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I'm thinking about getting a Fantasy team. I was thinking about either Beastmen, Dwarfs, Lizardmen, Orges, or Warriors of Chaos. Could you guys tell me a little more about them?

Beastmen
- Horde army, high model count
- Above average combat ability, Gors are your mainstay combat units and have good toughness and WS at the expense of armor.
- Very tough combat characters and competent wizards, good selection of magic items.
- Access to a number of pretty cool but overpriced monsters.
- Not the easiest army to use from what Iv read.

Dwarves
- Primarily a gunline army, due mainly to incredibly average movement across the board and access to plenty of war machines.
- Tough and very well armed and armored with a basic leadership of 9.
- No magic ability, offset by a very strong magic defense.
- Runes instead of magic items. Acts like a 'create-your-own' magic item thing...

Lizardmen
- One of the best 'All-rounder' armies and great for beginners. Can compete in every phase.
- Saurus Warriors are among some of the best core troops in the game and despite being short ranged skinks are very efficient shooters.
- Extremely tough combat heroes and Slann are probably the premier magic users in the game.
- Access to some fantastic monsters and IMHO have probably the best looking range of models in the game.

Ogres
- Smallest model-count army made up almost entirely by monstrous infantry that can really dish out a lot of attacks.
- Monstrous infantry cause impact hits when charging, so my previous point is probably doubly true...
- Do require assistance by way of magic, probably not an army that would be easy to play for a beginner.
- With their recent re-release got a lot of new models that are quite spectacular.

Warriors of Chaos
- Elite combat/magic army, low model count.
- Chaos warriors rank as probably the hardest core troops in fantasy and even hordes of Marauders with great weapons can cause all kinds of damage.
- All character choices are incredibly tough and their wizards have access to some very powerful magic lores.
- Can be considered a bit of a 'point and click' army, which makes them ideal for beginners.

Very brief but hope that gives some insight...

Nice, I think after that I'm leaning on Lizard men....

Come on over to CHaos we are so much fun!!
You get to play with cool and rather evil looking models. Have access to marks from the various gods of chaos. But you have to be into the evil as can be bad guys.

I was just about to say, ehh I might be Warriors of Chaos because of the evilness...

You cannot resist the lure of Kaaay-hos.

Chaos chaos chaos come to the dark side. We have giants, trolls, ogres, dragons and other beasts we have cheap infantry the Skilled armored plated killing machines which are warriors and the barbaric tribesmen marauders.
Big dark scary lord that will beat anything in a fight and the scheming sorcerers.
Lots of options lots of cool stuff good fluff and really awesome models.

Dwarves Or Lizardman are both very forgiving armies to use for a beginner and both are very fun.

Beastmen sounds like the army for you, it is thrue they take some time to get the hang of. BUT when you do you will regulary trash you opponents. Gors are as mentioned before above avarage in combat, and when you run a 40+ horde with the correct choice of backup you will kill just about anything.

I'm partial to Beastmen, I came into WHFB a virgin but quickly turned into a grizzled pornstar. Of course though I had a rough idea of what my army was going to be. Plenty of Gors...Backed by Small packs of Ungor raiders.

Dwarves seconded. Shoot the feth out of everything that moves.

Beastmen are fairly widely considered to be sort of unlucky in the current edition. Many of their units are overpriced and their playstyle is limited- limited shooting, no heavy cavalry. I would not see them as a beginner's army, however if you like the models and the feel of the army then go for it, often these concerns only matter in competitive play. I used to play Beastmen but sold them just before the new edition.

Dwarves are a slow moving, tough, elite army. They have excellent warmachines and some okay shooting on their infantry, but they are primarily a "combined arms" army where you need big blocks of combat infantry to win. Recommend heading over to the Battle Reports section and reading a few of Red Zekes (very entertaining) battle reports. I play Dwarves. For a beginner, unless you really like them, I think they are also a bit limited, as you don't get to have cavalry or magic.

Lizardmen are an elite all rounders army. They are reasonably forgiving due to their leadership rules, and have some strong builds using the Slann mage priests as magical powerhouses to buff your elite saurus infantry. The Skinks provide missile/skirmisher support and you have some funky monsters and auxiliary units to provide some impressive shooting and combat. I think they are a good beginner's army (I started with them, though that was back in 5th edition) and a good way to learn the game as they provide a bit of everything except fast cavalry.

Chaos are a pretty popular army, and they have a lot going for them. They are an elite close combat army primarily, though they can get some quite nice comparatively cheap troops too. Powerful heroes and monsters are also a feature. They have extremely limited shooting however (basically just the Hellcannon) and don't have any dirt cheap troops. I also play Chaos. I think they are a good army if you don't mind starting out with something a little 2 dimensional.

