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First off, I've never used a drop pod and have never cheated. Glad that's sorted.

Ok, when a drop pod's deep striking, could you put the flaps down and know they're, say, 6" or whatever they happen to be, perhaps have little marks of paint for where each inch is, so that you can work out where it's likely to scatter?

Not much, but could it work?

If i understand what your saying, you want to mark inches on the drop pod doors, say with caution stripes.
Honestly i doubt, anyone would notice or that it would even be that big of an advantage; 6 inches is pretty easy to eyeball.
That being said, i've never seen anyone actually lower the doors as they tend to just get in the way. I usually see doorless drop pods or closed pods (or cup pods but i digress)...

p_gray99 wrote:First off, I've never used a drop pod and have never cheated. Glad that's sorted.

Ok, when a drop pod's deep striking, could you put the flaps down and know they're, say, 6" or whatever they happen to be, perhaps have little marks of paint for where each inch is, so that you can work out where it's likely to scatter?

Not much, but could it work?

If you want to see where you might go, it won't work. I would have a problem as this could be seen as pre-measuring in my eyes.

Yes it's premesuring. But it's nearly undetectable and compleatly uninforceable. But, as pods can't mishap and leave a large area to unload from, it seems to me that it's just not needed

p_gray99 wrote:First off, I've never used a drop pod and have never cheated. Glad that's sorted.

Ok, when a drop pod's deep striking, could you put the flaps down and know they're, say, 6" or whatever they happen to be, perhaps have little marks of paint for where each inch is, so that you can work out where it's likely to scatter?

Not much, but could it work?

a) it's pre-measuring, so it's a nono.

b) Why? What could you possibly gain from this?

if you have drop pod coming down, do you disembark from the edge of the pod or disembark from the edge of the flaps?

Dazuni wrote:if you have drop pod coming down, do you disembark from the edge of the pod or disembark from the edge of the flaps?

The pod, not the doors.
Thus, dropping doors down won't increase the range of deployment.

As has been mentioned scatter isn't important to a drop pod.

On a related point you should know the measurements of all your tanks and even turrets. I guess IG commanders all know the distance between the front and the back doors of a chimera

MFletch wrote:

On a related point you should know the measurements of all your tanks and even turrets. I guess IG commanders all know the distance between the front and the back doors of a chimera

So true, and learn the dimensions of every vehicular aspect of the game. That knowledge is priceless in today's meta

This is the second time i have seen you posting something like this. First you made a stats spread sheet so you can calculate odds midgame with a smartphone, and now your thinkin of ways to pre measure. Are you missing something. Its a game. This is not being a good sportsman. its gamesmanship which involves manipulating factors outside of the game to try to get an edge over your opponent. It should not be that important to win. Similar tactics include...
1. conversions that make it harder to see models like shortening trygons or widening battle wagons to hide your army behind.
2. premeasuring anything like your hand, your models etc. so that later you can use the afformentioned object to better gauge distance in game.
3. etc. etc.
look. there are dozens of ways to manipulate the game. after all i saw someone in a similar thread point out that it says no where in the rules that you cant use loaded dice. The spirit of the game is to play a GAME and have fun. you shouldnt be so fired up about winning that taking advantage of stuff that amounts to pre measuring ever crosses your mind.

Alright, lets get this out of the way quickly:

Ok, when a drop pod's deep striking, could you put the flaps down and know they're, say, 6" or whatever they happen to be, perhaps have little marks of paint for where each inch is, so that you can work out where it's likely to scatter?

You -could-. Nothing stopping you from doing so. Nothing to stop me from saying "Whoa there buddy. Fold up them doors/replace that model." either. I am very much within my rights to do so if I have an inkling that this is going on, in the same way that if someone shows up with a very..."long" scratch built battlewagon, deploys it sideways on the edge of deployment, and turns it 90 to get extra movement turn one. Someone wanting to do this with a 100% out of the box hull for example is annoying but fine, modelling for advantage gets eyebrows raised in proportion to blatancy of the MFA.

