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So I stumbled upon an auction on E-Bay and I was wondering what this chaplain should be sold for.

Here is the Link

The model itself sells for about $18 usd.

What would you pay for this painted model?

The paint job is clean, but nothing overly amazing that would make me want to pay more than list.

Agreed, it's nice enough, but nothing I'd break the bank over. Even assuming that the photo doesn't do it justice (they often don't), I wouldn't call that more than doubling the value.

DeathReaper wrote:... I was wondering what this chaplain should be sold for.

What would you pay for this painted model?

These two things are not the same.

I wouldn't pay more than retail for it, because I would be just buying it to strip it and repaint. The same would apply to just about any painted miniature that I buy.

What it should be sold for is whatever the painter thinks his time and talent is worth, or is prepared to accept for it.


Note that I'm willing to allow this thread to continue as a discussion on buying painted miniatures... but the moment it looks like devolving into making fun of other people's work, it's history.

You should include an option for cheaper than the list price and an option for not buying it at all.

For me, a lot of the fun comes from assembling, customizing, and painting models. I rarely buy pre-painted models on ebay, unless it's a spectacular deal (like recently when I bought 12 scout sentinels for $90).

If they come painted, I strip them down and repaint them myself, even if my paint job is gakkier than theirs.

If you buy pre-painted, or pay someone to paint your models, you don't have the satisfaction of saying that it's your handiwork when someone compliments your models.

*EXCEPTION: If it was a model pro-painted and signed by one of the GW designers, and it was relatively inexpensive, I might buy it. Just for collection.

*EXCEPTION TO THE EXCEPTION: Matt Ward.

insaniak wrote:

DeathReaper wrote:... I was wondering what this chaplain should be sold for.

What would you pay for this painted model?

These two things are not the same.

I wouldn't pay more than retail for it, because I would be just buying it to strip it and repaint. The same would apply to just about any painted miniature that I buy.

Maybe I should have phrased that differently.

Instead of "what this chaplain should be sold for" I should have said "what is this chaplain worth"

because I was trying to determine if anyone bought models like this, and if so what they have paid for them.

@Nocturn, there is not a cheaper option because the poll assumes that you are buying the painted model to use as is.

No painter is going to buy a model, paint it, then try to sell it for less than list price if they are in the business of painting and selling models.

I thought that was obvious, but I am happy to clarify.

@Nocturn, there is not a cheaper option because the poll assumes that you are buying the painted model to use as is.

No painter is going to buy a model, paint it, then try to sell it for less than list price if they are in the business of painting and selling models.

I thought that was obvious, but I am happy to clarify.

No clarification necessary. I just would not pay retail for it because (if it were priced the same as the new retail miniature) I can buy it brand new, and not have to strip it down first.

I was not trying to say that people should paint their models and sell them for a loss of profit, but was merely stating that I would only buy it if it was cheaper than retail (i.e. if someone needs to sell the item quickly to make some much needed cash, they would probably be willing to take a loss on it). That is what I was referring to in my previous post.

DeathReaper wrote:Instead of "what this chaplain should be sold for" I should have said "what is this chaplain worth"

That's exactly the same question, though.

There is no single, defined method of divining the worth of a painted model. It's worth whatever someone thinks it's worth. In the case of a model being sold, it's worth whatever the painter thinks it is worth. It will sell if someone else comes along who is looking for a model and agrees with the painter's assessment of that worth, or if the painter is willing to settle for whatever it is worth to the potential customer.

insaniak wrote:

DeathReaper wrote:Instead of "what this chaplain should be sold for" I should have said "what is this chaplain worth"

That's exactly the same question, though.

There is no single, defined method of divining the worth of a painted model. It's worth whatever someone thinks it's worth. In the case of a model being sold, it's worth whatever the painter thinks it is worth. It will sell if someone else comes along who is looking for a model and agrees with the painter's assessment of that worth, or if the painter is willing to settle for whatever it is worth to the potential customer.

I think he put that in to clarify.

not 90 buck i can tell you that.

these models are usually at best worth for 120% since the chaplain model colour scheme doesnt changes, and if the level of point is higher than your

$20 sounds pretty reasonable. Personally I'd probably strip it and paint over it since I'd rather paint my own dudes. It doesn't look bad or anything, just not $90 good.

