Forgeworld 2019 News & Rumours-BA Dawnbreakers Pg 163

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**Danny76**

Jadenim wrote:
queen_annes_revenge wrote:
When I spoke to Simon Egan at the Heresy weekender he mentioned the emperor getting a model. Not explicitly but as a designer I figured he'd probably be in the know. Chaos horus would be cool as long as its not too cartoony.

If I were FW I would very seriously consider not giving him rules; just do the model as a collectors piece, to round our the set.

Definitely the way they should go I think

**GaroRobe**

If they did do that, people would be complaining that he has no rules, which would suck. Not 30k/40k related, but I'm surprised Forgeworld hasn't made a Sigmar model yet, for AOS. The Mortal Realms are full of gods, like Morathi and Nagash, so a Sigmar model wouldn't be completely crazy

**Overread**

AoS is a bit odd though in how its got the Gods on the Table and honestly Nagash and such actually feel quite significantly underpowered compared to their lore versions. Morathi is likely a touch closer as she's only a demi-god not an actual god (she missed out on godhood as she was languishing in Slaanesh's belly)

**queen_annes_revenge**

I'm interested in how they'd do the emperor and how people would paint him. I'm imagining something similar to xerxes in 300, as he's always described as being gold for some reason.

**mortar_crew**

queen_annes_revenge wrote:
I'm interested in how they'd do the emperor and how people would paint him. I'm imagining something similar to xerxes in 300, as he's always described as being gold for some reason.

Well Xerces would seem more of a Slaanesh thing to me but...

**John Prins**

It's sad that FW Blood Bowl minotaurs look 1000% better than GW minotaurs.

**endlesswaltz123**

I think you just balance the emperor in point cost.

He'd be quite easy to do rule wise in 8th edition. He's no different to a warlord titan in some ways. Yeah super powered, but with a high enough point cost, you could bring enough on the other sized to start taking chunks out of the wound count.

Maybe some sort of special rule where the power is held back in terms of psychic etc until he is low wounds (Inverse of the current way monsters and vehicles are) to represent him not unleashing his full might till he needs too.

That's 8th edition anyway, maybe something similar in terms of he gets better closer to death could be done for the heresy era rules.

**Racerguy180**

Danny76 wrote:
Jadenim wrote:
queen_annes_revenge wrote:
When I spoke to Simon Egan at the Heresy weekender he mentioned the emperor getting a model. Not explicitly but as a designer I figured he'd probably be in the know. Chaos horus would be cool as long as its not too cartoony.

If I were FW I would very seriously consider not giving him rules; just do the model as a collectors piece, to round our the set.

Definitely the way they should go I think

ditto

maybe they could do Malcador as well.

Chaos infused Horus is a 50/50 for me. If they did a final showdown set with Biggie and him, it would only work if they got the poses and stylistically spot on it would be an insane centerpiece. But FW would be walkin a fine line and could screw it up quite easily.

**Danny76**

Nagash is a tricky one as A he had always had a model. B the new powerful remade model was still Fantasy, and as we know models come first so could have been a while before, like before AoS conceptualization and such.
Lore wise now, they are making him (rightly so) as powerful as all the other Gods, so I think he’s just stuck as he has a model already.
It’s like making an actual Khorne model I guess.

Morathi, I don’t think comes into the same thing. She’s powerful, but no where near the gods levels

**Xanthos**

ImAGeek wrote:
Malika2 wrote:
What is that artwork on the Spartan?

Skeleton with a sword, by the looks of things.

In the seminar, the artist explained that he wanted this design to be a counterpoint to the Blood Angels Spartan, so it's another aspect of the "Angel of Death" motif. In this case, the skeletal avenger, who looms out of the darkness.

**Yodhrin**

Danny76 wrote:
Nagash is a tricky one as A he had always had a model. B the new powerful remade model was still Fantasy, and as we know models come first so could have been a while before, like before AoS conceptualization and such.
Lore wise now, they are making him (rightly so) as powerful as all the other Gods, so I think he’s just stuck as he has a model already.
It’s like making an actual Khorne model I guess.

Morathi, I don’t think comes into the same thing. She’s powerful, but no where near the gods levels

We know that they were working on AoS for a lot longer than most people thought. I'd bet money everything that came out during ET was a stealth AoS release, Nagash included.

