortal). Hopefully, I'll be able to do something similar with the other 3 Chaos gods (sorry, Horned Rat. No one likes you) once their mortal forces are fleshed out better.

Considering that the Silver Tower acolyte's throw warp flames, and are boosted in that by having a Sorcerer nearby, they are pretty different.

Maybe I'm not articulating my point. I want more units like the Kairoc Acolytes. Here is what I mean:

Khorne Bloodbound is the tome for Khorne's mortal followers. This army has several units that are basically murder/death/kill themed versions of some Slaves to Darkness units. The Bloodreavers are Khorne Marauders turned up to 11. The Blood Warriors are Khorne Chaos Warriors turned up to 11. I would like to see the same treatment given the Tzeentch, Nurgle, and Slaanesh when their mortal armies are expanded. For Tzeentch, I like that we already have a Tzeentch Marauder unit set to 11 in the Kairoc Acolytes. I want to see the rest of the Arcanites faction fleshed out in a similar way to how Khorne's mortals were. What I do not want is "give Slaves to Darkness models the Tzeentch keyward and you'll get X". I want more thought put into it. Tzaangors are cool, but I'm hoping they aren't the only new Tzeentch models in the book.

Ah! I see what you mean I do think it's highly likely that is the case considering the Kairoc acolytes hell Tzaangor's seem to be a gor or bestigor set to 11. You even have a minotaur that can shoot fireballs and use the lore of tzeentch compared to a normal Mino/doombull only use their great strength and axe. I do think it's nice beastmen are getting some love man I thought I wonder never see the day of a tzaangor on a disc.

 shinros wrote:

Spoiler:

 EnTyme wrote:

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

 EnTyme wrote:

 shinros wrote:

 EnTyme wrote:
I do hope there are more human models with this release. I like the Tzaangors, but my plan is to build an army of Chaos mortals for each god.

Considering slaves to darkness can take mark of tzeentch they should be able to use the book. Hell many people on the grand alliance community suspect that they are bringing everything tzeentch aligned into one tome instead of tzeentch "mortal" or "daemon" it will just focus on the tzeentch keyword which slaves to darkness can easily take.

Someone noted that they said on the stream this would be a new "take" on battletomes they are calling it "disciples of tzeentch" instead of tzeentch Arcanites for a reason and I suspect this is the reason why we haven't seen a Death battletome yet since both Death and tzeentch suffered from similar problems. I think Death if theories are correct will be based on this format. Since tzeentch suffered from not being able to use magic and their formations, summoning and battleline issues along with synergy problems just like Death.

I'm hoping for a more specialized unit like the difference between a Chaos Marauder and a Kairoc Acolyte. Specifically, I'd like to see a magic-focused Chaos Warrior. Khorne Bloodbound have their equivalents in the Bloodreavers and Blood Warriors.

I do think that they are going to change the way Battletomes work, especially for Chaos. Even though there is a book entitled Battletome: Khorne Bloodbound, there isn't a "Bloodbound" keyword and no Allegiance: Khorne Bloodbound. I actually like it this way. It means I can have a legal army consisting of a Brass Stampede from Khorne Bloodbound and a Ruinbringer Warband from Slaves to Darkness with everything having the same allegiance (Khorne Mortal). Hopefully, I'll be able to do something similar with the other 3 Chaos gods (sorry, Horned Rat. No one likes you) once their mortal forces are fleshed out better.

Considering that the Silver Tower acolyte's throw warp flames, and are boosted in that by having a Sorcerer nearby, they are pretty different.

Maybe I'm not articulating my point. I want more units like the Kairoc Acolytes. Here is what I mean:

Khorne Bloodbound is the tome for Khorne's mortal followers. This army has several units that are basically murder/death/kill themed versions of some Slaves to Darkness units. The Bloodreavers are Khorne Marauders turned up to 11. The Blood Warriors are Khorne Chaos Warriors turned up to 11. I would like to see the same treatment given the Tzeentch, Nurgle, and Slaanesh when their mortal armies are expanded. For Tzeentch, I like that we already have a Tzeentch Marauder unit set to 11 in the Kairoc Acolytes. I want to see the rest of the Arcanites faction fleshed out in a similar way to how Khorne's mortals were. What I do not want is "give Slaves to Darkness models the Tzeentch keyward and you'll get X". I want more thought put into it. Tzaangors are cool, but I'm hoping they aren't the only new Tzeentch models in the book.

Ah! I see what you mean I do think it's highly likely that is the case considering the Kairoc acolytes hell Tzaangor's seem to be a gor or bestigor set to 11. You even have a minotaur that can shoot fireballs and use the lore of tzeentch compared to a normal Mino/doombull only use their great strength and axe. I do think it's nice beastmen are getting some love man I thought I wonder never see the day of a tzaangor on a disc.

They're definitely cool models. I love playing Beastmen in Total War: Warhammer, so I would imagine I'll end up with that army at some point as well. Hopefully by then we'll have Gors for the other gods as well.

I look forward to this release, as the individual models look quite fine, and the colours will look good with my khornate force. However these pictures doesn't set me on fire. The acolytes look very eqyptian, and to me that is the realm of tomb kings.

Reading over the Silver Tower units in AoS app, I find it hard to justify choosing kairic acolytes and tzaangors over Khorne bloodreavers in synergy with Khorne heroes. So I look forward to see what the DoT brings up.

 Mymearan wrote:

I'm guessing 3-5 new units in the new book by looking at these images.

I see a new blue-metallic color.

RazorEdge wrote:
I see a new blue-metallic color.

I see the recently released Thousand Sons Blue and Ahriman Blue. Where do you see a new metallic blue?

Currently reading this new advent short story and right now in these 18 pages it's setting up awesome background information. For 2 pounds.