I'd drop 30 for it if it matched my army colors. Otherwise retail. Wait that's finecast right? 50% retail.

£30-$65 Dollars.

I wouldn't personally pay that but we're the Vocal minority. I can name a lot of people who get people to paint their models.

It's a good paintjob but It's a generic one. It's clean and crisp which is a good sign. So as rule of thumb I pay double Retail and a bit more. If I was buying that is.

The time I might buy is if a Golden Daemon Gold Duel winner crops up and only if signed by the Painter or done by 'Eavy metal.

the paint job prob took atleast a few hours. plus the value of the model itself. prob around 35 bucks unless youre one of these guys that selects "i dont like the paint job" or "i would strip it" - in that case the model has little value.


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What do you think this one is worth??? or would you guys strip it too? lol

kb305 wrote:the paint job prob took atleast a few hours. plus the value of the model itself. prob around 35 bucks unless youre one of these guys that selects "i dont like the paint job" or "i would strip it" - in that case the model has little value.


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What do you think this one is worth??? or would you guys strip it too? lol

I'd have a bucket of acetone in my hands for when the mailman drops it off! MUST STRIP IT!

Joking aside, I wouldn't pay much. The paint job is kinda wonky looking to me. The black lines are too think, gives it a comic book look.

I think that one is very nicely painted.

But I don't pay other people to paint models for me. I have bought painted models in the past and kept them as painted, but they've always been cheap. It just happens that I'm happy to keep them as painted because they were nicely done.

I would never pay for a professional paint job just as I wouldn't commission someone to paint for me, so can't put a value on them.

DeathReaper wrote:So I stumbled upon an auction on E-Bay and I was wondering what this chaplain should be sold for.

Here is the Link

The model itself sells for about $18 usd.

What would you pay for this painted model?

I'll break down what i think its worth.

1) It matters not to me whether the color matches, someone's effort is time = money. We can calculate with that alone.
However, I cannot give a fair judgement of the time it would take to produce that, the picture is waaaaaay too small.
As in, if it was me, reproducing what I can see in the tiny picture ( Without assumptions ) It might only take 50 mins.
So i say the $30-$35 range.

2) Or if we do assume ( e.g the shading and high lights are actually painted instead of created by a light box light source )
One can say it can add the value.

3) Because i dont like guessing what im buying, i will take it as an precaution that there IS a reason why the photo is so small.
( After all which painter wouldn't want to justify their effort with a proper pic? )

Necroshea wrote:

kb305 wrote:the paint job prob took atleast a few hours. plus the value of the model itself. prob around 35 bucks unless youre one of these guys that selects "i dont like the paint job" or "i would strip it" - in that case the model has little value.


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http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Warhammer-40k-Blood-Angels-Sanguinary-Priest-/250930109273?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item3a6c999b59

What do you think this one is worth??? or would you guys strip it too? lol

I'd have a bucket of acetone in my hands for when the mailman drops it off! MUST STRIP IT!

Joking aside, I wouldn't pay much. The paint job is kinda wonky looking to me. The black lines are too think, gives it a comic book look.

This was rude and unneccesary

Agree with Insaniak and Nocturn. Would not pay more than the figure goes for retail.

The painting is okay but nothing special imho
Nice and clean as said, but with another $10 for postage making it a ton I think the seller is being a tad optimistic

To be fair, i dont think OP is asking for the price of assumption that its bought to be stripped.

Rather bought because the customer might find the mini to be matching / acceptable to be bought painted.

kb305 wrote:youre right. this is how a true master does it ^

Please expand on your point, I do not follow.

Edit - Wonky formatting.

kb305 wrote:

Necroshea wrote:

kb305 wrote:the paint job prob took atleast a few hours. plus the value of the model itself. prob around 35 bucks unless youre one of these guys that selects "i dont like the paint job" or "i would strip it" - in that case the model has little value.


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http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Warhammer-40k-Blood-Angels-Sanguinary-Priest-/250930109273?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item3a6c999b59

What do you think this one is worth??? or would you guys strip it too? lol

I'd have a bucket of acetone in my hands for when the mailman drops it off! MUST STRIP IT!

