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2012/01/02 15:07:12
Subject: Is This True
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Tadashi wrote:The Ecclesiarchy aren't happy, but they don't dare antagonize all Chapters by trying to influence Astartes religious views.
The Emperor Protects - the Lectitio Divinitatus, the original source of the Imperial Creed, the spread of which was actively suppressed by the Legions prior to the Heresy. After that, well, there were other, more important, concerns to take care off, and the Chapters made no effort to suppress the growing strength of the Imperial Cult.
Because they have no authority over them, only when they directly breach Imperial Edicts on heretical practices and even then, they are reluctant to get involved.
Again, it was not the Space Marines' job to enforce the Imperial Truth, that fell to the Ecclesiarchy.
Iranna.
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2012/01/02 15:09:16
Subject: Is This True
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The enforcers of the Imperial Truth were the Imperial Iterators, but most if not all were killed by the traitors during the Heresy, so almost no one was left to oppose the rise of the Imperial Cult.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/01/02 15:10:35
Subject: Is This True
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Tadashi wrote:The enforcers of the Imperial Truth were the Imperial Iterators, but most if not all were killed by the traitors during the Heresy, so almost no one was left to oppose the rise of the Imperial Cult.
Which is why it fell to the Ecclesiarchy to straighten it all up.
And look what happened.
Iranna.
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2012/01/02 15:11:14
Subject: Is This True
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And why her opinion matters, when we know the real truth? We have the books, we know what Emperor was alike and how are his servants in 41' st millennium.
I am just saying that a lot of people do a lot of things in Emprah's name and he can't be responsible for all of them.
My math is not wrong, see Russian elections. Their math was perfect. 
And when people here post something from cannon I take them for their word until proven otherwise, Except for things that I know cannot be true or that are in conflict with something I ask for source. I didn't read anything from HH except Lexicanum articles, and I already said that I read that on this forum and posted that. I never said that I read it in the book.
Brother Coa. Automatically Appended Next Post: Iranna wrote:
And look what happened.
Iranna.
Thank the Emperor for Ordo Hereticus and Battle Sisters.
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 For Emperor and Imperium!!!!
None shall stand against the Crusade of the Righteous!!! 
Kanluwen wrote: "I like the Tau. I just don't like people misconstruing things to say that it means that they're somehow a huge galactic threat. They're not. They're a threat to the Imperium of Man like sharks are a threat to the US Army."
 "Pain is temporary, honor is forever"
Emperor of Mankind:
"The day I have a sit-down with a pansy elf, magic mushroom, or commie frog is the day I put a bolt shell in my head."
 in your name it shall be done"
My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/2SSSR2
Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.
The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?
Ronin wrote:
"Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions."
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2012/01/02 15:13:03
Subject: Is This True
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The moment the Emperor returns and confronts the High Lords, the first thing He will say is, "I am disappoint.". And the Sisters are a complete failure to His Majesty's ideals.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/01/02 15:14:14
I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/01/02 15:13:09
Subject: Re:Is This True
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I agree with Iranna everything has been said why are you bringing marines and battles into this. The Imperial creed has always been a little bit of a mystery to me
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2012/01/02 15:14:09
Subject: Re:Is This True
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Tadashi wrote:
The Emperor had a plan, and simply expected His sons to trust in Him, something half of them couldn't do. After all, Sanguinius, who was quite similar to Horus (extremely skilled on war and peace), Fulgrim (very refined aesthetic taste), and Magnus (he was a psyker with precognitive abilities), remained loyal to his father to the end.
Exactly.
The Emperor had a plan. A plan that he never bothered to explain, or even admitted EXISTED. The Emperor had a plan, but he refused to ever tell anyone about the plan, because the plan involved denying that the plan had ever been necessary and killing anyone who said different. The Emperor had a plan, and he expected his sons to trust him, implicitly, without questioning, even when he did inexplicable and flat-out harmful things, and then refused to answer for them.
In short, the Emperor was an idiot.
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2012/01/02 15:14:54
Subject: Is This True
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Brother Coa wrote:And why her opinion matters, when we know the real truth? We have the books, we know what Emperor was alike and how are his servants in 41' st millennium.
I am just saying that a lot of people do a lot of things in Emprah's name and he can't be responsible for all of them.
My math is not wrong, see Russian elections. Their math was perfect.
And when people here post something from cannon I take them for their word until proven otherwise, Except for things that I know cannot be true or that are in conflict with something I ask for source. I didn't read anything from HH except Lexicanum articles, and I already said that I read that on this forum and posted that. I never said that I read it in the book.
Brother Coa.
Because that is what my entire post was about? That if we take it from her view, it makes sense why she sees the Emperor as a weak man. We know she's wrong, but she doesn't.
No he can't.
Of course your math is completely correct. 140% now = 100%. Right.
