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2011/12/05 06:50:28
Subject: Emperor's wargear
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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Does anyone know the Emperor's wargear? We know he has a gold-plated artificer armor, what look like a flaming runesword/force weapon and a talon-shaped lightning claw, not to mention a psychic hood crossed with an iron halo (or that could just be his psychic aura)...
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2011/12/05 07:02:39
Subject: Emperor's wargear
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Jealous that Horus is Warmaster
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The Big E could slay armies naked. Doesn't really matter.
Flaming sword, TDA/Artificer Armor, lightning eagle talon...
He doesn't seem to have a psychic hood or an iron halo to me.
He just had the best of the best but never seen the man with a gun. I guess he has his mind for that.
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2011/12/05 07:04:53
Subject: Emperor's wargear
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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I was referring to that aquila behind his head. That might have been a crossed iron halo-psychic hood.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2011/12/05 10:06:48
Subject: Emperor's wargear
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Regular Dakkanaut
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The Emperor never has a static setup from what I believe. He just goes with whatever he feels is best for the mission at hand. BrainDeleted wrote:He just had the best of the best but never seen the man with a gun. I guess he has his mind for that.
Never seen the big E with a gun? Now you have. 
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2011/12/05 14:41:24
Subject: Re:Emperor's wargear
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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Great picture 
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2011/12/05 16:10:37
Subject: Re:Emperor's wargear
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Xeno-Hating Inquisitorial Excruciator
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He defeated the Void Dragon with a spear and a loin cloth. You can find a picture in the Rulebook and the SM codex I'm sure, it's on the door of the eternity gate of the Imperial palace. Automatically Appended Next Post: Greyish wrote:The Emperor never has a static setup from what I believe. He just goes with whatever he feels is best for the mission at hand.
BrainDeleted wrote:He just had the best of the best but never seen the man with a gun. I guess he has his mind for that.
Never seen the big E with a gun? Now you have.
Now, he can be a gangster.
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2011/12/05 18:10:43
Subject: Emperor's wargear
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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In the Horus Heresy accounts/images he has a Force Sword and a lightning claw that's shaped like an eagle talon.
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My Armies:
5,500pts 
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2011/12/06 00:12:56
Subject: Emperor's wargear
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
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Son you can insult me, you can ambush me, you can even take away my weapons. But if you think im going to step one single pinky toe inside blue base with out my SHOTGUN... you must not know who you dealing with.
I said move...
and i said SHOTGUN...
yes I have your shotgun
no.. i mean SHOT...-GUN
what is this... you think im going to give you your shotgun back because you asked???
i said SHOTGUN.... SHOTGUN DAMMIT!!!
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2011/12/06 00:21:34
Subject: Emperor's wargear
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Jealous that Horus is Warmaster
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Completely forgot about that ancient picture with the bolter! Good catch.
The halo over his head in the Big E vs. Big H picture just looks like a normal angel halo thing to me...
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2011/12/06 00:47:33
Subject: Re:Emperor's wargear
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Kind of a rant... but I think it's stupid how the Crux Terminatus has a itty bitty sliver of the Emperor's armor from his showdown with Horus. I'm not sure why it bugs me, but it does. 
You would think they would have put his armor in a status field or in the palace museum or something. You know... for when he comes back. He'll need it! 
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2011/12/06 00:49:27
Subject: Emperor's wargear
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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He isn't coming back...
He's either gonna die, be reincarnated or become a god in the warp...
The first 2 won't be great for the IoM but the last one should be good.
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Dakka Bingo! By Ouze
"You are the best at flying things"-Kanluwen
"Further proof that Purple is a fething brilliant super villain " -KingCracker
"Purp.. Im pretty sure I have a gun than can reach you...."-Nicorex
"That's not really an apocalypse. That's just Europe."-Grakmar
"almost as good as winning free cake at the tea drinking contest for an Englishman." -Reds8n
Seal up your lips and give no words but mum.
Equip, Reload. Do violence.
Watch for Gerry. |
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2011/12/06 00:50:45
Subject: Re:Emperor's wargear
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I'm kidding.
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2011/12/06 00:52:29
Subject: Emperor's wargear
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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You think you are.
