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Someone mentioned in another thread and I checked and the rules agree that it would be legal to have 11 dreadnaughts in one army though you'd have zero scoring units.

But think about it a sec! 3 furioso dreads, 3 normal dreads ( I guess you can make them the ranged support guys), 5 Death Company dreads and 1 super squad of crazy death company x30 men possibly with a land raider!

It'd be super melee fun! Blendernaughts everywhere. There's no safe place to hide when there's 11 of them comming your way.

I'd imagine while it may not be able to cap objectives ever, it can just fight everyone else off their objectives for draws and hope for a table. Still has a chance at kill point missions I suppose. Anyone ever try this before?

With AV13 and all, it should work. Say goodbye to objective games tho, because dreadnoughts are too slow to contest objectives.

Comes in at minium of 2015 points for barebones dreads and deathcompany and barbones libby/captain as the HQ.

I think you might be alright in an objectives game, most of the dreads will be be running, and will be giving each other cover (and you can use smoke and still run) so they should make it to some objectives.

Also they all have the option for droppods. - 11 podding dreadnoughts - minimum cost 2300 - that would be very cool to play!

If you want to kit the dreads out, it would be well over 2500 points, almost apoc, and at that points value imagine how many broadsides I could field. Just saying.

You would have to field two squads of Death company (i guess you don't have to but two squads with JPs, thunder hammers, Pw, infernus pistols lol = epic headache to most lol) the HQ would have to include Astroth so you lose the 0-1 hindering and you still can have your force org but yes it can be done i field six in every game. libbi, furiouso, two heavy, two DC and i put three
in drop pods lol and if someone was to field that they don't need to hold objectives just kill everything on the board and you will win by default lol

Why in the world would you ever want to run 11 dreads in a normal game? That is just super-silly.

Swap out 1 dread for camo cloak sniper scouts on your objective and you're good.

BTW, a draigowing army with a Might of Titan librarian will just go through this army like swiss cheese.

jy2 wrote:

BTW, a draigowing army with a Might of Titan librarian will just go through this army like swiss cheese.

That is a game I'd love to see. - So the paladins/terminators would be striking at I6 (halberds) and strength ? 6? 7? I wouldn't count on using daemonhammers cos with 5blood talon attcks at I5 (if they get the charge) the DC dreads would carve up a squad of termis a turn, and you wouldn't be able to strikeback.

lol i've played against a Draigowing with my list it was quite entertaining to see the look my friends face when i killed 2 pally squads with my DC dreads put a smile on my face

jy2 wrote:Why in the world would you ever want to run 11 dreads in a normal game? That is just super-silly.

Swap out 1 dread for camo cloak sniper scouts on your objective and you're good.

BTW, a draigowing army with a Might of Titan librarian will just go through this army like swiss cheese.

oh absolutely crazy sillyness!

I'm just thinking of the crazy havoc that 11 dreads either raining or running into any army may cause. It'd have to be for fun I'd have to imagine but what fun it'd be! But you are correct, I will have to compensate and throw in some extra psy hoods all around.

Are you able to have more than one hood try to block an ability? I've never actually had an army with more than 1 librarian so I have no clue how this would work.

If you want to kit the dreads out, it would be well over 2500 points, almost apoc, and at that points value imagine how many broadsides I could field. Just saying.

Indeed, this would have to be something played at like hardboyz point levels. I'm not familar with Tau's FOC, how many are you allowed to take?

I'd just like to point out that I can field 42 XV suits in a legal list...or 47 in a very, very slightly illegal one.

That's 88 wounds to kill all my suits.

I've wanted to do this since the BA codex came out! Take a reclusiarch chaplin for hq, put him with 25 man DC squad with bolters and 2 power fists. Relentless means 25 shots at 24" range as they come at you. 5 DC dreads with blood talons. 3 heavy support rifleman dreads. Then 3 furiosoes, maybe librarians shield to cover the rest as they advance. I made this list on army builder before and got right at 2k points. Don't remember if there was points to make the furiosoes into librarians or not. Anyway, it wouldn't have any scoring units, but it would murder hordes. Most of the dreads have meltas, too. I just think it would be crazy fun!

I think I have found the only legal loadout in the game that could kill 11 dreads:

Shas'O R'alai with 3x Fusion Cascades XV9s with TAs, Shield Generators

3x Fusion Cascades XV9s with TAs, Shield Generators
3x Fusion Cascades XV9s with TAs, Shield Generators

3x Broadsides with shield generators,

3x Broadsides with shield generators,

3x Broadsides with shield generators,

im2randomghgh wrote:I think I have found the only legal loadout in the game that could kill 11 dreads:

Shas'O R'alai with 3x Fusion Cascades XV9s with TAs, Shield Generators

3x Fusion Cascades XV9s with TAs, Shield Generators
3x Fusion Cascades XV9s with TAs, Shield Generators

3x Broadsides with shield generators,

3x Broadsides with shield generators,

3x Broadsides with shield generators,

What? There are DOZENS of lists which could quite easily knock out 11 dreadnoughts. Hell DE would run rings around this list lancing everything in sight!

