Small Eldar rumour by ghost21

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**Kroothawk**

Currently we have (almost) only one source, ghost21. He has been spot on (Dreadfleet) and far off (Sororitas Codex in August with new models) before, so decide yourself what you believe of his current flood of rumours. i remain sceptical for the time being.

ghost21 wrote:Plastic vampyre (flyer)
dragon riders,
solitaire
I've heard (heard mind you) exodite character
and 2 additional aspect warrior types

Eldar Storm Guardians come in boxes of 8 with a min of 10...

expect it to change(unit size); 8 to a squad min

Vampyre might be the Vampire bomber, or might be something different (because of different spelling). Still, would be strange to release such a big flyer, esp. as Eldar don't have a fighter yet:

Other sources tell us that Codex Eldar release might be in 1-2 years, with the most daring rumour by
The Man They Call Jayne from Second Shere forum http://secondsphere.org/index.php/topic,129654.0.html :

I have heard a few rumours for the GW high up through a mate. His source is GWs own Phil Kelly, who has just started work on the Tau Codex.
1.) 6th ed boxset is set to be Eldar Vs CSMs, as they will be the among the first 6th ed codexes.
2) Eldar will be first, then Tau or CSMs

Here a rumour by stickmonkey (25th September 2011):

Little spider passed along a few rumors.

Eldar mid to late 2012. Possibly 1st or 2nd official 6 ed codex

Guardians being redone. Will include new weapons platform and storm guardian bits.

Avatar getting new fine cast version with weapon options (spear/sword) not as big as FW model, but larger than current.

Lots of new mech options. Jump pack/jet options for walkers similar to new FW models, but unclear if this is new model or upgrade to current model. Upgrade packs don't seem likely, and current model is decent, so I have my doubts about this rumor completely.

New tank options...built on wave serpent/falcon chassis still. Hydra like flak turret, Bonuses against flyers and skimmers. Dcannon tank. And some pulse cannon monster tank...scorpion?

New jet bikes and vypers.

New warlock sculpts.

New aspect sculpts, aspects still likely fine cast.

Some sort of shimmershield device. Portable cover save for a unit, but static once deployed...model in design for it. Sounds fishy to me? But the de have the portal...who knows, I say unlikely.

From obvious dept comes the nightwing and some form of bomber. Neither look at all like de ships, or existing FW. Definitely eldar.

Drop pod of some sort that can carry 20 troops, 10 wraith guard, or 1 wraith lord. Deploys as firebase that has higher cover rating for guardians. Sounds like a bastion that drops into play with a weapons platform attached. Not sure I buy into this rumor completely, it seems too complex the way it's been described. And I never saw any evidence of this in design before.

Cheers. Still super long off, though. Have your salt handy.

**MasterSlowPoke**

You'd probably have an easier job if you just listed what ghost21 hasn't promised yet.

**MightyGodzilla**

Hmmm....Dragon Riders and Exodites in the codex. Sounds a little wierd and far fetched to me. But who knows with all this new fluff going around where they might take the Eldar. GW could retconn 40K history and have Eldrad kill Sanguinius and coma kick the Emporer in the jimmy before dissolving back to the Ulthwe craftworld.

**Sasori**

I'm not familiar with Dragon Riders, could some fill me in, that's more in tune with the Fluff?

**bhsman**

Reference to Exodite Eldar who ride lizard-like animals as cavalry.

**Sasori**

bhsman wrote:Reference to Exodite Eldar who ride lizard-like animals as cavalry.

That seems rather lame. If I want Cold One cavalry I'll play Dark Elves.

**MasterSlowPoke**

Exodites are the 40k version of Wood Elves mixed with a little bit of Lizardmen. Basically nature loving space elves that tame dragons/dinosaurs. They're mentioned in the fluff a bit (a Necron dream team wipes out some in their new codex) but haven't gotten any model support aside from a model or two in Epic, IIRC.

**Totalwar1402**

Exodites were also mentioned in the Tyranid fluff and I think the Dark Eldar one as well; might be gearing up to introducing them in craftworld dex.

**Harriticus**

Have no problem with FW releasing Exodite models, but GW doing so would be a terrible idea. Doesn't fit the Eldar ascetically at all and riding on Dinosaurs when you have flying tanks is rather strange.

I think the Phoenix attack aircraft would be a better flyer option for the Eldar though, only because Vampire's are massive things on the scale of Thunderhawks.

**bhsman**

It doesn't really matter anyways, considering who is providing the rumor.

**MasterSlowPoke**

Totalwar1402 wrote:Exodites were also mentioned in the Tyranid fluff and I think the Dark Eldar one as well; might be gearing up to introducing them in craftworld dex.

Traitor Guard have been mentioned a whole lot more; don't get your hopes up.

**Harriticus**

Exodites are mentioned fairly frequently, they're the PDF of the Eldar.

Basically someone (Orks/Tyranids/Necrons usually) attack an Exodite world. The Exodites tried to respond but were killed to a man. Craftworlders swoop in and save the day.

**Totalwar1402**

SOB also got a mention few times didn't they? Its probably nothing, but traitor guard were a pretty constant part of the codex and I can't remember 3rd/4th ed codex mentioning exodites before.

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Harriticus wrote:Exodites are mentioned fairly frequently, they're the PDF of the Eldar.

Basically someone (Orks/Tyranids/Necrons usually) attack an Exodite world. The Exodites tried to respond but were killed to a man. Craftworlders swoop in and save the day.

Really? My bad, I didn't realise they had a PDF.

