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I'm just saying these guys are way over powered, my guardsmen don't stand a chance against a squad of 10 termys with these things! what do you guys think? is there anyway to counter these lil op bastards??

Yeah, kill them. really, they're not that tough. Also, cover is your friend and those weapons are pretty useless against mech.

Finally, this has nothing to do with rules questions, might I suggest you ask a mod to move it to the proper forum?

please do sorry

Use cover? Get a bigger squad? Throw a tank at them?

10 Termagants with Devourers = 100pts.
10 IG with AC, Flamer =65pts.

You can get 30 guys equipped as above for cheaper than they can get 20 guys equipped as above.

If you let them shoot you outside of cover, you die. If you flame them and charge them, they die.

Use cover, and use your other (supporting) units. Termagants also don't like getting hit with heavy flamers which area free upgrade for your Chimeras. Chimeras which, incidentally, the Termagants can't hurt.

1000 Termagant with devourers

1 Chimera with 2 heavy flamers.

Nid player: ********* chimera and heavy flamers are OP >.<

Termagaunts with Devourers are OP?

Do what IG do best and throw a tank or ten at them.

Leman Russ, bare bones, you have now removed the threat of them completely.

I feel your pain man.

There's this other DE player at my local GW, and he fields like 3 squads of Mandrakes. Can never beat the guy, it's so cheesy.

Get Chimeras with dual HFs or a couple of hellhounds.

If it's just 1, one hellhound will wreck them easy. How are you having that much difficulty with just them? Take a master of ordinance or something, or flamers. There is of course the option of going to ground in cover.

Lol. Try getting in a vehicle. Barring that, cover. Boom, problem solved.

If only my problems were this easy.

Shoot first. Any guard on foot will be at least 20 strong - so FRFSRF and drop them with about double the fire power. Anything left won't do enough damage to survive.

I use devourer gants and have to say their perceived threat is much higher than their actual effectiveness. BS3 and AP- means that only a small fraction of the shots you take will get to hurt anything.

Unless in range of a tervigon their CC skills also leave much to be desired.

Is this a joke post? Is rolling a bunch of dice now overpowered? It can't be that devil gants are actually killing that many models - half hit, half wound, a third are saved (against IG anyway)

You can't be serious...

I've zero success with devgants. Thats with 20 in a spore dropping in a sweet spot = fail.

They serve as a decent distraction unit for me, or as an objective grabber.

He has machine guns (full of worms), you have artillery by the fething ton. I'd say Guard has more of the OP issue than bugs...

He's basically bringing a BB gun to a tank war. Guard have access to stoopid amounts of cheap vehicles. Hide in them. , hide behind them, shoot him with them from the other side of the battlefield...

Lokas wrote:I feel your pain man.

There's this other DE player at my local GW, and he fields like 3 squads of Mandrakes. Can never beat the guy, it's so cheesy.

Did you seriously just say that mandrakes are cheesy they are one of the DE worst units.

redkeyboard wrote:

Lokas wrote:I feel your pain man.

There's this other DE player at my local GW, and he fields like 3 squads of Mandrakes. Can never beat the guy, it's so cheesy.

Did you seriously just say that mandrakes are cheesy they are one of the DE worst units.

I think this is another case of Noob rage.

Seriously? 10 points for T3, 1 wound, 6+ save? For the same price you could put double that number of Termagants. And all for 6" extra range, and 2 extra shots, which lack any AP? I am going to be stuicking with good ole' Fleshborors.

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

redkeyboard wrote:

Lokas wrote:I feel your pain man.

There's this other DE player at my local GW, and he fields like 3 squads of Mandrakes. Can never beat the guy, it's so cheesy.

Did you seriously just say that mandrakes are cheesy they are one of the DE worst units.

I think this is another case of Noob rage.

Don't tell me that the humour in Lokas' posts went over your heads, both of you?

That's...that's a pretty fail at recognizing humor guys. Fail like finding devgaunts OP

Jihallah wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

redkeyboard wrote:

Lokas wrote:I feel your pain man.

There's this other DE player at my local GW, and he fields like 3 squads of Mandrakes. Can never beat the guy, it's so cheesy.

Did you seriously just say that mandrakes are cheesy they are one of the DE worst units.

I think this is another case of Noob rage.

Don't tell me that the humour in Lokas' posts went over your heads, both of you?

That's...that's a pretty fail at recognizing humor guys. Fail like finding devgaunts OP

Possibly, but the way he worded it made it soud like he was beiing serious normally people do somthing like inverted commas to show they are being sarcastic. Its hard to tell sarcasm if you can't hear how they are saying it.

He was being facetious, which is slightly different than sarcasm, and independent of tone. You determine how serious someone is by the subject matter and current discussion. If most everyone is suggesting that an original position is ridiculous, and someone makes an equally ridiculous statement, then the first thought should be to not take them seriously.

Spend more times on the forums, less time outside.

redkeyboard wrote:

Possibly, but the way he worded it made it soud like he was beiing serious normally people do somthing like inverted commas to show they are being sarcastic. Its hard to tell sarcasm if you can't hear how they are saying it.

I was going to rip into this but somerandomdude beat me to it (some random dude is always beating me to everything, even on the internet, damnit!).

Yes. I was being facetious, as others have already explained for me.

I'd originally written that post complaining about how OP lasguns are, but I was worried people might take it seriously as lasguns can do some damage in large numbers. So I swapped it to mandrakes, to ramp up the ridiculosity in hopes the joke wouldn't go over anyone's head.

Oops.

FRFSRF can be far more OP than Fleshborers, and costs a fraction of the cost.

Get in cover, FRFSRF them to hell. Easy.