Also elf/alf fans



A Warhammer Age of Sigmar short story

In the age before Chaos, during a time of myth, the pantheon of gods ruled at Sigmar’s hand. As dark times return to the Mortal Realms, Sigmar beseeches the goddess Alarielle to heed a tale of those better years, one he hopes will restore not only her faith but the faith of all noble creatures.

READ IT BECAUSE
Sigmar's quest to reunite his old pantheon of gods has been one of the underlying themes of the Age of Sigmar so far, but we haven't seen much of the time when they did stand together. Well, here's your chance.



THE STORY
In the age before Chaos, during a time of myth, the pantheon of gods ruled at Sigmar’s hand. As dark times return to the Mortal Realms, Sigmar beseeches the goddess Alarielle to heed a tale of those better years, one he hopes will restore not only her faith but the faith of all noble creatures. Heed then the saga of the mage Bayla who seeks the Realms' End, a mythic place believed to hold a great secret. Beseeching the aid of wise Teclis and dread Nagash, Bayla's desire for knowledge and the fulfilment of his quest blinds him to the danger in his midst, one that could imperil his very soul.

Written by Guy Haley

This is exactly what my Tzeentch mutant StD army needs to get up to 2500 pionts. Assuming the acolytes are battleline that is.

Yeah just finished the short story first book where it's a human wizard doing something bloody awesome.

I got a copy of spire of dawn the other day.
Some nice little bits of fluff from both elven and skaven points of view.
No scenarios, so it'll go best with the generals handbook. (i imagine we'll be seeing this as a bundle in the near future.)
Models are the same as ever, supplied with round and square bases.

The Tzeentch stuff looks awesome, i'm hoping for WD rules that allow these new things to be used in WHQ silver tower. Especially the alternate acolytes.

 shinros wrote:
Also elf/alf fans

What an amazing leak, and I love the fact that not only my guesses were right about the staff and disc showed preivously on the Rumor Engine, but the model itelsef kicks butt!

Now, what do we have?

Tzaangors, Kairic Acolytes, the Moon guy that has that green vulture should be a special weapon guy. And if you noticed, right behing him there is a Scroll wielder, I'd say that it's their version of a banner.

That Greater Tzaangor on disk has to be the main leader.

Now, the Tzaangors on disks (and I think one of them has a bow) at the very bottom should be their answer to big cavalry units, which could be pretty awesome on the table, meanwhile the Tzaangors on foot just at the front center of them seems quite bigger than the rest, maybe they are their elite units.

I have a doubt, tho, could those Tzaangors be compatible with 40K?

I can't wait to see if they will get a SC!

CMLR wrote:

 shinros wrote:
Also elf/alf fans

What an amazing leak, and I love the fact that not only my guesses were right about the staff and disc showed preivously on the Rumor Engine, but the model itelsef kicks butt!

Now, what do we have?

Tzaangors, Kairic Acolytes, the Moon guy that has that green vulture should be a special weapon guy. And if you noticed, right behing him there is a Scroll wielder, I'd say that it's their version of a banner.

That Greater Tzaangor on disk has to be the main leader.

Now, the Tzaangors on disks (and I think one of them has a bow) at the very bottom should be their answer to big cavalry units, which could be pretty awesome on the table, meanwhile the Tzaangors on foot just at the front center of them seems quite bigger than the rest, maybe they are their elite units.

I have a doubt, tho, could those Tzaangors be compatible with 40K?

I can't wait to see if they will get a SC!

Yeah that elf appears to be the god of all knowledge and magic now well the good god of knowledge and magic. The short story pretty much shows that the elf/Aelf gods may have human followers here and there since they were a pantheon in the age of myth. The short story follows a human wizard trying to find the end of the realms and Sigmar and alarielle the everqueen go over his life and his travel there.

I suspect after this short story it won't surprise me to see Alarielle reaching out to the wanderer's again at some point in the future. Also details on the cosmology of the mortal realms in context of Realms end, also dwarfs/Duardin pretty much act how we all expect them to act considering the encounter with Grungi's Temple guard.

The short story starts with pretty much sigmar going over the past and how the pantheon are "divine" survivors of the world that was.

 shinros wrote:
Yeah that elf appears to be the god of all knowledge and magic now well the good god of knowledge and magic. The short story pretty much shows that the elf/Aelf gods may have human followers here and there since they were a pantheon in the age of myth. The short story follows a human wizard trying to find the end of the realms and Sigmar and alarielle the everqueen go over his life and his travel there.

I suspect after this short story it won't surprise me to see Alarielle reaching out to the wanderer's again at some point in the future. Also details on the cosmology of the mortal realms in context of Realms end, also dwarfs/Duardin pretty much act how we all expect them to act considering the encounter with Grungi's Temple guard.

The short story starts with pretty much sigmar going over the past and how the pantheon are "divine" survivors of the world that was.

It wasn't that, it was "Alf", because the typo...

NVM.

 Nova_Impero wrote:

 Mymearan wrote:

I'm guessing 3-5 new units in the new book by looking at these images.

While I'm okay with Tzaangors on Discs (really, ANY Disc-riding unit would be awesome), I'd much prefer Chaos Warriors/Knights riding those discs instead. I'd like to see more Tzeentch Warriors, like Khorne got.

But holy Changer of Ways, these are GORGEOUS!

Yeah, I do like the tzaangors but I would have really like a tzeentch chosen kit like this:

Something more intimidating and bulky and ornate in contrast to the other models that have a lot of skin and feathers. But I guess since this is AoS and not the old world, that's the angle they are pushing. No more chaos warriors from norsca or kurgan tribes that are all bulked up.

I'd like to see Chosen in that vein as well, but also understand GW wanting to move away from every Power having slight variations on the same troops.