And if a good IG gun line got a round off , most would be wrecked/stunned/immobilised or have all their weapons missing.

Plus Nidzilla would be pretty fun to see against this. Pretty one sided in the fights, but fun.

Chaos Lord Gir wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:I think I have found the only legal loadout in the game that could kill 11 dreads:

Shas'O R'alai with 3x Fusion Cascades XV9s with TAs, Shield Generators

3x Fusion Cascades XV9s with TAs, Shield Generators
3x Fusion Cascades XV9s with TAs, Shield Generators

3x Broadsides with shield generators,

3x Broadsides with shield generators,

3x Broadsides with shield generators,

What? There are DOZENS of lists which could quite easily knock out 11 dreadnoughts. Hell DE would run rings around this list lancing everything in sight!

And if a good IG gun line got a round off , most would be wrecked/stunned/immobilised or have all their weapons missing.

Plus Nidzilla would be pretty fun to see against this. Pretty one sided in the fights, but fun.

Only TAU list.

Fixed.

And I'm not sure that the DE list would win; this many dreadnought weapons should be able to handle them.

And if they were drop podding, they could disrupt the gunline and then have the rest come in from reserve and use their blood talons/heavy dread weaps on them.

im2randomghgh wrote:I think I have found the only legal loadout in the game that could kill 11 dreads:

Shas'O R'alai with 3x Fusion Cascades XV9s with TAs, Shield Generators

3x Fusion Cascades XV9s with TAs, Shield Generators
3x Fusion Cascades XV9s with TAs, Shield Generators

3x Broadsides with shield generators,

3x Broadsides with shield generators,

3x Broadsides with shield generators,

CCSw/melta-90
Meltavets-100
Meltavets-100
Meltavets-100
Meltavets-100
Meltavets-100
Vanquisher-155
Vanquisher-155
Vanquisher-155
1155.

im2randomghgh wrote:I think I have found the only legal loadout in the game that could kill 11 dreads:

Shas'O R'alai with 3x Fusion Cascades XV9s with TAs, Shield Generators

3x Fusion Cascades XV9s with TAs, Shield Generators
3x Fusion Cascades XV9s with TAs, Shield Generators

3x Broadsides with shield generators,

3x Broadsides with shield generators,

3x Broadsides with shield generators,

Forgeworld shouldn't count. And with their current codex, Tau really suck.

^+1 to the Guard list. A good Guard list could give this silly one a good stomping. But the prospect of 11 Dreads still sounds fun for Apoc!

Joey wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:I think I have found the only legal loadout in the game that could kill 11 dreads:

Shas'O R'alai with 3x Fusion Cascades XV9s with TAs, Shield Generators

3x Fusion Cascades XV9s with TAs, Shield Generators
3x Fusion Cascades XV9s with TAs, Shield Generators

3x Broadsides with shield generators,

3x Broadsides with shield generators,

3x Broadsides with shield generators,

CCSw/melta-90
Meltavets-100
Meltavets-100
Meltavets-100
Meltavets-100
Meltavets-100
Vanquisher-155
Vanquisher-155
Vanquisher-155
1155.

I have 54 melta shots a turn, an assault 2 lascannon, 2 marker drones, 9 TL railgun shots and 4++ or 3++ saves on everything.


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thechosen1 wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:I think I have found the only legal loadout in the game that could kill 11 dreads:

Shas'O R'alai with 3x Fusion Cascades XV9s with TAs, Shield Generators

3x Fusion Cascades XV9s with TAs, Shield Generators
3x Fusion Cascades XV9s with TAs, Shield Generators

3x Broadsides with shield generators,

3x Broadsides with shield generators,

3x Broadsides with shield generators,

Forgeworld shouldn't count. And with their current codex, Tau really suck.

^+1 to the Guard list. A good Guard list could give this silly one a good stomping. But the prospect of 11 Dreads still sounds fun for Apoc!

ofc forgeworld counts, there's no reason for it not to, unless you are one of those massive dicks who refuses to play against it, even though it is more balanced than most codex stuff.

And also, the tau aren't bad right now, they are just not OP enough to take on OP armies. The only people in the game who can outshoot them are IG.

Chaos Lord Gir wrote:Plus Nidzilla would be pretty fun to see against this. Pretty one sided in the fights, but fun.

