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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/26 14:10:16
Subject: What armour marks would the Traitor Legions have?
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Possessed Khorne Marine Covered in Spikes
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I have a minor obsession with the different marks of power armour (being partial to Mk6 Corvus armour especially), and I've done my research, but I'm not exactly sure which marks the traitor legions would have access to.
It looks like they would have a majority of MK5, with some MK4 and earlier scattered. What i would like to know from the community is, would the original traitor legions have access to MK6? According to what I read, it was in development after the Mk4 armour, so I think its believable that a very small minority of marines in the traitors would have MK6 alongside those with MK5. Is this correct? or would the only way one of the original traitors have MK6 be through looting it from the battlefield?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/26 14:31:14
Subject: What armour marks would the Traitor Legions have?
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Executing Exarch
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They would havee some newer marks thrown in, from more recent traitors and from pieces of armour scavenged for repairs. If you want Mk. 6 and Mk. 7 armour, then go for it!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/26 23:32:10
Subject: What armour marks would the Traitor Legions have?
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Perfect Shot Black Templar Predator Pilot
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They would wear whatever it is they can find or make on their own. I'm sure they don't really have Mk sets, but just a production of whatever they can make in their forges in the eye of terror.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/27 00:28:06
Subject: What armour marks would the Traitor Legions have?
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Veteran Inquisitorial Tyranid Xenokiller
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They typically don't have full suits of power armour from one Mk or another, but they do have pieces from any Mk set. This is due to any recent influx of new Traitor forces of Space Marines. It is entirely possible that your warband has a fascination with the Mk 6 Corvus pattern suit and collects them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/27 01:01:42
Subject: What armour marks would the Traitor Legions have?
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Sinewy Scourge
Lawrence, KS
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I could see conservative elements within the Traitor Legions refusing to use any mark of armor made after the Heresy that was not of their own design, as that indicates an acceptance of the newer technology of the Corpse God and His followers rather than faith in their own might and pride. New Armor is for the Weak, followers of a failing empire who can not make choices for themselves. Sheep who need to be clad in iron to cover their own frail, callow hearts.
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Therion wrote:6th edition lands on June 23rd!
Good news. This is the best time in the hobby. Full of promise. GW lets us down each time and we know it but secretly we're hoping that this is the edition that GW gives us a balanced game that can also be played competitively at tournaments. I'm loving it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/27 01:43:40
Subject: What armour marks would the Traitor Legions have?
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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Other than the aforementioned statements about Chaos marine using/manufacturing whatever Mk. armour they can find, I also believe that during the Horus Heresy, many of the Traitor legions managed to get hold of large stocks of the 'newer' Mk. 5 and 6. I could be wrong, but I recall Horus and the Fabricator General striking a deal that ensured Horus' legions would be able to obtain vast quantities of the newer marks of power armour, to ensure they have an advantage during the war.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/27 13:10:12
Subject: What armour marks would the Traitor Legions have?
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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The Traitor Legions have largely Mk. 5 Power Armor. They have some Mk. 7s and Mk. 8s, but these are usually tribute from renegade Chapters in exchange for assistance. The renegades usually make use of Mk. 7 Power Armor.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/27 21:17:43
Subject: What armour marks would the Traitor Legions have?
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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Well Horus routed the superior mkIV plate to his "favoured" legions during the run up to the heresy as much as possible I would say mkV was pretty common too, MkVI would be more of a rarity as it was first deployed by the loyalists during the siege pf terra so really the only way traitors would get hold of it would be through scavenging.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/28 05:36:47
Subject: Re:What armour marks would the Traitor Legions have?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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The original traitors would have mostly had Mk5 and earlier. Mk7(the armor used by the modern chapters of marines) was developed after the horus heresy had erupted and wasn't avaliable to the traitors. Mk6 was avaliable, but in limited quantities. Mk5 was, at the time of the heresy, almost exclusivly funneled to the traitors so they would have large quantities of this mark.
However, in the centuries since, the traitors have been bolstered by renegade marines, both chapters and individuals, that would almost exclusivly have Mk7 armor. the original traitors will also have scavanged suits and pieces of Mk7 from the battlefield to replace their aging suits. Successive marks are also better then the older ones so they would also do this out of a desire for better protection and features.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/29 14:21:22
Subject: Re:What armour marks would the Traitor Legions have?
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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Grey Templar wrote:The original traitors would have mostly had Mk5 and earlier. Mk7(the armor used by the modern chapters of marines) was developed after the horus heresy had erupted and wasn't avaliable to the traitors. Mk6 was avaliable, but in limited quantities. Mk5 was, at the time of the heresy, almost exclusivly funneled to the traitors so they would have large quantities of this mark.
However, in the centuries since, the traitors have been bolstered by renegade marines, both chapters and individuals, that would almost exclusivly have Mk7 armor. the original traitors will also have scavanged suits and pieces of Mk7 from the battlefield to replace their aging suits. Successive marks are also better then the older ones so they would also do this out of a desire for better protection and features.
Mk 5 and Mk 7 are roughly equal in terms of performance, but Mk 5 is just less efficient. Mk 6 was a catch-up mod used by the loyalists in the Horus Heresy.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/29 15:21:27
Subject: What armour marks would the Traitor Legions have?
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Water-Caste Negotiator
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Desperate times call for desperate measures. I'm sure if their helmet or gauntlet was destroyed by bolter fire, they would pluck another dead traitor/loyalist's armor and modify it to fit. Hell, if you read the nightlord and storm of iron i think it was, they roll around with unpainted armor sometimes, some dawning imperial fist armor still yellow.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/29 16:48:36
Subject: Re:What armour marks would the Traitor Legions have?
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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Tadashi wrote:Grey Templar wrote:The original traitors would have mostly had Mk5 and earlier. Mk7(the armor used by the modern chapters of marines) was developed after the horus heresy had erupted and wasn't avaliable to the traitors. Mk6 was avaliable, but in limited quantities. Mk5 was, at the time of the heresy, almost exclusivly funneled to the traitors so they would have large quantities of this mark.
However, in the centuries since, the traitors have been bolstered by renegade marines, both chapters and individuals, that would almost exclusivly have Mk7 armor. the original traitors will also have scavanged suits and pieces of Mk7 from the battlefield to replace their aging suits. Successive marks are also better then the older ones so they would also do this out of a desire for better protection and features.
Mk 5 and Mk 7 are roughly equal in terms of performance, but Mk 5 is just less efficient. Mk 6 was a catch-up mod used by the loyalists in the Horus Heresy.
mk 5 and 6 were both stop gap armours but in terms of comparison between 5 and 7; 5 was much easier to produce but as you said it was much much less efficient and also had large amounts of exposed power cabling making it much more susceptible to damage and wear and tear.
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