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In the Emperor I see only hollow missives, written by a weak man that seeks control over all that he does not understand - Inqusitor Valeria

Do you think this is true or should Valeria be executed its up to you ?

Heresy.

Heresy and blasphemy.

Execution is too good for such Radical filth. Consign her to Obliviation, and make her into a servitor. Let those who come after look to her fate as an object lesson to educate yourself with knowledge alongside faith. Educate men without faith, and you make them but clever devils.

Stepping back, I pretty much have to agree with her

No. The emperor was a pretty damn good leader, who unified a splintered human race into a cohesive civilization.

Now if that quote was applied to the high lords of terra, or any given member of the Eccleisarchy...

Give Brother Coa a lasgun, he'd do what is necessary.

After a long think i agree with her

Agree, but that would be heresy, I suppose.

I agree with the servitor idea!

This is heresy!!!

When did she say this?

Seems pretty brash for an Inquisitor?

Iranna.

Heresy! Lies against the God-Emperor! He was and is a great man, father of the Marines, uniter of humanity!

Give the Halo Watch the honor of punishing this heretic, our Interrogator-Chaplains are well practiced

It is false. The Emperor was great. The lord of Terra are not. Where'd I leave that damn chainsword...

Iranna wrote:When did she say this?

Seems pretty brash for an Inquisitor?

Iranna.

she said infront of all the Inquisitors of Cavlock

She has given a spech infront of the Ordo Malleus but Im lazy and will not write its preety long
The Inqusition did not reply or do nothing Im quessing they are with her

Mikster wrote:

she said infront of all the Inquisitors of Cavlock

She has given a spech infront of the Ordo Malleus but Im lazy and will not write its preety long
The Inqusition did not reply or do nothing Im quessing they are with her

Was it in a novel? I can't find any info about it?

Iranna.

Iranna wrote:

Mikster wrote:

she said infront of all the Inquisitors of Cavlock

She has given a spech infront of the Ordo Malleus but Im lazy and will not write its preety long
The Inqusition did not reply or do nothing Im quessing they are with her

Was it in a novel? I can't find any info about it?

Iranna.

There is a small bit of it in the grey knight new codex

It was in an old demon hunters novel that I read once. I can`t remember its name but as soon as I saw that paragraph in the codex It reminded my of the whole story

Mikster wrote:

There is a small bit of it in the grey knight new codex

It was in an old demon hunters novel that I read once. I can`t remember its name but as soon as I saw that paragraph in the codex It reminded my of the whole story

Interesting, I'll have to get my GK codex back off my friend and have a little look-see.

Iranna.

But what I completly dont understand is she said to the Ordo Malleus what she thought and the Inqusition did nothing that speech that I was witeing about is 3 paragraphs long of accusing the emperor of sacrificing human lives to overcome what he saw alien unclean not understandable the last sentence accused the Emperor of madness !

Mikster wrote:But what I completly dont understand is she said to the Ordo Malleus what she thought and the Inqusition did nothing that speech that I was witeing about is 3 paragraphs long of accusing the emperor of sacrificing human lives to overcome what he saw alien unclean not understandable the last sentence accused the Emperor of madness !

It would have been more dangerous for her to say it to the Ecclesiarchy.

The Ordo Malleus was set up to combat daemons, not to enforce the Imperial creed, which may explain why no direct action was taken against her immediately.

Iranna.

Iranna wrote:

Mikster wrote:But what I completly dont understand is she said to the Ordo Malleus what she thought and the Inqusition did nothing that speech that I was witeing about is 3 paragraphs long of accusing the emperor of sacrificing human lives to overcome what he saw alien unclean not understandable the last sentence accused the Emperor of madness !

It would have been more dangerous for her to say it to the Ecclesiarchy.

The Ordo Malleus was set up to combat daemons, not to enforce the Imperial creed, which may explain why no direct action was taken against her immediately.

Iranna.

I guess your right

Heresy! This is the same clown that horse trades with Necrons!

Purge the heretic.

Valeria said that? Isn't she still a member of the Inquisition who gets other Puritans (like Emil Darkhammer) labeled traitors? How da fuc isn't she being hunted by the Ordo Hereticus yet?

Harriticus wrote:Valeria said that? Isn't she still a member of the Inquisition who gets other Puritans (like Emil Darkhammer) labeled traitors? How da fuc isn't she being hunted by the Ordo Hereticus yet?

She is not a heretic and the Inqusition did not report her speech and actions. Im starting to think the Inqusition is becoming more independant

Mikster wrote:

She is not a heretic and the Inqusition did not report her speech and actions. Im starting to think the Inqusition is becoming more independant

Or perhaps simply disillusioned towards the Imperial Creed. After all, the Imperium faces one of its most trying times yet and, as can be seen in our society today, difficult times breed discontent and rebellion. (Albeit coming from an established authority such as the Inquisition seems most unlikely.)

Iranna.

Bah! Unlezz da eperorer iz gunna get inna skrap wiff 'iz beakies, he c'n fethin' well bugger off!

Mikster wrote:

Harriticus wrote:Valeria said that? Isn't she still a member of the Inquisition who gets other Puritans (like Emil Darkhammer) labeled traitors? How da fuc isn't she being hunted by the Ordo Hereticus yet?

She is not a heretic and the Inqusition did not report her speech and actions. Im starting to think the Inqusition is becoming more independant

Or more corrupt. Really it's amazing someone could get away with saying that.

Harriticus wrote:
Or more corrupt. Really it's amazing someone could get away with saying that.

Not if the sentiment was shared...

Iranna.

Heresy.

We all know Emperor was not like that.


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Cyrax wrote:Give Brother Coa a lasgun, he'd do what is necessary.

Enemies of Mankind must be purged. Kill or be killed, that is the rule of Universe.

Also, it isn't the Emperor's choice to live the life he has upon the golden throne, he didn't want to be preserved past the Imperium's need of him and he certainly never wanted to be worshiped as a God!

Squidmanlolz wrote:Also, it isn't the Emperor's choice to live the life he has upon the golden throne, he didn't want to be preserved past the Imperium's need of him and he certainly never wanted to be worshiped as a God!

Very good point but the Emperor was radical.

I see the emperor as a great leader. He unified a race that was shattered and broken across the universe.

Fighting aliens wasn't the only option it was the easiest and quickest option, and it was also a way of unifying the human race. Is it not true that in times of war people will come together to defend in what they believe?

The emperor was not radical, he just made the easier choices based upon ideas such as those I have mentioned, and the fact that he had the space marines. I'm sure if he knew about chaos things would have been different.


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Oh, and to bring all that OT, I disagree with her XD