**kenbian**

Xanthos wrote:
ImAGeek wrote:

In the seminar, the artist explained that he wanted this design to be a counterpoint to the Blood Angels Spartan, so it's another aspect of the "Angel of Death" motif. In this case, the skeletal avenger, who looms out of the darkness.

Have you over info about 30k Dark Angels please? About the rules, the fig and iconography?

**Xanthos**

kenbian wrote:
Xanthos wrote:
ImAGeek wrote:

In the seminar, the artist explained that he wanted this design to be a counterpoint to the Blood Angels Spartan, so it's another aspect of the "Angel of Death" motif. In this case, the skeletal avenger, who looms out of the darkness.

Have you over info about 30k Dark Angels please? About the rules, the fig and iconography?

Not a lot, but some things were said at the seminar.

They are going for a "Terran Tech" feel for the Dark Angels. With them being the first legion, and having joined the crusade before the union with Mars, they will have relics and gear that's not associated with Mars, but with the Terran tech clans.

For the upcoming book, they are not going to debate the loyalty of the legion. They're loyal and that's that for now. The more "questionable" characters will likely come in a later release.

They want to work on the hexagrammaton and the orders a lot more, and how they affect the Dark Angel ways of war. The art and miniatures they showed off were covered in iconography, which the designers say, is how thry see the Dark Angels. Lots of subtle clues about which orders, circles and other stuff this particular marine is involved with. Most of it useless unless you're also "in the know".

**Hbbyaddict**

Any word at all of when the Runstorm Daemons are coming? super excited for the brutes and the winged one.

**Xanthos**

Sadly, no. Though we may be in for a wait, since they weren't on early release at the 'Fest.

The new Knights (big and two different small), the Custodes Assault Flyer, the Ebon Keshig, the Hobbit Holes and a LOTR character were on early release. So it is likely that we will see these released first.

That's Not to say that changes to the release pattern are impossible, but they usually release all of the early release stuff before going on to new stuff.

**CragHack**

So, literally nothing today?

**BrookM**

Plastic halfling team and the Necromunda heroes going up for preorder tomorrow are this week's FW releases.

**VictorVonTzeentch**

So literally nothing then

**BrookM**

Them having a breather every once in a while isn't a bad thing either.

**H.B.M.C.**

BrookM wrote:
Them having a breather every once in a while isn't a bad thing either.

This is true. We could go back to the endless weeks of un-releases.

Nothing is better than a reduction.

**aracersss**

link to this isn't working

**H.B.M.C.**

That is one fugly Treeman.

**beast_gts**

Deeproot Strongbranch, and the return of the Blood Bowl Referees.

**godswildcard**

You know, now that I see the tree man next to the halflings, I really don't mind it as much. I feel like it fits with them.

Glad the referees have made a return!

**tneva82**

FW releases marines. "Release something other than marines!"

FW releases non-marines: "okay so this week they released nothin"

**queen_annes_revenge**

Trying to please nerds is like trying to push water uphill.

**Irbis**

Danny76 wrote:
At one point there was talk of a second version of several as the get Chaosified.

Why bother? Plastic chaos primarchs are supposed to look exactly like they did in HH (being immortal and all), just give them HH rules and be done with it.

Unless it's another episode of "we hate GW plastics, let's pretend Blood Angels deputy leader, archangels and honor guard didn't exist in HH" FW idiocy

Danny76 wrote:
Not on the emperor actually coming..

Except we know he is coming, at least two armies now have references in rules for him being on the table.

**pm713**

Where are they? I haven't noticed Big E references anywhere.

**VictorVonTzeentch**

pm713 wrote:
Where are they? I haven't noticed Big E references anywhere.

Valdor, Krole and the Tribune (Unless Valdor or Krole is there) must be your Warlord unless The Emperor of Mankind is present

**Yodhrin**

tneva82 wrote:
FW releases marines. "Release something other than marines!"

FW releases non-marines: "okay so this week they released nothin"

Mmm yes, I'm sure Halflings and a Treeman are of great use to a 40K or 30K player who wanted armies other than Marines to be given some FW attention.

Come on guys, at least read through your snark a couple of times before you hit Submit to check if they can stand even the most cursory application of logic