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Khorne and Slaanesh really needed this update, so I'm glad to see it.

I'll be much more excited to see new Kroxigor and Cold One Riders. Doubt we'll see it tomorrow as they've been going by every-other-week but who knows!

If not tomorrow, then I'm sure we'll see the rest of the Lizardman line at Adepticon.

I just hope Skarbrand still makes opponent go "do I want to risk attacking him if I can't kill it?" feature that is so hilarious

Albeit exact feature can change but I want to see my opponent go pale when he tries but fails to kill him. (I literally won game that I was about to lose solidly when opponent charged into skarbrand with zombie dragon, failed to kill and Skarbrand became so angry that he basically ran through half the enemy army single handedly. One of the craziest in game reversals I have done. I was totally busted before that)

Preview for the Khorne book is up:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/03/13/rip-open-reality-and-bestow-brutish-blessings-upon-your-followers-in-battletome-blades-of-khorne

'Make a murder roll' is somehow just deeply funny to me

You'd think a "murder roll" would be a type of bread bun, really, that the Blades of Khorne have for lunch.

Worried blood tithe loses some of more tactical usages(move, charge etc) if it goes to end of game bonuses. Just variations of "hit harder" would be boring and losing above tricks would leave huge gap to fill

Warhammer Community preview article for the Slaanesh battletome:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/03/14/use-guaranteed-sixes-to-tempt-your-foes-with-battletome-hedonites-of-slaanesh/

 Geifer wrote:
Warhammer Community preview article for the Slaanesh battletome:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/03/14/use-guaranteed-sixes-to-tempt-your-foes-with-battletome-hedonites-of-slaanesh/

I hope that they do the Administratum as a faction one time and give them Bookkeeping dice as a feature...

Not to say anything against these Temptation dice, they're far from the worst offender, but they seem so convoluted. You can give an enemy a six or he takes D3 mortal wounds, and if she takes the 6 you get D6 of yet another type of point, and these unlock abilities or can be spend on summoning. Just rolls and dice and points and yet more rolls, and barely any of it goes anywhere.

Unless depravity scale changes dramatically up to 6d6 deprarity is huge. Almost 2tt kos level huge

Edit yea changes

tneva82 wrote:
Unless depravity scale changes dramatically up to 6d6 deprarity is huge. Almost 2tt kos level huge

Edit yea changes

yeah, there's big changes to the system. You get some mediocre benefits from leveling up your depravity points but then also must spend those points to summon things, thereby losing out on the bonuses.

There's also mind-games and a bit of counter-play. You're not going to give a bloodthirster a free 6 to hit or wound when it could mean 3+ damage coming your way and wiping out a unit. On the flip side, a squad of skeletons doesn't give a crap about d3 mortal wounds, so they'll take it just to deny you the depravity points.

-1 to hit army wide is big. Even at worst that's 20% decrease in enemy output. Add ward forcing opponent to make 50% more damage and it makes slaanesh surprisingly durable. And mw's in addition on to hit is pretty good generally.

Effects are good. Question is does slaanesh get them fast enough to make impact.

tneva82 wrote:
-1 to hit army wide is big. Even at worst that's 20% decrease in enemy output. Add ward forcing opponent to make 50% more damage and it makes slaanesh surprisingly durable. And mw's in addition on to hit is pretty good generally.

Effects are good. Question is does slaanesh get them fast enough to make impact.

I'd say "probably yes." You get points for dealing damage in melee, which Slaanesh is pretty darn good at. Yeeting Sigvald at something will net around 10 depravity points on average, for instance.

My problem with depravity has always been how swingy it can be. I recall the first incarnation where you only got it when leaders caused wounds (not kills). Fight a Skaven army with mostly 1 wound models and you'd get nothing like as much when you fight a Stormcast or other multiwound army.

It's long been my issue with how GW has handled it as a mechanic. Even on paper its very swingy. Plus its one of those snowball mechanics - the more you kill (ergo the better you are doing) the more points you get to do even better etc....

I like the idea of summoning, but sometimes I really do feel like the best way to balance it is either everyone gets it or you just build an army as normal and summoning is simply a delayed deployment option.

Laughing Man wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
-1 to hit army wide is big. Even at worst that's 20% decrease in enemy output. Add ward forcing opponent to make 50% more damage and it makes slaanesh surprisingly durable. And mw's in addition on to hit is pretty good generally.

Effects are good. Question is does slaanesh get them fast enough to make impact.