**Sidstyler**

Sasori wrote:That seems rather lame. If I want Cold One cavalry I'll play Dark Elves.

I tend to agree, I don't really want GW porting more WHF crap into 40k (like Necrons and their even more obvious "Tomb Kings in Space" feel, right down to the teal and gold paint job), but honestly as long as the models look good (much like the Necrons) I couldn't care less. Jes is the Eldar guy, so it's likely he might be doing the "dragon riders", and if that's true then they'll probably be every bit as awesome as the Dark Elf cold one knights, and I really can't complain about that.

Personally though it sounds like a strange rumor to me. Exodites don't sound like something you can just throw in the Eldar codex like that as a one or two-off, it sounds like a concept that needs a codex and model line of its own, considering they're supposed to be like these outcasts that don't often (if ever) fight alongside their Craftworld cousins. I don't know gak about Eldar fluff outside of the new Dark Eldar codex though, so maybe someone could enlighten me and anyone else that might be confused by this.

EDIT: Seems I was all wrong then? lol

**Sasori**

bhsman wrote:It doesn't really matter anyways, considering who is providing the rumor.

This is probably the most important thing to keep in mind here. After nothing from his Necron rumors came true, I'm not going to really hold stock in anything else he posts, for now.

**Harriticus**

Well I was being sarcastic. They're not literally PDF's. They fulfill the role in the story that Imperial PDF's do. The Exodites are local overmatched forces that get owned by the baddies so the main army (Craftworlders for the Eldar, Space Marines/Guard for Imperium) can save the day.

**gorgon**

Given the amount of retro stuff appearing in 40k codicies lately, I wouldn't rule out Exodites. I mean, I woulda put the odds of Jokaero returning at somewhere below that of Space Slann returning. I dunno if I trust ghost's rumors either, but at least it's some conversation fodder.

**Eumerin**

Exodites have appeared before in official GW releases as units attached to a Craftworld army. The Eldar Knights, which were basically small one-man titans, were a creation of the Exodites and piloted by them. Unfortunately, as cool as it would be to have a centauroid Eldar walker about twice the height of a wraithlord, GW appears to have completely forgotten about the Eldar Knights.

So basically, it would not be out of place to see an Exodite contingent in a Craftworld army anymoreso than it is out of place to see a Harlequin contingent in a Craftworld army. The Exodites are another faction of Eldar, but they maintain close ties with the Craftworlds.

**wuestenfux**

Well, if you say Harlies you have to say Solitaire, too. This guy/girl had about 12 attacks on the charge in the old 'dex from Gav Thorpe.

**Just Dave**

I think there's also the problem of Shining Spears being partly 'inspired' by the Dragon Riders, and that the Shining Spears already exist in the Codex.

**wuestenfux**

Well, primitive exodite planets are part of the Eldar world in 40k. A faction of exodites in the new Eldar codex would eventually provide a new way of playing an army. It could be an alternative to the Kroot army, which is hardly playable.

**Gavin Thorne**

My eldar army is an exodite force backed by a craftworld contingent. I'm using them to count as jetbikes for the most part, although I have long standing plans to use stegadons and other dinosaur models for grav tanks. I'v eloved their fluff from day one.

My concern, were this true, would be the invalidation of my models and/or playstyle with a codex release. Thanks for the early glimmers Kroot. I'll keep an eye open.

**Just Dave**

Nice models Gavin!

**The Decapitator**

Exodites alongside Craftworld Eldar also appear as the main antagonists in Promethean Sun which is one of the most recent appearances in books/fluff.

**Do_I_Not_Like_That**

I've said it before - there's been to many false dawns with GW. We're just as likely to see a Gretchin codex than an Eldar/CSM
Look how erratic they have been with releases in 2011.

Bring back Steve Jackson and Ian Livingstone.

**Totalwar1402**

Eumerin wrote:Exodites have appeared before in official GW releases as units attached to a Craftworld army. The Eldar Knights, which were basically small one-man titans, were a creation of the Exodites and piloted by them. Unfortunately, as cool as it would be to have a centauroid Eldar walker about twice the height of a wraithlord, GW appears to have completely forgotten about the Eldar Knights.

So basically, it would not be out of place to see an Exodite contingent in a Craftworld army anymoreso than it is out of place to see a Harlequin contingent in a Craftworld army. The Exodites are another faction of Eldar, but they maintain close ties with the Craftworlds.

They have had an awefully filthy habit of adding large plastic kits to their armies of late...

**timetowaste85**

Awesome models Gavin, very impressive. I actually hope this exodite thing comes true in positive ways to enhance your army-God forbid an update invalidates it: t'would be a shame. I'd love to see that thing across the table from me. Thumbs up, dude, and exalted for your pics.

**templarsandorks?**

Interessant
Das Vampyre ist sehr gross
(intresting that vampyre is very big)
its speak german day on my planet on the other side of the galaxy

**Totalwar1402**

The Vampyre is probably a more petite version of the vampire bomber.

**Absolutionis**

I really hope they don't botch the miniVampyre like they did the Chibihawk. I have faith in you Jes.

I'm also really hoping the "dragon riders" mean Fire Dragons riding jetbikes (or guardians riding fire dragons, heh). Putting exodites in here seems too much like wishlisting.

bhsman wrote:It doesn't really matter anyways, considering who is providing the rumor.

You do realize that the post you're pointing to actually is a repost from Blood of Kittens, right? Ghost21 is just relaying information. The only discredit to Ghost21 here is that he momentarily believed the monkeys with typewriters over at Blood of Kittens.