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Hey guys, I know some of you, thought I am relatively new to the forums. In any case. We are making a large effort to expand the Games Workshop events at Templecon this year. So I've got a lot of details for you.

The overall setup/awards for Fantasy and 40k will be the same, so I will lay out specific restrictions/rules for each event, after the common section.

Both events have a 50 player cap currently, (though if there is a lot of demand we can expand that number).

Both Fantasy and 40k are part of the GW tournament circuit and the top players from each will get tickets to Throne of Skulls 2012.

Check out Warmachine/Hordes events/schedule Here

Schedule 40K:
Saturday Feb, 4th: 8-9 registration/table assignments.
9-11:30, RND 1.
11:30-12:30 Lunch
12:30 - 3pm, RND 2
3-3:30, Break
3:30-6, RND 3

Sun Feb, 5th: 8:30-9 checkin/ table assignments.
9-11:30 RND 4.
11:30-12:30, Lunch
12:30 - 3pm RND 5.
3-3:30 clean up
3:45-4:15 Awards.

Schedule Fantasy:
Saturday Feb, 4th: 8-9:15 registration/table assignments.
9:15-11:45, RND 1.
11:45-12:45 Lunch
12:45 - 3:15, RND 2
3:15-3:45, Break
3:45-6:15, RND 3

Sun Feb, 5th: 8:30-9:15 checkin/ table assignments.
9:15-11:45 RND 4.
11:45-12:45, Lunch
12:45 - 3:15 RND 5.
3:15-3:45 clean up
4-4:15 Awards.

MAX of 100 Battle Points throughout the tournament (20 each round), both game systems.

Sportsmanship(40k + Fantasy):
Everyone starts out with 20/30 possible points for sportsmanship. At the end of every game, you will score your opponent on a pass/fail system.
Ask yourself the following:

"Did my opponent's attitude and/or behavior make the game an UNpleasant experience, overall?"
Note to the player: Please be sure that your answer is based on your opponent's behavior as a person, not on their army, and certainly not on who won or lost. Thank you!

IF you would answer the above question with a "YES" Then your opponent failed.
Each failure will be handles as follows:
1 failure = -2points
2 failures = -5 points
3 failures = -10 points
4 failures = -20 points and DQ'd from winning any awards
5 failures = DQ and not allowed to return.

Note: All "Bad game" votes will need to be explained to the TO. Just to ensure that it was legitimately earned.

At the end of the Event, you will fill in your favorite opponent from the event. Each Favorite opponent vote gets you 2 points added to your sports score.

Painting:

Painting will be based on a checklist which will be worth 30 points. I will do by best to have a rough outline for the checklist up shortly.

End result:

Battle: 100 points
Sports: 30 points
Painting: 30 points
Total: 160 points

Awards:
Best Overall: will go to the player with the highest total score. Tie Breaker will be Battle Points.
Best General: will go to the player with the highest Battle point total. Tie Breaker will be sportsmanship.
Best Sport: will go to the player with the highest Sportsmanship score. Tie Breaker will Battle points.
Player's Choice: will go to the player with the most votes for "Favorite Army" by all participants. Tie breaker will be painting score.
Runner up: will be awarded to the player who played on the highest ranked table in round 5 who did not receive a different award (winner first).

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40k restrictions:
2000 points.
Standard force org.
All forces must use their most recent codex, including WD replacements.
No IA lists, though FW models may be used to represent a normal codex entry where appropriate.

Fully Painted Armies are required! This means all models must be painted to a three color minimum.

40k Scoring system:

All games will follow the format below.

Main objective: 8pts for win, 0pts for loss. 4 points each if the objective is a draw.
Secondary objective: 4pts for win, 0pts for loss. 2 points each if the objective is a draw.

Victory points: (8 points)
Calculate the victory point difference between the players and consult the table below:
VP dif ---- Winner -- Loser
0-300 ------- 4 --------- 4
301-600 ----- 5 --------- 3
601-900 ----- 6 --------- 2
901-1200 ---- 7 --------- 1
1201+ ------- 8 --------- 0

MAX of 20 points per game.

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Fantasy Restrictions:
2400 points.
Dark Elf Sorceresses may not use more dice than normal.
Teclis, Kairos, and Thorek are all banned.
All other Special Characters are on a case by case basis and need to be approved for use.

Characters will get "look out sir" versus the following spells that automatically kill models or automatically remove an entire regiment: Dwellers Below, Final Transmutation, Dreaded 13th, Infernal Gateway 11-12 effect. Normal requirements for lookout sir apply.

Army used can be any of the currently published GW Army books.
A maximum of 3 identical core choices may be taken (regardless of equipment and other upgrades)
An army may have up to 5 war machines and template weapons. Warmachines that use a template count as a single choice in this regard. All template weapons (from magic items, abilities, etc.) count, except for spells.
Max. 45 models with missile weapons with a range of 12”+ (not incl. war machines, characters and chariots).