But really you're to afraid to admit the truth... or something...
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Dakka Bingo! By Ouze
"You are the best at flying things"-Kanluwen
"Further proof that Purple is a fething brilliant super villain " -KingCracker
"Purp.. Im pretty sure I have a gun than can reach you...."-Nicorex
"That's not really an apocalypse. That's just Europe."-Grakmar
"almost as good as winning free cake at the tea drinking contest for an Englishman." -Reds8n
Seal up your lips and give no words but mum.
Equip, Reload. Do violence.
Watch for Gerry. |
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2011/12/06 00:59:41
Subject: Emperor's wargear
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Tough Tyrant Guard
Firing my Hellgun into a Fire Warrior's head....
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After he brought down the void dragon he made the armour out of its essence and this is what is on mars now...... duh.
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"We are judged in life by the evil we destroy."
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2011/12/06 01:49:27
Subject: Re:Emperor's wargear
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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The Emperor had whatever he wanted to have at the time, and he really didn't need anything at all because of his psychic abilities.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
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2011/12/06 04:26:55
Subject: Emperor's wargear
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Purposeful Hammerhead Pilot
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I always assumed the psychic bit, given I doubt he was born all 10 feet tall and hulking mass. This assumed because of his sliding through history unnoticed and being born during a time when people were short and stuff. Which really isn't to say he wasn't born the size of his mother, its 40k, that is possible.
Anyway, I've always assumed all the pictures were how he wanted to be seen, not how he actually appeared.
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2011/12/06 05:47:28
Subject: Re:Emperor's wargear
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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As far as I know there's no models or rules for the Emperor, so I came up with some.
Anathema
-the Emperor is anathema to the creatures of the warp. Such beings are weakened in proximity to the Emperor.
-as long as the Emperor is on the field, all failed rolls to wound on daemons may be re-rolled
-daemons are required to re-roll all successful saves
Master of Mankind
-the Emperor's mere presence inspires His subjects to acts of heroism.
-as long as the Emperor is on the field, all Imperial units have the Fearless universal rule
Perfect Psyker
-the Emperor's control of the warp surpasses all others.
-the Emperor may use three psychic powers per turn; automatically passes all psychic tests.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2011/12/06 17:41:00
Subject: Emperor's wargear
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Regular Dakkanaut
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purplefood wrote:You think you are.
But really you're to afraid to admit the truth... or something...
*looks around nervously*
Uhmm n-n-no I-I-I'm kidding... I-I-I am! *nervous chuckle*
Oh god I think the inquisition is at my door...
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2011/12/08 17:08:26
Subject: Emperor's wargear
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I think he has a shield of some sort
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' All men are equal in darkness, save those who embrace it ' Captain Shrike raven guard 3rd company  |
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2011/12/08 20:07:09
Subject: Re:Emperor's wargear
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I don't recall ever seeing him with a shield. Nor does "god emperor of mankind shield" return any results in images. Golden artificer armor, power claw, flame sword are standard issue for the most part.
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2011/12/08 23:57:17
Subject: Re:Emperor's wargear
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Boosting Ultramarine Biker
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IronSnake wrote:Kind of a rant... but I think it's stupid how the Crux Terminatus has a itty bitty sliver of the Emperor's armor from his showdown with Horus. I'm not sure why it bugs me, but it does.
You would think they would have put his armor in a status field or in the palace museum or something. You know... for when he comes back. He'll need it!
Maybe the Crux Terminatus doesn't have any piece of the Big E's armor. They just tell the terminators that to feel good .
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2011/12/09 00:37:33
Subject: Re:Emperor's wargear
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Regular Dakkanaut
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lol Could be.
I mean on one hand it's kinda neat. On the other ... that wargear had to have been held to a very high and later, holy standard. It's a relic. It is something that worshippers would pilgrimage far and wide to come and see. Why they would chop it up to use in a symbol on termie shoulder armor is.. odd.
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2011/12/09 01:16:46
Subject: Re:Emperor's wargear
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Well the Emperor's armor was rent and torn by horus in their battle, so likely it was easy to part it out for use in the crux terminatus, and if the big E ever gets done with his eternal power dump, then I am sure he can commision a new set, of even spiffier armor.