I would say first and foremost, go with the army whose miniatures appeal to you. Rules come and go, and any of these armies can be made to work, but if you get miniatures you're not enthusiastic about then you're into a little bit of trouble. If you like them all equally, I would say Lizardmen give the most complete experience, Chaos are a good beginners army despite having a more defined playstyle, and Dwarves are a lot of fun if you don't mind being slow and having no magic. Beastmen I would choose if you love the models and background, but expect a challenge.

Nay you knaves. You should come over to the side of chilvery. Become a knight of Bretonnia. Just my two cents.

Buy Kay-oas is pretty popular. If a bit spikey.

Alirght Da Boss, If I had to choose because of the looks of models it would be Lizardmen or Warriors of Chaos.

Warriors of Chaos give the exact kind of evil I like. Its not interpretable, like "oh these guys might have a good side" without having to be: http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1910662a_99800207007_KonradVonCarst01_873x627.jpg


Lizardmen are very cool. I love there aztec-y feel.


So I guess my choice is between

Option A: Aztec Lizards
http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m2210032_99120208010_LizardmenBatallion1_873x627.jpg
and
http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m2180091_99120208008_LizardmenStegadon1_873x627.jpg

Option B: The Physical Manifestation of Evil
http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1184559_99120201006_ChaosWarriorsChaosMain_873x627.jpg
and
http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1950082_99110201206_WoCKhorneLordJuggernaut1_873x627.jpg

Ya woc are bad guys no questions asked they kill everything and everyone for the dark gods.

They have the best core in the game. Warriors have crazy stat lines making them worth their points. You wont have many guys running around but those that are will kill almost anything.

Marauders not as cool looking but still pretty darn awesome.

Lots of cool magic items and such to play around with.

Lords are awesome super powerful caster or rage filled combat lords that show up and destroy entire units by themselves.

The options are also there to take lots and lots of monsters in an army list like trolls ogres dragon ogres and more.


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Go with chaos it is lots of fun and you have access to a lot of cool models as well as awesome story.

Join Chaos! We have Trolls!

But seriously, go with WoC. They have some of the games best magic items, hardest troopers and most amazing models!

I have made my choice. I will be Lizardmen.

Javert: "But monsieur mayor!"

I will be Lizardmen!

Javert: "But monsieur mayor!"

I will be LIZARDMEN!

Beastmen are the true Children of Chaos. Men who worship the Gods of Chaos do so for their own desire of glory, wealth, power, pleasure and immortality. Beastmen worship the Chaos Gods instinctively, we don't have the choice, we are Chaos!

Hargus56 wrote:Beastmen are the true Children of Chaos. Men who worship the Gods of Chaos do so for their own desire of glory, wealth, power, pleasure and immortality. Beastmen worship the Chaos Gods instinctively, we don't have the choice, we are Chaos!

This wins this tread, but sadly OP went witht he walking handbags........ Its a sad day when someone playes Lizzard folk indeed

WoC and Ogres are probably the cheapest options monetarily (highest $ to point ratio), though you won't necessarily have the best build if you cheap it up too much.

I play Ogres because I like having few BIG models. Ogres hit hard, fly across the board, and take a lot of effort to bring down. They now have the coolest cavalry in the game (mournfangs). Their unique magical lore (lore:maw) is a ton of fun, and they have access to the most beneficial lores for them. Especially beast and life. Learning how to magic is important, but it is ABSOLUTELY VITAL for Ogres.

Dwarves are slow, but hard as diamonds. They have cool warmachines, they can hit or shoot, or both, but the only unit they have that can move quickly is the gyrocopter (which looks really cool). They don't have wizards, but getting a ton of dispel dice is fairly important, and not particularly difficult (expecially if you run an anvil of doom, and have the right mix of runes). Learning how to rune is important, and it gives you the most flexible equipment in the game.

Beastmen - never played nor played against.

WoC - Big Burly Viking doods. They are kinda the SM of WHFB, and they play as close to that as any fantasy army could.

Lizardmen are the mario of the game. They can do whatever, not horrible at anything. They have awesome magicians, and their infantry is pretty good. They tend to be bad at ranged combat, but it's an issue of range, not accuracy.

Woc is almost like csm without the shooting. But think more like they are all champions because warriors are better than all core infantry and better than lots of special or rare choice infantry. They are big scary combat monsters that do it all in the name of the dark gods.
Lots of fun to play as cool stuff sweet models 3 special lores (tzeentch nurgle and slaanesh).

Ogres are fun as well big scary ogres running at your opponent its good times with impact hits and stomps and all that.

I tend to think, given all of their special rules, that Ogres are as good as WoC Warriors, but given that they are smaller, and cheaper I suppose the case could be made if you like horde armies

Yeah, it mainly came down to which team looked the coolest. And for me it was the lizards riding dinosaurs.