Similarly, if you want to range things based on things on the table, ex: My land raider is X inches long. It appears that I could fit three land raiders between me and the target, thus he is in range of my guns that are >3X". I am fine with this, it's all in your head, and it's no different than me looking down my rifle sights at a target and figuring a rough estimate on range (Ok, the front sight`s width covers about X inches at 100 yards, and I know that target is about X diameter, and the sight covers twice that much, thus the target must be at 200 yards.) ....again, I am fine with this. You play enough, you are going to start figuring this out without ever touching ruler to the side of a vehicle anyway.

....But you start painting ruler ticks (And no, I am neither blind nor stupid. If I see eyeballs ticking off those big old X-of-an-inch wide/interspersed at set distance black/yellow/black/yellow/whatever color caution marker ticks any time a range call is being made, I am going to know what's up.) on vehicle hulls you better have one really awesome Teachers-Desk themed army to show me, and I do hope we are playing a real friendly game.

You would be better off taking the time and effort to try and make things like this fly and then putting it towards thinking up a TAC list and how you would use it in a variety of situations.

sennacherib wrote:This is the second time i have seen you posting something like this. First you made a stats spread sheet so you can calculate odds midgame with a smartphone, and now your thinkin of ways to pre measure. Are you missing something. Its a game. This is not being a good sportsman. its gamesmanship which involves manipulating factors outside of the game to try to get an edge over your opponent. It should not be that important to win. Similar tactics include...
1. conversions that make it harder to see models like shortening trygons or widening battle wagons to hide your army behind.
2. premeasuring anything like your hand, your models etc. so that later you can use the afformentioned object to better gauge distance in game.
3. etc. etc.
look. there are dozens of ways to manipulate the game. after all i saw someone in a similar thread point out that it says no where in the rules that you cant use loaded dice. The spirit of the game is to play a GAME and have fun. you shouldnt be so fired up about winning that taking advantage of stuff that amounts to pre measuring ever crosses your mind.

True. Perhaps this is a bit of a stupid thread. I still think that the new mathhammer is perfectly within the spirit of a competitive game though, it simply helps to work out the odds so that you can make the best decision rather than doing a lot of hard work in your head.
It's nice to know it could work, though. Perhaps if your opponent's being utterly competitive and annoying, they should have this used to stop them taking the game too seriously. Other than that, I'm not suggesting using it.

Mate if you can't predetermine 6" by eye shot, then you are already in a losing position in 40k.

komosunder wrote:Yes it's premesuring. But it's nearly undetectable and compleatly uninforceable. But, as pods can't mishap and leave a large area to unload from, it seems to me that it's just not needed

Pods can mishap if they come off the table.

Godless-Mimicry wrote:Mate if you can't predetermine 6" by eye shot, then you are already in a losing position in 40k.

Yeah, but this would help guess the further distances as well. The same again is 12". Can you work out 12" perfectly by sight?

p_gray99 wrote:

Godless-Mimicry wrote:Mate if you can't predetermine 6" by eye shot, then you are already in a losing position in 40k.

Yeah, but this would help guess the further distances as well. The same again is 12". Can you work out 12" perfectly by sight?

Perfectly no, but pretty close. After measuring multiple bolt pistol shots and judging by looking at the table. Remember the table is 48" x 72" I find that easy to divide up into 12" chunks.

p_gray99 wrote:

Godless-Mimicry wrote:Mate if you can't predetermine 6" by eye shot, then you are already in a losing position in 40k.

Yeah, but this would help guess the further distances as well. The same again is 12". Can you work out 12" perfectly by sight?

Within about a quarter of an inch isn't too hard, which is good enough for me. It's much easier when there is nothing between your 12" mark and the unit you're eyeballing. Harder to guess when there's terrain or another model there.

Why not just get dots penned on your finer at each inch mark and take quick premeasure each time you put a miniature on the table?

Because it’s drastic and uncalled for! I'll give you props for a sneaky idea though lol. As other people have said if you need help with premeasuring a 6" radius then I doubt your playing competitively enough to need that sort of precision anyway.

Why would the men open the doors before landing??