I'd say "probably yes." You get points for dealing damage in melee, which Slaanesh is pretty darn good at. Yeeting Sigvald at something will net around 10 depravity points on average, for instance.

Well 1 unit causes. So sigvald needs 4 charges to haul to 36 on his own.

tneva82 wrote:

Laughing Man wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
-1 to hit army wide is big. Even at worst that's 20% decrease in enemy output. Add ward forcing opponent to make 50% more damage and it makes slaanesh surprisingly durable. And mw's in addition on to hit is pretty good generally.

Effects are good. Question is does slaanesh get them fast enough to make impact.

I'd say "probably yes." You get points for dealing damage in melee, which Slaanesh is pretty darn good at. Yeeting Sigvald at something will net around 10 depravity points on average, for instance.

Well 1 unit causes. So sigvald needs 4 charges to haul to 36 on his own.

Sure, but between that, temptation dice, and other sources (Pretenders have a spell to gain up to 6 depravity) it should be pretty easy to get to that point by the top of 3.

New meta-watch:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/03/16/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-metawatch-galletian-champions-establish-themselves-in-the-meta/

Also apparently a new roadmap next week. Not entirely sure what's left to roadmap at this point.

Khorne and Slaanesh preorders this Saturday.
That leaves the 2 Death books to be seen, plus whatever else comes this summer.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
New meta-watch:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/03/16/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-metawatch-galletian-champions-establish-themselves-in-the-meta/

Also apparently a new roadmap next week. Not entirely sure what's left to roadmap at this point.

When cos and fec comes out. Last 2 books without idea when they are coming. Then it's redo's or completeiy new factions.


Wijh bad luck it just confirms next 2 tomes as obr and sbgl.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
New meta-watch:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/03/16/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-metawatch-galletian-champions-establish-themselves-in-the-meta/

Also apparently a new roadmap next week. Not entirely sure what's left to roadmap at this point.

And for what seems like 2 years Kruleboyz continue in the low red zone.

The latest update has really hit Orruks hard, but without a complete overhaul or further across the board drop in points by 10% there is no helping Kruleboyz.

Warhammer twitter teaser for Adepticon: https://twitter.com/warhammer/status/1638148700630310912



Cities of Sigmar, right?

With that font? Surely the big reveal is a Diablo IV crossover

Well, looks like Dawnbringers are finally stepping out from behind the curtain.

Lets hope for dawnbringers already!
And lets hope they are bigger than the guy held by the mega gargant

It'll probably be for Underworlds.

 Fayric wrote:
Lets hope for dawnbringers already!
And lets hope they are bigger than the guy held by the mega gargant

For what it's worth, 40k rumour-dude Valrak got passed a bunch of Adepticon infos and said that Cities of Sigmar will get a 'box reveal', so it's probably an Underworlds box as a sort of teaser

Or launch box with rest later. Like sob or votann.

It’s got it’s own thread, but since the units can be used in AOS, there’s been some warcry leaks. FEC vs SCE and then a mini set that recycled some old underworld teams

So obr&soulblight revealed, seraphon got new knights and krox but not temple guard, cos got 1st unit previewed and revealed to be fall. And 2 mystery books starting from summer. Proxy art not battletome but oddly early for pre-new edition book series.

So dem Seraphon eh? New Saurus cav and Kroxigors look every bit as awesome as I'd hoped. Massive refresh to the army range, I imagine it will be hugely popular given the already existing hype for big dinos. While not a Seraphon player myself I am very happy for my friends who are, and happy for AoS in general to see such a beautiful (and complete) refresh of the line.

On the other hand, OBR really need new units, fingers crossed that a new hero isn't all they're getting. Though not expecting it at this point. Re-release of Mortek Guard with a bow option at LEAST! The new SGL character looks fantastic but did she have to be Vyrkos AND named? Vyrkos have five named characters and zero unnamed ones as it stands...

Hard to stay mad about anything with how fantastic all the new models look. Seriously that is some really nice gak and man am I glad it'll be in plastic rather than resin.

Loved everything that was shown. I do have to wonder, is that it for the Seraphon now? So no re-done Temple Guard, cut Razordon and so on?

Also, one of the books is obviously FEC, but what the hell is the other one?

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
but what the hell is the other one?

I’d like it to be a glow-up for the underwhelming Orruk Warclans Battletome.

Most likely, a new Daughters of Khaine book! (Sarcasm)

Also, the new Cities of Sigmar mini’s previewed were kind of divisive on the two youtube channels that I watched. I like them for the possibilities that they represent, but I think they should have led with something a touch more epic, like a character or warmachine of some sort.