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OCC: Don't forget Drky is in Australia so it will be around 14-15 hours ahead of American time. Hopefully he'll finish this on the 27th over here that way over there you get the full 26th.


Also I didn't know that Ultrafool and Mekboy have spotty posting habits in these types of games, but it still looks suspicious to me. Ghosty and the others that have been unable to post have at least given a reason for it. If Ultrafool had left a reason for his absense in this thread then it wouldn't have seemed as suspicious when he vanished. Drky said that he will prod every three days with a weekend counting as one day so he has at least been prodded twice already. On second thoughts he might just be gone for a good reason, I checked his posts and the one he made last here turns out to have been the most recent post that he has made on Dakka. It doesn't seem like he is avoiding any attention. It looks more like something important has come up and kept him away from Dakka instead. Thus, Mekboy's lack of voting seems more suspicious now, but he could also just be waiting for a last minute vote. At least Ultrafool seems to have an excuse though. I actually thought I had found one of the traitors as well

UNVOTE: Ultrafool

So Mekboy any reason why you haven't voted yet? Indecisiveness aside there should at least be a few people you might want to vote for. We shouldn't lynch LoG yet until we are certain or run out of time.

((OOC - we do get the full 26th, but since it's Thanksgiving don't expect me to post or if I do post to be fully functional considering the amount of turducken I will have eaten))

Vote lord of the ghosts

That puts him back at L-1 which will enable us to vote for his lynch when we need to. I don't forsee us managing to lynch anyone else today.

Are you accepting my deal or just making sure we have an option?

I reckon Thor's doing a bit of both, we now have the option to lynch someone, but he has somehow gained your trust.

Not trust. He has accused me of basically stalling the lynch and so I offered to switch my vote to LotG if he did because it had seemed to me that he was formerly protecting LotG. Now he has switched so I want confirmation that I should cast the lynching vote from him now so he cannot shift his accusations again, this time to me bandwagonning LotG or otherwise criticize me for casting the last vote.

((OOC - page 12, My 6th post (right after Arctik and I use a laughing emoticon) I outlined how I would do exactly what I am doing *long before* you ever made any offers of a deal with me. I am acting this way for reasons I stated in that post))

::Spits towards the Sister:: I am making no deal with you. I do think you're stalling and I do think your offer is more scummy seeming then a pit full o' plague zombies.

Make whatever vote you wish and justify it however you wish - but don't claim it's because we came to an understanding. I still think you're the most scummy person here.

It seems to me that you've just exposed yourself for the scum you are--and according to your own logic, no less. You've criticized everyone--me most recently--for voting a second-choice lynch and now here you are doing it. Not only are you doing something that you yourself have said is scummy in others, you're doing it for the same reasons that underpin my offer--which you just called "more scummy seeming then a pit full o' plague zombies"! The fact that you had it planned from pages ago doesn't make it any better. Of course you had a plan all along, as I've been saying all along.

This move against LotG when you formerly protected him and overlooked in him what you severely criticized in others is, to use your own words, the scummiest action yet. By convincing everyone to use LotG as traitor-bait, you hope to pin the blame on whoever fulfills your plan by finally doing him in.

I'm now convinced LotG is innocent by virtue of Thor's tossing him under the skimmer. I'll take it all back if the group kills LotG and he turns out to be a heretic. But, religious vows aside, I'd bet a fistful of creds that LotG turns out innocent and we'll have an indictment written in his blood against Thor once and for all.

I urge everyone to consider Thor's actions in this light. Vote for him now or let an innocent die to prove that you should vote for him tomorrow.

That makes no sense whatsoever.

I have explained why I believe lynching someone is preferable to no one. Other people (yourself included) have agreed with this logic that a lynch is better then no lynch. I have also worked very hard to try to lynch anyone but lotg.

OOC: sorry for lack of posting, but its a bit difficult to stay in my house at the moment. stuffs getting steadily worse :( really sorry.

Hmmm what if knowone was lynched? surely in the mornig their would be a body count? risky, but we would be able to determine whom it was

How would you determine who had killed the dead person? There's no real way to do so - therefore it behooves us to try and lynch them which at least gives us random odds of catching them or slightly better then random odds if we can spot suspicious behavior.

Thor665 wrote:
Requesting prod on Ultrafool
Requesting prod on Mekboy

I prodded Ultrafool 4 days ago to which I have had no reply. I'll send a PM to the player I was going to introduce at the beginning of Day Phase 2 to replace him momentarily

(OOC: Also I'd like to apologise to those who I have prodded so far, as I have made a mistake with the PMs where I have said

Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:It has been brought it to my attention that you haven't posted since November 8th.