The shards they place in those Cruxs is like the saints bones and other holy parapenalia that saturates the IoM, helps fuel the faith engine. 
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2011/12/09 01:18:52
Subject: Re:Emperor's wargear
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Otiose in a Niche
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IronSnake wrote:Kind of a rant... but I think it's stupid how the Crux Terminatus has a itty bitty sliver of the Emperor's armor from his showdown with Horus. I'm not sure why it bugs me, but it does.
You would think they would have put his armor in a status field or in the palace museum or something. You know... for when he comes back. He'll need it!
Apparently it was pretty burnt and wrecked.
The bit about the Crux is a reference to an old Catholic belief that every church altar has a piece of the true cross.
It's not true, I've had priests tell me it's not true, but everyone still believes it.
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2011/12/09 01:21:42
Subject: Re:Emperor's wargear
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[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
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Tadashi wrote:As far as I know there's no models or rules for the Emperor, so I came up with some.
Anathema
-the Emperor is anathema to the creatures of the warp. Such beings are weakened in proximity to the Emperor.
-as long as the Emperor is on the field, all failed rolls to wound on daemons may be re-rolled
-daemons are required to re-roll all successful saves
Master of Mankind
-the Emperor's mere presence inspires His subjects to acts of heroism.
-as long as the Emperor is on the field, all Imperial units have the Fearless universal rule
Perfect Psyker
-the Emperor's control of the warp surpasses all others.
-the Emperor may use three psychic powers per turn; automatically passes all psychic tests.
My rules for the Emp and Horus are here:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Horus_vs_the_Emperor_Scenario
THE EMPEROR AND HORUS
Notes – GW has long refused to give any stats for the Emperor or the Primachs. No doubt they remember the days when TSR gave stats for Zeus and Thor and the rest so PCs when out and killed them.
Some players have looked at the fluff and said that these legendary characters would need stats of 10 across the board and would automatically kill anything. I disagree. The background for the Primarchs has them being wounded and even killed by ordinary mortal foes. Even the Emperor was once saved by Horus from Orks. And does anyone really think the Emperor could rip apart a Titan or a land raider? That he’d be tougher than a C’tan?
So I used the Space Marine hero profile, added 1 to everything and then added some special rules.
If you think these two are still too weak, then remember neither was at his peak. They were in the middle of a battle for the future of humanity. Their mental and physical powers drained and pushed to their limits. As they fight this physical battle there is also a psychic battle occurring in levels of reality we can only dream of!
Either that or Kyoto nerfed them to make the game playable.
Take your pick.
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HORUS
WS-8 BS-8 S-5 T-5 W-5 I-6 A-5 Ld-10 Sv 2+/4+
Equipment
Talons of Horus – A pair of master-crafted Lightning Claws with built in Storm Bolters (counts as a twin linked Storm Bolter).
Unholy Rod – Before the game starts Horus may exchange one Talon for his Unholy Rod. This gift from the Chaos Gods is a master-crafted power weapon whose unsaved wounds cause instant death. However if Horus rolls a 1 to wound he takes a wound instead (no save). Note however that the Emperor is immune to instant death.
Immortal – Horus is immune to instant death, all attacks (including force weapons and strength ‘D’ weapons) do just one wound.
Wardrugs – At the end of his turn, if Horus was not in assault, he regains a wound (up to a maximum of 5)
Special Rules
Intimidating – All friendly units within 12” become fearless. Horus is also fearless.
I… Live… AGAIN! – If Horus is killed by any means, place him on his side. At the start of the next turn he rises with one wound on a roll of 3+. If he is killed by something that destroys terrain (i.e. orbital decay) he is placed in the nearest safe spot. Victory points for killing Horus should not be awarded until he is finally dead.
Blessings of Chaos – At the start of each of Horus' turns, roll a d6 to see how the whims of chaos reward him.