Well unfortunately, it's not canon until you have direct evidence that it is, so the Edicts of Nikaea were never amended until you show us a quote from a canonical source that they were.
Iranna.
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2012/01/02 15:16:02
Subject: Re:Is This True
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BeRzErKeR wrote:Tadashi wrote:
The Emperor had a plan, and simply expected His sons to trust in Him, something half of them couldn't do. After all, Sanguinius, who was quite similar to Horus (extremely skilled on war and peace), Fulgrim (very refined aesthetic taste), and Magnus (he was a psyker with precognitive abilities), remained loyal to his father to the end.
Exactly.
The Emperor had a plan. A plan that he never bothered to explain, or even admitted EXISTED. The Emperor had a plan, but he refused to ever tell anyone about the plan, because the plan involved denying that the plan had ever been necessary and killing anyone who said different. The Emperor had a plan, and he expected his sons to trust him, implicitly, without questioning, even when he did inexplicable and flat-out harmful things, and then refused to answer for them.
In short, the Emperor was an idiot.
He was not an idiot he was a great leader and scientist but he had a weak mind with a lot of hope and faith
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2012/01/02 15:16:30
Subject: Is This True
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Index Astartes III states that Librarians were present and active during the Siege of Terra, implying that the Edicts were amended. And the Emperor wasn't weak minded. Rather, too optimistic. Apparently, after the Drop Site Massacre, the Emperor brooded over HIS failure regarding the Primarchs. It means that He recognized His own mistakes, something a weak-minded fool could never do. That's even why He ordered Malcador to form the Inquisition.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/01/02 15:17:32
Subject: Is This True
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Tadashi wrote:Index Astartes III states that Librarians were present and active during the Siege of Terra, implying that the Edicts were amended.
Implying, but not stating.
Iranna.
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2012/01/02 15:18:17
Subject: Re:Is This True
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Mikster wrote:I agree with Iranna everything has been said why are you bringing marines and battles into this. The Imperial creed has always been a little bit of a mystery to me
And I agree wit everything Tadashi said.
We have x novels from HH and by the sound of it there is not even one sentence to show us that the Emperor was that bad as you describe it.
And as for Space Marines, I was just making an example for Emperor's sake 
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For Emperor and Imperium!!!!
None shall stand against the Crusade of the Righteous!!!
Kanluwen wrote: "I like the Tau. I just don't like people misconstruing things to say that it means that they're somehow a huge galactic threat. They're not. They're a threat to the Imperium of Man like sharks are a threat to the US Army."
"Pain is temporary, honor is forever"
Emperor of Mankind:
"The day I have a sit-down with a pansy elf, magic mushroom, or commie frog is the day I put a bolt shell in my head."
in your name it shall be done"
My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/2SSSR2
Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.
The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?
Ronin wrote:
"Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions."
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2012/01/02 15:21:10
Subject: Re:Is This True
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Brother Coa wrote:
And I agree wit everything Tadashi said.
We have x novels from HH and by the sound of it there is not even one sentence to show us that the Emperor was that bad as you describe it.
And as for Space Marines, I was just making an example for Emperor's sake
Then be my guest and quote away until you have destroyed any evidence that he was not.
In future, try to ensure that your examples are relevant to the subject at hand.
Iranna.
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2012/01/02 15:21:53
Subject: Is This True
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But we do know that Librarians were active at the Siege of Terra. So why would that be if the Edicts were enforcing their original tenets forbidding not just sorcery, but psychic power?
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/01/02 15:22:50
Subject: Is This True
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Tadashi wrote:But we do know that Librarians were active at the Siege of Terra.
That we do, but for all we know, they were in direct defiance of the Edicts of Nikaea.
Unless you have evidence to prove otherwise.
Iranna.
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2012/01/02 15:22:52
Subject: Re:Is This True
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Brother Coa wrote:Mikster wrote:I agree with Iranna everything has been said why are you bringing marines and battles into this. The Imperial creed has always been a little bit of a mystery to me
And I agree wit everything Tadashi said.
We have x novels from HH and by the sound of it there is not even one sentence to show us that the Emperor was that bad as you describe it.
And as for Space Marines, I was just making an example for Emperor's sake
All written by patriots and blind followers of a man with charisma
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2012/01/02 15:23:15
Subject: Is This True
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Iranna wrote:
Because that is what my entire post was about? That if we take it from her view, it makes sense why she sees the Emperor as a weak man. We know she's wrong, but she doesn't.
She will see it one day when she die and join soul with him.
Of course your math is completely correct. 140% now = 100%. Right.
That was a joke
Well unfortunately, it's not canon until you have direct evidence that it is, so the Edicts of Nikaea were never amended until you show us a quote from a canonical source that they were.
Iranna.