This is incorrect due to some of you posting after November 8th. I got lazy and copy-pasted the first prod I sent out. However, this shouldn't happen again)

pg#15=+=Voting Count

1-Ultrafool (lord of the ghosts,)
-Orkeosaurus (-)
1-Thor665 ( Manchu)
-Arctik_Firangi (-)
-Manchu (-)
-Lord-Loss (-)
-n0t_u (-)
1-Ghosty (lord of the ghosts)
-Mekboy (-)
6-Lord of Ghosts- (ghosty, Owain, Orkeosaurus, Lord-Loss, , Arctik Firangi, Thor665)
-Owain (-)

No Lynch-
Not Voting- Ultrafool, Mekkboy

6 to lynch

With Thor665's vote it's been decided, I'll put the story post up in a moment.

ghosty, Owain, Orkeosaurus, Lord-Loss, Arctik Firangi and Thor665 all slowly approched the traitor.

Metal Pipes in hand, head throbbing from the techno.

The light flickers. The Eldar smirks.

In a moment, it was over, and lord of the ghosts fell to the ground.

On his body you find the broken remains of his techno, upon closer inspection it was playing a song entitled "Techno for the Emperor (BURNTHEHERETIC remix by CREEEEEEEEEED)"

lord of the ghosts was an imperial citizen

Night Phase 1 starts now, and due to the holiday, It'll finish on the 30th or after all Night Activites are finished.

Also, during the night phase, you can offer to make deals with the Eldar by PMing me. I won't PM you back whether I accept or not, and it shall be known at the start of Day Phase 2. These PM's don't count as Night Activites, so if you don't send me them in time then they won't happen. Also, you can still PM me if you still want the bolt pistol.

A nightmare haunts those who killed lotg.
As I said, I had psker powers to an limit,
I have learned the warp scream, and have converted it into techno. Enjoy.
You have been forever cursed with techno, heretics.
HAHAHAHAHAA

We'll get them next time.

Also LoG when you said you had psyker powers, did that mean that you were the loyalist special character that's able to figure if someone is a traitor? If you are this is a pretty big loss for the loyalists.

EDIT: Don't worry I just had a stupid moment
Drky already said that he was a citizen

Sorry I haven't been posting. I've had several exams. The reason I didn't vote was because:
A. I wasn't here.
and
B. I wanted to be sure, andso was going to wait till the end of today.

EDIT: Oops, night.

=======End Of Night One=======

You all wake up, suprisingly at the same time. Even more of a surprise, the Eldar is laughing, and laughing and laughing.

"Wow, looks like things are going alot faster than I thought" laughed the Eldar

You look around, everyone seems to be there (including lord of the ghosts, who is still dead, but no one has bothered to move him yet) except for two people. Orkeosaurus and Thor665 are missing. After a small search, you find them both in the same place. Thor665 had been torn into shreds in what could politely be called as a big mess. Orkeo was next to Thor, claws extended from his big Orgyn hands. He has a nice, clean, almost surgical cut along his neck.

Thor665 was an Imperium Sanctioned Psyker
Orkeosaurus was a Genestealer

The Eldar is still laughing, almost hysterically, when you come back.



======Dawn of Day Phase 2=======
---504 hours remain---


Aliving
1. typhus
2. Arctik_Firangi
3. Manchu
4. Lord-Loss
5. n0t_u
6. Ghosty
7. Mekboy
8. Owain

With 8 alive it requires 5 to lynch.

How do we know Orkeo a genestealer?

Is that what a pysker does?

When someone dies you automatically find out what they were.

EDIT: At least, I think so.

WTF?? Rules clarification is pretty necessary at this point.

Oh, we must have a serial killer onboard.

::Looks around suspicously::

[Edit]

((OOC - I shall now take my obligatory bah post.

Bah!

Good luck to all sides involved, I hope you can achieve your wins!))

Preliminary warning post:

Textwall to follow.

:: Firangi opens his tome and solemnly begins to enscribe the notable things that the fallen Lord of the Ghosts achieved in life... two seconds later he concludes with 'died'. Striding over to Thor and Orkeo, he closes open eyelids and takes down identification numbers. After a minute he stands, a dour expression upon his face::

"That was unfortunate, but likewise, his distraction was as I stated - unbearable. I'm sure that those who would betray us were glad to have him diverting our attention. The loss of the Psyker was a blow as well... who can say to what degree he could have aided us? I am surprised that my first guess at a potential traitor - the ogryn - indeed turned out to be one. I am quite confident now. My companions, if we can return focused to the matter at hand, I have been compiling the voice logs I collected yesterday. "

Manchu wrote:L-L, I find that proposal utterly repugnant. I have hypothesized since we found Smash dead that any traitors among us would work with the xenos. The correlating hypothesis is that the xenos would work with the traitors. Only in a traitor will the alien find an ally among Emperor-fearing citizens. Every loyal and faithful human, conversely, fights nausea just to gaze upon these creatures. We certainly know that it is total folly to heed the lies of an alien. This thing, may it yet be smote upon Holy Terra, knows it's only chance to survive is to cooperate in the murder of its loyal, human captors. The best strategy for it is to ally at least temporarily with any treacherous elements among us.