1 – Cursed: Lose 1 wound, no save
2 – Blessed by Khorne: Gain +1 strength
3 – Blessed by Nurgle: Gain +1 toughness
4 – Blessed by Slannesh: Gain +1 attack
5 – Blessed by Tzeentch: Invulnerable save boosted to 3+
6 – Eye of the Gods: Gain +1 attack, strength and toughness and a 3+ invulnerable save. At the end of the turn lose a wound, no save
Warmaster – Horus must commune with the gods of chaos and coordinate a massive war across all of Holy Terra, Luna, Mars and systems across the galaxy. He may not leave his throne room as long as it is intact. If it is damaged (by orbital decay for example) he may leave.
Notes – In recent art Horus has a mace but he had lightning claws originally so I offered both options. The two claws are better for the Emperor or hoards of 1 wound foes but the mace will let him stomp multi-wound characters with ease. The Blessings of Chaos will wound Horus 1/3 of the time but since he recovers a wound each turn it cannot kill him while he is at full strength, at worst it will leave him at 4 wounds when someone attacks. Against the Emperor, Horus can either have more attacks one more attack (thanks to the pair of claws) but he's a bit slower and his powers are unreliable.
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THE EMPEROR
WS-8 BS-8 S-5 T-5 W-5 I-7 A-5 Ld-10 Sv 2+/4+
Equipment
Eagle’s Blade – Master-crafted power sword
Eagle’s Talon – Master-crafted power fist
Immortal – The Emperor is immune to instant death, all attacks (including force weapons and strength ‘D’ weapons) do just one wound.
Regeneration – At the end of his turn, if the Emperor was is not in assault, he regains a wound (up to a maximum of 5)
Special Rules
Inspiring – All friendly units within 12” become fearless. The Emperor is also fearless.
I Shall Return! – If the Emperor is killed by any means, place him on his side. At the start of the next turn he rises with one wound on a roll of 3+. If he is killed by something that destroys terrain (i.e. orbital decay) he is placed in the nearest safe spot. Victory points for killing the Emperor should not be awarded until he is finally dead.
Master of Mankind – The Emperor has had millennia to develop his psychic powers. He may use one per turn of his choice. The power must be declared at the start of his turn. The Emperor’s powers do not require a psychic check.
Protection: All friendly models (including the Emperor himself) within 6” gain a 5+ invulnerable save (or +1 to an existing invulnerable save). Foresight: The Emperor may reroll one of his own save, hit or wounding rolls this turn. Beacon: One Imperial unit recycling into the game may be placed within 6” of the Emperor. Phoenix: In the shooting phase the Emperor inflicts d6 wounds on a model within 12” with no armor saves allowed (invulnerable saves allowed). The Emperor then takes 1 wound.
Note – The Emperor is faster than Horus (he is daddy after all) but Horus has the edge in attacks and offensive powers. Plus Horus gets to rest all game until the Emperor finally reaches him. But the Emperor has more flexibility with his 2 weapons. As the good guy he has reliable powers that aid him and his allies while Horus’ powers are properly chaotic and only benefit himself.
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2011/12/09 01:36:53
Subject: Emperor's wargear
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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You should add an additional rule for the Emperor;
Ollanius Pius: Should Horus reduce the Emperor to his final wound then the next wound taken is ignored as Ollanius Pius stands in front of the renegade Warlord to give his Emperor the breathing space he needs to counter attack.
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2011/12/09 01:44:17
Subject: Re:Emperor's wargear
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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only if Ollanius Pius is represented as a humble guardsman, not the retconned marine.
Hate it when they tamper with great fluff. 
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2011/12/09 01:51:54
Subject: Re:Emperor's wargear
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Soo'Vah'Cha wrote:only if Ollanius Pius is represented as a humble guardsman, not the retconned marine. Hate it when they tamper with great fluff.
They retconned him as a Marine? Why the feth for?
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2011/12/09 01:58:30
Subject: Re:Emperor's wargear
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I correct myself apparently it was a Custodes not a marine that replaced Ollanius Pius, IIRC it was in some BL book, unfortunatly I found out about this on another site as well, Bolter and chainsword I think.
Likely they did it so it would make more "Sense" from a fluff standpoint, but I still say humbug...give the boy his moment in glory....
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2011/12/09 05:20:40
Subject: Emperor's wargear
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Stealthy Dark Angels Scout with Shotgun
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Besides his other gear, I think the Emperor always carries a vial filled with the tears of children, for medicinal purposes.
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