Unit sizes are limited as follows:
Units cannot be more than 40 models nor 450 points (including all command, upgrades, magic items/banners). This restriction applies during the creation of the roster - unit size/cost may be increased during the game (for example - by joining characters to the unit). This restriction does not apply to characters.

Magic Restrictions:
Apart from Winds of magic and Channeling, an army may only generate 2 PD/DD per magic phase.
You may have units/abilities that actually would generate more than 2 extra dice, but any excess dice are lost
Some magic items/abilities count as generating dice toward this limit.
"Count as" items/abilities may never exceed a cumulative 2 PD/DD per phase. This means that if you take the Book of Hoeth, you may not take any other items that "count as adding PD/DD"
All modifiers are applied from the army list and will not change during the game.

Item restrictions:
Each Loremaster ability counts as generating 1 PD each magic phase
Any item that auto-dispels a spell counts as generating 1 DD each magic phase.
Folding Fortress is not allowed

Army Specific Restrictions:
Beastmen: Beastmen armies have an extra 200 points for their roster (2600 total). All victory points scored against this army are decreased by 10% (excluding bonus points for banners, general, etc.).
Bretts: No Restrictions
Dark Elves: Hydra is a 0-1 choice. Max. 35 repeater Crossbows in the army (regardless of who carries them). Repeater Bolt Throwers 0-2. Flying units (inc. characters on flying steeds) in the army limited to 0-3. Shades max 20 models per army. Dreadlord on pegasus cannot take Crown of Command.
Dwarves: Each spellbreaker/spelleater rune counts as +1 DD. Grudge Throwers are a 0-2 choice; May generate Max. +4 dispel dice instead of +2
DOC: Max. 28 Models per unit; Flamers are a 0-1 choice. All daemonic gifts are 0-1. Bloodletters and Herald of Khorne are 0-3 total. Daemonic Battle Standard can take either daemonic icon or gifts. Lord of Change counts as 1 PD
Empire: Steam Tank counts as a war machine; Tank, Rocket battery and Engineers are 0-1 choices
High Elves: Max. 500 points or 40 models per unit; Vortex Shard counts as +1DD; Book of Hoeth counts as 2PD and 2 DD; Banner of the World Dragon counts as +1 DD
Lizardmen: Salamanders are a 0-1 Choice ; Terradons and Stegadons (any kind) are 0-2 choices; Beclaming Cogitations counts as +2DD; Cupped hands counts as +2PD; Skink Cohort models do not count towards the shooting restrictions.
Ogres: Hell Heart counts as 2DD; Units comprised of only gnoblars do not count towards the shooting restrictions.
O&G: Night Goblin Shamans are 0-3 (max 3 of any kind of NG shaman); mushroom dice do not count as power dice in regard to the PD limit.
Skaven: All Skaven rare choices 0-1; Gutter runners are a 0-2 choice; Engineers are a 0-3 choice;
Vampires: Wraiths and Varghulf and TerrorGeist are 0-1 choices. Wraith unit size - maximum 5 models. Army may have maximum two units (total) of: wraiths, black coach or spirit hosts. Army may include a maximum of one of the following: Helm of Commandment, Drakenhoff Banner. Wight units have a max of cost of 400 points.
TK: Neferra's Scrolls of Mighty Incantations counts as 2 PD AND 2 DD. Hierotitan is worth 1 PD so long as it's alive. Sphinxes of all kinds: 0-3 per army
WE: Wand of Wych Elm counts as +1 DD
Warriors of Chaos: Hellcannon is a 0-1 choice. Infernal Puppet counts as +1 PD and +2DD; Tendrils of Tzeench and Conjoined Homunculus both counts as +1 PD. Favour of the Gods cannot be taken by a Champion of a Chosen of Tzeentch unit

Fully Painted Armies are required! This means all models must be painted to a three color minimum.

Army lists will be CLOSED, with the exception that you must reveal ALL "counts as" PD or DD items/abilities at the start of the game.

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Registration is HERE

There are a ton of other events going on, Magic, DnD, Board Games, Wine Tastings, Live music, FoW, Malifaux and more.

Please note, specific event registration is not open yet, but should be up the first week of Nov. In the mean time, you can email me (Keith) @ onslaughtgt@gmail.com to hold a spot or to ask any questions. Also, Feel free to post any questions about the restriction/rules/whatever here.

Thanks,
-Keith

I will definitely be going to this one for 40k. The events were great last year and with the new and improved registration process of the con, the entire experience should be great.

I'm a bit confused with the 40k side, does that mean that all missions are VP, or is that just letting us know how VP is scored, and there will be other objectives for games (like objectives, kp, etc.)