"Here we see one of many examples of our Sister Joan commenting on the xenos witch. I understand that one of her background would be incapable of recognising nobility in an alien, but truly we have no actual reason to distrust it. If there is an influence it has brought upon us thus far, it has been entropy, but only insofar as it has not been forthcoming with helpful information. It did, however, mention a weapon in our midst..."

Lord-Loss wrote:Well If you let me have it, then we will kill a traitor.

You will be amused and not bored by our endless squabbaling.

Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:"But how do you know the person you'd kill be a traitor?" said the Eldar, rasining an eyebrow

Lord-Loss wrote:When you vote for someone you believe there a traitor. So I believe Thor to be a traitor.

"...which our companion Lord-Loss was immediately eager to set his hands upon. Now I understand the fear that is rightly lurking in our hearts... for on this vessel, on our mission, this Good work in the name of humanity, we are beset by treacherous foes. What better than a gun by which to defend thyself? Who would be seen as unreasonable to wish to take it up? Perhaps none... but Lord-Loss also claimed that he would kill a traitor, and I must wonder from whence he gathers such assurance..."

Lord-Loss wrote:Thus I believe that the Bolt Pistol should come into the possession of a more sensible fellow.

Thor is too hot headed, LoG is too unpredicatable, Orkeo is too......special and Owain is not involved enough in the investigation.

So that leaves, me, Joan ((Manchu)) and Arctik_Firangi.

"This little circle strikes me as odd... partially because I am in it. I find the accusation that Thor has been hot-headed very strange, considering the pistol-related comments that immediately preceeded it. Thor is fallen - his manner was crude but his tactics are infallible... he had been actively opposed to Joan, however. I am interested to see that neither our good sister, nor Lord-Loss have seen fault in each other thus far, and it is for these initial reasons that I do not trust either of them."

Manchu wrote:@Thor
"Your hastiness is rather damning," Joan replies without anger, "especially considering that I did explain my 'methods' . . . by which I suppose you mean my formal training in the subtleties of diplomacy and intrigue as a sister of Order Famulous."

She sighs.

"As much as I would like to believe that you are merely a simple-minded layman ham-handedly playing at being an Inquisitor, your desperately attempts to throw suspicion on anyone and everyone else is the most suspicious thing I have witnessed so far. I suppose we will see."

"It is true that our Sister has composed herself well - she did not even see fit to vote constructively yesterday... but less can be said of Lord-Loss. He has acted hastily, and brought much suspicion on himself... if I may quote myself..."

Arctik_Firangi wrote:"Other ships?" Arctik asks incredulously; "What in the Warp are you talking about?"

Turning to Lord-Loss; "I have three other minor reasons to suspect you. Unless you are suffering from an attention disorder, you have not bothered to defend yourself properly until I specifically asked you. Secondly, you seem to have trouble describing yourself... you have given us more than one story about your background, neither of which you have really followed up. This may be an internal personality conflict, or you may be suffering brain damage. The other reason involves another on this ship, and I do not wish to bring up this subject at the present time based on the fact that I am only speculating."

"The 'another on this ship' that I mentioned at the time was none other than Joan, and I am now more convinced than ever that these two are in league. Several times yesterday our sister saw cause to rebuke his actions... where she would normally cast suspicion on hints of rash behaviour. I will make yesterday's vox-recordings available to everyone... see for yourselves how often they speak directly to one another. I believe that Lord-Loss is truly the henchman in this situation, which is why I believe that Joan must die first."

Lord-Loss wrote:He votes for me cause I believe the Eldar that there are two traitors. But then votes for LoG cause the Eldar said something......

"Lord-Loss, please quote when we were told that there are two traitors."

Lord-Loss wrote:Idea's are Idea's that why there are ideas.

If I had some evidence it would be a theory, but using an idea as a reason to lynch someone, thats just wrong.

Bullying is bad, your trying to force people to vote too quickly. While just four posts ago you asked people to slow down and think before voting (Even after some explained there votes with logic)

"Lord Loss, please explain how this logic ties in with your voiced intent when the option of a deadly weapon was offered? I put it to you that you were trying to emulate Joan's strategy, yet you are personally incapable of controlling your headstrong attitude."

Lord-Loss wrote:

lord of the ghosts wrote:I say we should kill somebody who wants a bolter, as they know who is a xenos, and will kill anybody.

::Sigh::
Thats silly and a very bad idea.

"Ha! You should certainly think so... and I shall say no more..."


Vote: Manchu

Lord-Loss wrote:Oh, we must have a serial killer onboard.