I think the dreads would take nidzilla. Trygons are I4 and carnifexes are I2. If the dc dreads get the charge they'll be I5 and S7, so hitting on 3s and wounding on 3s. They also get extra attacks for each wound they cause, so the big bug will be dead before it gets a chance to swing. Of course, tyrants will tear the dreads a new one.

If FW counts, then the Dread player could take Dreadpods; Drop Pods that allow Dreadnoughts to assault out of them. Goodbye targets...

This list + Dreadpods would be disgusting.

thechosen1 wrote:If FW counts, then the Dread player could take Dreadpods; Drop Pods that allow Dreadnoughts to assault out of them. Goodbye targets...

This list + Dreadpods would be disgusting.

If we're taking FW, then we could get BA contemptors with Blood talons.

While its a very lean list at 2000 points, 11 dreads with 25 foot DC is do-able! That is pretty interesting, and should be a blast to play with I would think.

I'd love to see an army with 11 Dreads, just like I'd love to see an army with 30 DC fully kitted out. I'd love to see a GK army with 6 squads of 12 Jokaero, too. Anything like this just sounds so awesome and it's so unique that it could have a chance purely because it would be completely unexpected.

I was at a tournament this fall where a guy ran 9 dreads in an 1850 list. I don't know where he finished but he wasn't at the top tables. I don't think he cared since he was running a fun list. You can see a picture of his army at www.brawlinthefall.com

jy2 wrote:

BTW, a draigowing army with a Might of Titan librarian will just go through this army like swiss cheese.

That's why he'd need to take a couple Libby dreads, for Hoods.

Kapitan Montag wrote:

jy2 wrote:

BTW, a draigowing army with a Might of Titan librarian will just go through this army like swiss cheese.

That is a game I'd love to see. - So the paladins/terminators would be striking at I6 (halberds) and strength ? 6? 7? I wouldn't count on using daemonhammers cos with 5blood talon attcks at I5 (if they get the charge) the DC dreads would carve up a squad of termis a turn, and you wouldn't be able to strikeback.

whrextheimpaler wrote:lol i've played against a Draigowing with my list it was quite entertaining to see the look my friends face when i killed 2 pally squads with my DC dreads put a smile on my face

Doesn't seem as if you really played a true draigowing list.

Take for instance, this typical Draigowing deathstar (which is quite a common build in Draigowing armies) - 10 paladins (tricked out with banner, stave, hammer, swords and halberds) with Draigo and Librarian (w/stave).

After 3 Hammerhands and Might of Titans, each of those I6 halberds (actually, all attacks) are hitting at S8 with 2D6 armour penetration.

Then they will allocate the bloodclaw wounds on 2++ staves and 4++ invuln's, assuming the dreads survive all those monstrous creature attacks.

BTW, just the pallies alone (not including librarian or Draigo and not counting charging or counter-attack bonuses) have 29 S8/10+2D6 attacks, of which probably 12 are I6 halberds.

And that's not counting the S8 psyfleman dreads laying down support fire.

Still think the dreads will survive?

sudojoe wrote:
Are you able to have more than one hood try to block an ability? I've never actually had an army with more than 1 librarian so I have no clue how this would work.

No. Only 1 hood attempt per marine codex.

puma713 wrote:

jy2 wrote:

BTW, a draigowing army with a Might of Titan librarian will just go through this army like swiss cheese.

That's why he'd need to take a couple Libby dreads, for Hoods.

Very few points left after 11 dreads, 25 death company and an HQ to still take libby dreads, though I suppose a librarian HQ is possible.

jy2 wrote:

puma713 wrote:

jy2 wrote:

BTW, a draigowing army with a Might of Titan librarian will just go through this army like swiss cheese.

That's why he'd need to take a couple Libby dreads, for Hoods.

Very few points left after 11 dreads, 25 death company and an HQ to still take libby dreads, though I suppose a librarian HQ is possible.

Course not. I meant replace one of the 11 dreads with a libby dread. Libby dreads are elites anyway, so he'd have to remove some of the elite dreads for them. Also, if he were to take Libby Dreads with Wings of Sanguinus, it would give him a fast-moving objective negator.

Unfortunately, half this army has Rage, so if he faced any competent player with fast-moving armies like Eldar, Dark Eldar, other BA or, in some cases, Tau, he'd be done for. All they'd have to do is kite him all over the board.

I played against a dread list like this on vassal a while back. I had the perfect list to kill him but played like a newb and somehow lost.

It is fun but ultra not competitive.

this sounds like my idea of a fun list. I absolutely love dreads and the only thing that has kept me from making an all dread list is fear but now i'm gonna do it.

won't ever be competitive as any shooty list can rock it but still fun

Don't forget the Kan Wall the Orks Run. It is essentially an all Dread list.