Looks like every mission will have a primary goal worth 8pts (or 4pts each if the players Draw on it), a secondary goal worth 4pts (or 2pts each if you Draw on it), and then VP differential for up to 8 more points. So in each game you can score up to 12 battle points on the mission objectives, and 8 more on victory points.

It's an interesting system. Definitely rewards crushing victories. I'll definitely play in this if the team event isn't being held again this year (I think the Cold Steel Mercs will want to defend our title).

Mannahnin wrote:Looks like every mission will have a primary goal worth 8pts (or 4pts each if the players Draw on it), a secondary goal worth 4pts (or 2pts each if you Draw on it), and then VP differential for up to 8 more points. So in each game you can score up to 12 battle points on the mission objectives, and 8 more on victory points.

It's an interesting system. Definitely rewards crushing victories. I'll definitely play in this if the team event isn't being held again this year (I think the Cold Steel Mercs will want to defend our title).

Ahh, thanks, that makes a good bit more sense now. Sounds interesting, I'll try to make this if I can get the time away.

I'm going this year but I'm not sure how much attention I want to give to 40k, since I'm really going for warmachine strangely enough.

Already registered for con & hotel room; can't wait for this tournament!!

Yes, Mannahnin has is right on. Also, basically using his Sportsmanship system (which is already getting good feedback)

I do not believe there is a team tournament in the work (Though there is doubles on Friday).

BUT, if we get a good enough turnout this year, the Team event will return in 2013, and Cold Steel Mercs would certainly be the defending champions!

I'm Grant, the Convention Director for TempleCon and co-owner of The Temple Games in Pawtucket, RI. I wanted to drop in and let you guys personally know that 40k (as well as Fantasy) is a huge priority for us this year. Seeing it's significant growth last year at the convention was something we have been working hard to achieve for years, and the amount of effort Keith and a number of other tournament organizers have put into these events is staggering.

We had a ton of awesome feedback after the events at 2011, and we decided that it was well in order to increase the amount of space for GW significantly. This year the 40k and Fantasy will be going on in the Grand Ballroom of the venue, which is absolutely huge, and this increase in space will be coming with a massive upgrade on the terrain as well. We're also working on large scenario tables for free play during the weekend, and a rather epic 40k diorama featuring a number of my painted models near registration.

Pre-registration is highly recommended, as we are mailing out all badges to pre-registered attendees this year before the convention. This means you can walk right into the con during the weekend without any wait in line. Individual event registration and a full event listing will begin to go live in the next couple of weeks as events continue to come in, and I'll post here immediately when you can register your spot for the GW stuff.

As for other things going on, TempleCon is a very diverse event as anyone who has ever attended in the past knows, and that won't be any different this year. Expect live music and performances, scotch/wine/beer tastings and classes, panels, industry guests of honor, a ridiculous number of vendors (including The War Store), huge parties, game demos, tournaments and a hell of a lot more going on 24 hours a day for an entire weekend. All of this is wrapped in the usual chill atmosphere that can only be found at TempleCon, and add to that our retro-futurism theme focus for this year, which is all things post-apocalyptic!

You also want to get painting, as we recently confirmed that Cool Mini Or Not will be in attendance, and TempleCon will be the host of a Crystal Brush Qualifier!

And yes, Warmachine and Hordes players of all skill levels should take note that TempleCon is the largest event in the world for competitive and casual Privateer Press gaming. If you play both 40k and WM/HORDES (as I do), you should have no problem dividing your time between them, as they will be next door to each-other for the first time in the history of the event.

Hit the website at http://www.templecon.org/ or our Facebook for all of the latest news. See you in February.

grant it sounds like you guys are set to out-do yourselves once again!

Based upon past years, this is an event that is not to be missed.

If you are anywhere near the East Coast or can get there via land, sea, or air you owe it to yourself to attend...

CT GAMER wrote:grant it sounds like you guys are set to out-do yourselves once again!

Based upon past years, this is an event that is not to be missed.

If you are anywhere near the East Coast or can get there via land, sea, or air you owe it to yourself to attend...

I'm considering taking a train...seems fitting

Once the 40k event comes up I will gladly register.

Are you guys going to run a charity event again this year and when can we reserve a spot for the 40k event?

Yes, There will be a charity event Friday Afternoon/Evening. It will be a doubles event (limit 50 teams). I will post rules for this shortly. The Ocean State Dice Devils will once again be running the show, as they did a great job with it last year. I am just trying to handle the high level organizing.

Event registration goes live in the next week or two.

keithb wrote:Event registration goes live in the next week or two.

Excellent thank you Keith!

I may consider this as it's about an hour's drive from my parent's house in CT.