::Looks around suspicously::

Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:Thor665 had been torn into shreds in what could politely be called as a big mess. Orkeo was next to Thor, claws extended from his big Orgyn hands. He has a nice, clean, almost surgical cut along his neck.

Thor665 was an Imperium Sanctioned Psyker
Orkeosaurus was a Genestealer

To me it sounds like the loyalists have a very lucky assassin. Whoever it is good job that's one less threat to worry about.

There was only one Genestealler attack, meaning that the other traitors are likely to be someone that hasn't been around lately to pm drky who they were going to kill. That probably leaves us with Ultrafool, Owain and possibly Mekboy . I think it's probably one of those three, but that's just based on their general disappearence around the time of the night phase. Owain said he would be away for a bit, Ultrafool just disappeared. If there was only one Genestealler attack and we haven't won it's likely that its either one of them or both of them. I belive that Manchu is actually an Inquisitor, but that's just what I think. We still have no idea if anyone has taken the bolt pistol or even who has if it's gone, we'll have to watch out for that.

Arctik_Firangi wrote:"Thor is fallen - his manner was crude but his tactics are infallible... he had been actively opposed to Joan, however.

Thor's manner was not crude and his tactics were far from infallible. The fact that you are adopting those same tactics is extremely interesting to me, however, and the way that you are labeling them as infallible is the most interesting point of all. Let me explain why before moving on to your other comments.

Here are the facts and my conclusions so far (let everyone see exactly how I am thinking about this):

- Thor suspected me more than anyone else. Even when he voted for another to die, he still made it clear to everyone that I was his primary suspect.

- His logic was extremely shaky and no one else was convinced. No other person voted for me for the reasons that Thor laid out.

- Thor is now dead and it turns out that he was a loyal citizen.

- Since Thor and I disagreed more vocally than any other two people, I would be the most natural suspect to have murdered him.

- But I know that I didn't murder him.

- Therefore I am being framed by the person who really did murder him.

- The person who really did murder him would look for other ways to make the frame look more plausible.

- A great way to do that would be to say that Thor knew all along who was going to kill him--namely me.

- The real murderer had no reason to try and lynch me on day one since I didn't have enough votes against me at any point to be an easy kill.

- The real murder would have been a bandwagon killer, voting not at the very last minute but close enough to prime the kill, waiting for a real innocent to take the fall.

- I thought that Thor was trying to do that to me--which is why I wasn't going to vote LotG unless I had a public deal with Thor so he couldn't blame a bandwagon kill on me later or claim--as Arctik Firangi already has today--that I "did not even see fit to vote constructively."

- Turns out that someone betrayed Thor in the way that I thought he would betray me. That person was Arctik.

- The real murderer would also want to make me look guilty by playing up Thor's accusations of me before his death, reminding everyone that we argued a lot so that it would look like I had the greatest motive to kill him.

- The real murder would therefore claim that Thor's methods were the most reliable.

- Arctik now calls Thor's method's infallible when he didn't find them convincing enough to support yesterday.

- As I've said: Only a traitor would work with the perfidious alien. Only a trader would want a weapon that would deprive us of the chance to think, discuss, and vote carefully--or at last as a safety to kill as many of us as possible before he is caught. Arctik both defends the xenos witch and wants to use the bolter.

I do not care if this looks like vendetta voting. I held back from voting too much yesterday and made a bad decision to focus on Thor when I should have been looking more closely elsewhere. Unfortunate as it is, the loyal citizen Thor is dead. But he can no longer distract me from paying attention to the facts.

Vote: Arctik Firangi

Let him try to run some distraction regarding Lord-Loss and I working together. I challenge him to post the evidence. I've made my decision, until Arctik can refute my conclusions above, but I think you should consider the points I've made very carefully before getting sucked into this sideshow cover-up Arctik is trying to pull.

Wow... That was awesome Manchu

Watch out, n0t_u, Artick will say we are working together.

Well at the moment I'm still staying with the three suspicious people I pointed out. I'll think about it a fair bit more then vote. But, both of you have a good points against the other. Artick's though seems to be going on about Lord-Loss for a fair while before somehow making it turn out that he is just a puppet. We only had one Genestealler attack, does no one find that suspicious in itself. The Genestealler was found dead next to Thor, Drky hasn't said if killing a Genestealler duing the night phase will cancel out it's kill. Therefore I think that Orkeo was actually the one to kill Thor as he would have known that he isn't a traitor and because that he had a solid strategy going on.

I don't belive that either one of you are actually traitors.
Because if one of you were there would have probably been more than one kill. We have to look at the ones that weren't around to pm a kill to Drky before we start pointing at each other.

((OOC: Why do you think that there was only one attack? I thought in past games, bad guys could only kill one per night anyway.))