Joking aside, I wouldn't pay much. The paint job is kinda wonky looking to me. The black lines are too think, gives it a comic book look.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/147386-WIP%20Fist%20of%20Midas%20Seargent%20%28Front%29.html

youre right. this is how a true master does it ^

I chuckled, but lets not make fun of each other please
I wouldn't buy it because I like painting my own, but if I was forced too, maybe 20-30 bucks

That sanguinary priest model, on the other hand, is painted well enough I'd go for $40-$50 on it no problem, if I was into buying pre-painted models.

It was obviously painted by someone with considerable skill, and took a good deal of time.

I chuckled also. Reminds me of Pochontasses dad. In the old Video Quality. Mocking aside.

For the second one I would pay not much at all. The red Is very flat It seems to me he thought by slapping OSL on a model It makes it worth a lot.

Battle Brother Lucifer wrote:
I chuckled, but lets not make fun of each other please

So, you goad him on, then proceed to say not to? Come now, there's no need to even bring it up.

Anyways, I stand by my painting skills from more than a year ago. People liked it then, and people like my improved skills now. Because I didn't like that paint job does not mean I'm saying that mine is better. Saying if a someones cooking tastes like crap it does not imply the speaker is a better cook. I imagine this is a case of I like something he doesn't like, and he's getting bent out of shape about it, which is silly.

Necroshea wrote:

Battle Brother Lucifer wrote:
I chuckled, but lets not make fun of each other please

So, you goad him on, then proceed to say not to? Come now, there's no need to even bring it up.

Anyways, I stand by my painting skills from more than a year ago. People liked it then, and people like my improved skills now. Because I didn't like that paint job does not mean I'm saying that mine is better. Saying if a someones cooking tastes like crap it does not imply the speaker is a better cook. I imagine this is a case of I like something he doesn't like, and he's getting bent out of shape about it, which is silly.

Lets be honest, it would be wrong for me to act all high and mighty about it. I admit it was funny, but then said we shouldn't make fun of each other.
And don't worry. Looking back at some of my old models, my painting was BAD. Your model was fine, its just you were saying a well painted model was bad, etc etc

Battle Brother Lucifer wrote: its just you were saying a well painted model was bad, etc etc

Ah, now there's the interesting bit in all this. The model, whether good or bad looking, is entirely based on the viewer. I'm very much in my right to decree that I don't like the model and think it ugly. In my view, I'm completely right about this. You may disagree, and that's fine as you're entitled to it. Just because you don't agree with someone doesn't mean one of you is wrong and the other right. People are so...sensitive these days.

Still, I must say that my feelings are still intact, and I won't be losing any sleep over it. For added jest, because back then when I refused to do the eyes, my friend said my models looked like they had skin growing over the eyes. That was enough motivation to stop being lazy with the eyes.

You could commission some of the people in the Army painters thread for cheaper AND get a better painted model.

Is the Model Painted Well? I'd say so.
Is it worth 90 USD? Not a chance.

Necroshea wrote:

Battle Brother Lucifer wrote:
I chuckled, but lets not make fun of each other please

So, you goad him on, then proceed to say not to? Come now, there's no need to even bring it up.

Anyways, I stand by my painting skills from more than a year ago. People liked it then, and people like my improved skills now. Because I didn't like that paint job does not mean I'm saying that mine is better. Saying if a someones cooking tastes like crap it does not imply the speaker is a better cook. I imagine this is a case of I like something he doesn't like, and he's getting bent out of shape about it, which is silly.

You may not like the comic book look, but it is no where near deserving of stripping which is what you suggested. You appear to be standing in a glass house with a brick in your hand, maybe you don't like that being pointed out to you?

The Sanguinary Priest is easily on the better end of stuff posted on Dakka. If that was in the gallery I would likely give it 7-8 on the painting score. It's neat, got gradients of shading and highlighting, the gemstones are very nicely done, the basing is good, there's a bit of conversion work.

It's a good piece. Not sure it's $55 good, but on it's own merits that is well painted and would get a lot of positive comments if posted in the showcase section.

Agreed^