The conclusion of that thread was it is because Librarians still serve the Marine Chapters and santioned psykers seving the Imeprial Guard, even all Inquisitors are psykers. Unless Emperor say something in the last moment, but I doubt that because we have nothing about him mentioning that after he was put on the throne. So that means that someone again made them legal, purplefood said it was Malcador and I believe him.
Brother Coa.
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For Emperor and Imperium!!!!
None shall stand against the Crusade of the Righteous!!!
Kanluwen wrote: "I like the Tau. I just don't like people misconstruing things to say that it means that they're somehow a huge galactic threat. They're not. They're a threat to the Imperium of Man like sharks are a threat to the US Army."
"Pain is temporary, honor is forever"
Emperor of Mankind:
"The day I have a sit-down with a pansy elf, magic mushroom, or commie frog is the day I put a bolt shell in my head."
in your name it shall be done"
My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/2SSSR2
Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.
The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?
Ronin wrote:
"Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions."
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2012/01/02 15:24:57
Subject: Re:Is This True
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Brother Coa wrote:Mikster wrote:I agree with Iranna everything has been said why are you bringing marines and battles into this. The Imperial creed has always been a little bit of a mystery to me
And I agree wit everything Tadashi said.
We have x novels from HH and by the sound of it there is not even one sentence to show us that the Emperor was that bad as you describe it.
And as for Space Marines, I was just making an example for Emperor's sake
All written by patriots and blind followers of a man with charisma
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2012/01/02 15:25:41
Subject: Is This True
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Brother Coa wrote:Iranna wrote:
Because that is what my entire post was about? That if we take it from her view, it makes sense why she sees the Emperor as a weak man. We know she's wrong, but she doesn't.
She will see it one day when she die and join soul with him.
Of course your math is completely correct. 140% now = 100%. Right.
That was a joke
Well unfortunately, it's not canon until you have direct evidence that it is, so the Edicts of Nikaea were never amended until you show us a quote from a canonical source that they were.
Iranna.
The conclusion of that thread was it is because Librarians still serve the Marine Chapters and santioned psykers seving the Imeprial Guard, even all Inquisitors are psykers. Unless Emperor say something in the last moment, but I doubt that because we have nothing about him mentioning that after he was put on the throne. So that means that someone again made them legal, purplefood said it was Malcador and I believe him.
Brother Coa.
Most likely she will.
I know, I was being facetious.
That may be so, however, you still haven't provided a piece of evidence to show that the Edict was overturned. Therefore, we must assume it was ignored because there is no evidence to say otherwise at this moment.
Iranna.
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2012/01/02 15:26:11
Subject: Re:Is This True
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Mikster wrote:
All written by patriots and blind followers of a man with charisma
So Dan Abnett, Ben Counter, Graham McNeill, James Swallow adn others are blind followers and patriots 
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For Emperor and Imperium!!!!
None shall stand against the Crusade of the Righteous!!!
Kanluwen wrote: "I like the Tau. I just don't like people misconstruing things to say that it means that they're somehow a huge galactic threat. They're not. They're a threat to the Imperium of Man like sharks are a threat to the US Army."
"Pain is temporary, honor is forever"
Emperor of Mankind:
"The day I have a sit-down with a pansy elf, magic mushroom, or commie frog is the day I put a bolt shell in my head."
in your name it shall be done"
My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/2SSSR2
Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.
The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?
Ronin wrote:
"Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions."
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2012/01/02 15:26:57
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Brother Coa wrote:
So Dan Abnett, Ben Counter, Graham McNeill, James Swallow adn others are blind followers and patriots
They do work with GW right? 
Iranna.
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2012/01/02 15:29:47
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Iranna wrote:
Most likely she will.
Witch makes her statement wrong .
I know, I was being facetious.
Thank you, now I know what facetious means.
That may be so, however, you still haven't provided a piece of evidence to show that the Edict was overturned. Therefore, we must assume it was ignored because there is no evidence to say otherwise at this moment.
Iranna.
Sorry but I can't when i didn't read this. All I know that they banned any kind of Psykers in the Imperium and that they were returned later. I would believe you if there wasn't for Land Raider command, how nobody forgotten that and they forgotten even bigger issue? But I will stop here because this is not forum for that, and agree that you are right.
Brother Coa. Automatically Appended Next Post: Iranna wrote:
They do work with GW right?
Iranna.
I said it - GW believe in God Emepror
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For Emperor and Imperium!!!!
None shall stand against the Crusade of the Righteous!!!
Kanluwen wrote: "I like the Tau. I just don't like people misconstruing things to say that it means that they're somehow a huge galactic threat. They're not. They're a threat to the Imperium of Man like sharks are a threat to the US Army."