Hey guys,

I slipped into Templecon last year just for the 3 game 40k tournament, and was amazed to see so much vibrant excitement and life! This is not just another 40k con. The costumed party goers, the vendors, the events, the fun! There was literally gamers playing games every where. Even in the elevator! Templecon is now on my yearly event schedule, and to hear that they are working to increase the size of GW events makes me even happier.

Give it a go!

Jawaballs

Thanks Jawa, It was good meeting you during the Trios event at Nova, definitely hope to see you @ templecon!

-Keith (member of Team Bastard @ Nova)

keithb wrote:Thanks Jawa, It was good meeting you during the Trios event at Nova, definitely hope to see you @ templecon!

-Keith (member of Team Bastard @ Nova)

Team Bastard! Oh you will see us. I just bought my ticket and reserved the hotel. Jim is going to right away, and so if Fritz. This time expect to see some jacked out cheese for the trios to match up with yours!

Sadly we won't have time to complete the team army Jim, myself and Dan from Nova (The sewer rat guard nova best army finalist) are working on. But no doubt fun will be had by all.

I strongly suggest if you guys are in the area that you get to Templecon.

Looking forward to having beers Keith!

Jawaballs

Might try and make this but this time for 40k. I had a blast last time I went to temple con for warmachine/hordes.

Do all tournies have such ridiculous restrictions on list building?

The fantasy restrictions are laughable as the game is not nearly that imbalanced.

You know, if you want to engage in a discussion about the army restrictions, it might help to do it a bit more constructively. If it were my event, I'd at least be tempted to just write your post off as trolling.

Large events for WHFB increasingly have significant restrictions in army construction. Every tournament player I know (in the US and abroad) has found that 8th edition significantly reduces the balance and tactical dimensions of the game, despite being a fun beer & pretzles edition.

Aerethan wrote:Do all tournies have such ridiculous restrictions on list building?

The fantasy restrictions are laughable as the game is not nearly that imbalanced.

Good events do have these or similar restrictions.

These restrictions are based on the ETC restrictions Which are played and tested for months ahead of time. I got some feedback regarding how the event went this year and slightly tweaked a few things.

What exact restrictions are you taking issue with? Or are you just an "anti comp/restriction" person?

If you feel that some of the restrictions are imbalanced or not correct, please state that, I am more than willing to discuss or re-evaluate specific rules.
IF you feel restrictions are not correct at all, this Fantasy event may not be for you.

-Keith

I'm fine with comp but it's all the army specific restrictions I'm not a fan of. Every deathstar and nasty trick in the game has some way of being dealt with, and to deny people those tricks, should they decide to use them, is just watering down the tactical choices that need to be made.

I don't play in tournies, so this is the first I've seen on restrictions for 8th edition. Just not my cup of tea, no need to change anything on your end just because of me. cheers and hope your event goes well.

Aerethan wrote:I'm fine with comp but it's all the army specific restrictions I'm not a fan of. Every deathstar and nasty trick in the game has some way of being dealt with, and to deny people those tricks, should they decide to use them, is just watering down the tactical choices that need to be made.

I don't play in tournies, so this is the first I've seen on restrictions for 8th edition. Just not my cup of tea, no need to change anything on your end just because of me. cheers and hope your event goes well.

Yes they do, and you know what's great about having over 100+ indy GT's is that you can find the event that fits your liking. Please stop trying too sour Keiths cornflakes as my hats off to him for doing this. He was at my GT this year and is a stand up guy. Organizing an event is not easy a lot goes into it (no matter if it's 20 people or 100). If you are not going to the event, which by your own statement you won't be, then please stop trolling it and leave the thread alone.

I mean absolutely no disrespect to the TO. It's a job I couldn't handle.

This is just the first I've seen of tournie comp and restrictions, so it hit me kinda hard.

I didn't mean to troll. I apologize. Best of luck with your event!

hey keith its Ed from BFS, spoke with Jawa and a bunch of guys from the club and theres alot of interest in going. Ive already reserved a room for us. I know Chris has done the same. I do have a question regarding prereg for the full event. Does the 3 day ticket include the friday 40k event ? and if so is that event the doubles tournament ? Just trying to consider what tickets i should buy.

thanks
ed

There is no additional cost for any event. It is just the cost for Templecon itself.

Friday is doubles, and is included in that as well. I will be posting doubles rules for both 40k and Fantasy in the next Day or two.

Thanks for the interest.

No kidding... wow that makes me happy because I signed up for Temple yesterday so I was just waiting for the cost of the event itself to post. Keith you just made my day buddy.

keithb wrote:There is no additional cost for any event. It is just the cost for Templecon itself.

WHHHHAAAAAT?!?!? I'm planning on going for WM, but I so might bring up some 40k stuff now.