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I was wondering with all the new Meq dexes out when 6th ed hits what do you think they will change and add to the vanillia dex to keep it well...vanillia?

It may get a cherry topping... who knows...

The only new unit I can really think of them adding is the Land Speeder Tempest, as they'd said quite clearly that the Storm Raven is staying BA/GK. Well, short of a thunderhawk at least.

I dunno, maybe bring back Tyranid Hunters? And a new round of special characters. Maybe sentry turrets or armed drop pods?

Rule rewrites, probably replace combat tactics with something else, rewrite Vanguard, scouts and Techmarine rules. And assorted points tweaks and I think that's about it.

Compel wrote:The only new unit I can really think of them adding is the Land Speeder Tempest, as they'd said quite clearly that the Storm Raven is staying BA/GK. Well, short of a thunderhawk at least.

I dunno, maybe bring back Tyranid Hunters? And a new round of special characters. Maybe sentry turrets or armed drop pods?

Rule rewrites, probably replace combat tactics with something else, rewrite Vanguard, scouts and Techmarine rules. And assorted points tweaks and I think that's about it.

I can see them adding in some of the FW Land raider varients, maybe the Deathstorm drop pods,etc.

I would like to see them change up dreadnoughts so that they are rarer and more powerful (aren't ALL dreads "venerable" by their very nature?). Dread spam needs to be toned back from a fluff perspective...

Wait were not getting the stormraven?..WTF!....I wanter a chibihawk

Model-wise, I would expect a new bike kit on the basis that the existing one is so damn old. I could also see something done to make scouts a bit more viable, whether it's just a small point decrease or something more esoteric like what scout bikers have. I would also expect to see more upgrade characters and another special character or two.

I'm having a hard time thinking of much. I probably felt the same way back in 4th edition, to tell you the truth. Considering they'll probably want one new "big" kit a la the Stormraven to sell, they'll probably introduce some new medium-heavy tank or something akin to that.

Probably a new Tac marine kit, as well as a new rhino/razorback kit (Yes, it will probably be merged into one, seeing as GWs new thing is multi-kits).

They also need some sort of flyer. I don't think the tempest fits, but possible a stormraven or something similar.

As an amendment to my other post - I could see a new predator kit. They could bring the sponsons in line with the more durable Baal sponsons, and give it more weapon options to fill in that heavier tank role.

I would like to see all SM chapters rolled into 1 book and just use special HQ choices to flavor each army. It is however a pipe dream and I doubt it will ever happen but for the love of god I am sick of seeing power armor.

40k topic belongs in 40k forum.

Since this is a specific 40K discussion I will move it to the 40K General Discussion forum.

They added a ton of new units in 5E, much more than previous books combined. It's difficult to see them doing such an extensive launch again. We may see one or two, and some mix ups of characters, but likely the biggest changes will be in unit costs/compositions/options/etc.

Well, if any new units are added to the vanilla codex (which they probably will be), all the specialist codices can say goodbye to their effectiveness.

Just as an example (its the one I know the most about): DA can't take a LR redeemer, thunderfire cannons, vanguard, sternguard, ironclad dreads etc. If that happens again. *sigh*

They'll probably give them the stormraven. Wouldn't surprise me at all.

Happygrunt wrote:Probably a new Tac marine kit, as well as a new rhino/razorback kit (Yes, it will probably be merged into one, seeing as GWs new thing is multi-kits).

They also need some sort of flyer. I don't think the tempest fits, but possible a stormraven or something similar.

I want that thing so bad for my Ultramarines!


...Or they finally release a plastic Thunderhawk.

I would like more of a presence for other chapter, making it not Codex: Ultramarines.

Yeah, maybe some Chapter-specific Land Raider/ Predator varients.

DoctorZombie wrote: Yeah, maybe some Chapter-specific Land Raider/ Predator varients.

I agree. Maybe Iron Hands could have Tech-marines/Servitors for troop choices.

rockerbikie wrote:

DoctorZombie wrote: Yeah, maybe some Chapter-specific Land Raider/ Predator varients.

I agree. Maybe Iron Hands could have Tech-marines/Servitors for troop choices.

Maybe not full on Techmarines, I think they fit well as an Elite. Maybe more of a Techmarine Adept, with servo harness, servitors, but not the full Techmarine package, so just Power Armor instead of Artificier Armor to make them more "troop-ish".

This is no to be ment as a dig so if it comes out as that, I do apoplogize in advance.

Space Marines will get something for free and cheaper points without losing any stats unlike other armies that became cheaper but lost some stats. (If not in the codex, it will be in the rule book then. First they became faster when everyone was a standard 6" move. Then they get run for free while others had to pay for fleet. Then they get grenades for free)

SM will have the "EASY BUTTON" to play with. It will be a non thinking mans army. By that I don't mean you are an idiot to play with, but will be genaric, Jack of all Trades, masters of none, so any one can get into it. It will be the NEWBIES army again.

I think a few new toys will be added. Some new rules to make them a bit more "resliliant" since I think mech will be nerfed a bit now. I think they maybe become more SW Strong. Also more more bigger army so more minis are sold.

I don't think Terminators will become troops, but have options for wound allocations rediculous, unless they get rid of that in 6th edition.

The thought of making bikes and Land Speeders better is a probability, simply so people will buy them.

Money being the obvious thing, they will see what is selling very poorly now and beef them up.

Davor wrote:

SM will have the "EASY BUTTON" to play with. It will be a non thinking mans army.

At least you didn't come to troll...

CT GAMER wrote:

Davor wrote:
SM will have the "EASY BUTTON" to play with. It will be a non thinking mans army.

At least you didn't come to troll...

But he said "This is no to be ment as a dig"; how could he be trolling?

The one thing I'm hoping for but know i want get if for Crimson Fists to take the cover again.

hopefully they bring out the master of the forge figure with conversion beamer.
I don't think they're gonna change too much when they do bring it out though

I could see vanilla SM getting Bolter + Bolt Pistol + CCW standard.

Davor wrote:I don't think Terminators will become troops, but have options for wound allocations rediculous, unless they get rid of that in 6th edition.

Yeah, that's not going to happen. Also, please work on your spelling. I don't see Vanilla Space Marines becoming an easy/win button army, because they never have been. They've always been very middle of the road as far as power levels are concerned.

I just want some fluff that wasn't written by an author who had Robute Guiliman's penis in his mouth...

But otherwise, I'd appreciate them putting some more of the newer vehicles into the vanilla list (I'm not in love with the flying brick or all the Land Raider variants, but making it a codex of many chapters would requiring giving people the option of having them).

I think that 3-4 special characters per Chapter would be nice.
They don't even have to have names.
i.e: White Scar Captain, Imperial Fist Techmarine, etc.
They'd have Chapter specific rules maybe.

I predict in 6th edition bike units will become much more viable as they are a way for GW to make lots of money selling small amounts of plastic. I'd think they have about the highest profit margin of models and how much a squad costs (short of wraithguard)