"Pain is temporary, honor is forever"
Emperor of Mankind:
"The day I have a sit-down with a pansy elf, magic mushroom, or commie frog is the day I put a bolt shell in my head."
in your name it shall be done"
My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/2SSSR2
Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.
The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?
Ronin wrote:
"Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions."
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2012/01/02 15:33:09
Subject: Is This True
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All we know is that the Edicts were probably amended, but when and whom (the Emperor, Malcador, Guilliman) has yet to be revealed. I'm betting on the first two, since the Grey Knights were founded during the Heresy, and they're all psykers.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/01/02 15:33:20
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GW Promotes SM and Ultramarines and make them seem superior I see kids all the time going to GW stores and seeing all the smurfs on the intro table and on the intro painting station.
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2012/01/02 15:37:14
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Tadashi wrote:All we know is that the Edicts were probably amended, but when and whom (the Emperor, Malcador, Guilliman) has yet to be revealed. I'm betting on the first two, since the Grey Knights were founded during the Heresy, and they're all psykers.
No, we don't know that at all. All we know is that psykers were banned and now the Imperium use them. We could assume that the Edicts were amended but as we have no evidence to support that, we have to presume that the Edicts are simply being ignored.
The Grey Knights were created to battle Chaos and answer only to the Emperor, no edict or law can stop them.
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2012/01/02 15:38:46
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Because everybody likes power armored knights?
I love them to, but I like IG and Sisterhood more 
Here people play with many different army's not just Ultramarines. Here is the list from December's mini tournament:
1. pavlicad- Space Wolves
2. Histericni- Salamanders
3. Shukaku- Blood Angels
4. joggy- Tau Empire
5. Pnekula- Orks
6. deka- Ultramarines
7. RatGod- Dark Angels
8. Zerg- Tyranids
9. Dete Eldar- Eldar
10. Dete Ork- Orks
11. Dete Chaos- Chaos Space Marines
12. Dete Necron- Necrons
13. No1- Space Marines
14. No2- Blood Angles
15. Rista - Marines? Eldar?
16. Ota- Orks
17. Ridji- Imperial Guard
18. Stravicni- Space Wolves
19. Staljin- Imperial Guard
20. Luka- Space Wolves
21. Ogi- Gray Knights
22. Perovic- Chaos Space Marines
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For Emperor and Imperium!!!!
None shall stand against the Crusade of the Righteous!!!
Kanluwen wrote: "I like the Tau. I just don't like people misconstruing things to say that it means that they're somehow a huge galactic threat. They're not. They're a threat to the Imperium of Man like sharks are a threat to the US Army."
"Pain is temporary, honor is forever"
Emperor of Mankind:
"The day I have a sit-down with a pansy elf, magic mushroom, or commie frog is the day I put a bolt shell in my head."
in your name it shall be done"
My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/2SSSR2
Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.
The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?
Ronin wrote:
"Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions."
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2012/01/02 15:39:55
Subject: Is This True
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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I don't want to offend anyone, but Space Marines, whether loyalist or otherwise, have always been the central icon of the 40k franchise.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/01/02 15:42:04
Subject: Is This True
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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That is true, but they would be become boring without their enemies, or their allies.
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For Emperor and Imperium!!!!
None shall stand against the Crusade of the Righteous!!!
Kanluwen wrote: "I like the Tau. I just don't like people misconstruing things to say that it means that they're somehow a huge galactic threat. They're not. They're a threat to the Imperium of Man like sharks are a threat to the US Army."
"Pain is temporary, honor is forever"
Emperor of Mankind:
"The day I have a sit-down with a pansy elf, magic mushroom, or commie frog is the day I put a bolt shell in my head."
in your name it shall be done"
My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/2SSSR2
Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.
The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?
Ronin wrote:
"Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions."
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2012/01/02 15:42:27
Subject: Is This True
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Agile Revenant Titan
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Tadashi wrote:I don't want to offend anyone, but Space Marines, whether loyalist or otherwise, have always been the central icon of the 40k franchise.
Merchandise wise yes, but fluff-wise? Absolutely not.
It is in fact the Imperial Guard who win most of humanity's engagements and wars. Space Marines seem present in every battle because GW write about the massive battles that if lost, bad bad things would happen. So naturally, Space Marines will be present to assist and stop said bad bad things from happening.
Iranna.
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2012/01/02 15:43:17
Subject: Is This True
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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Iranna wrote:Tadashi wrote:All we know is that the Edicts were probably amended, but when and whom (the Emperor, Malcador, Guilliman) has yet to be revealed. I'm betting on the first two, since the Grey Knights were founded during the Heresy, and they're all psykers.
No, we don't know that at all. All we know is that psykers were banned and now the Imperium use them. We could assume that the Edicts were amended but as we have no evidence to support that, we have to presume that the Edicts are simply being ignored.
The Grey Knights were created to battle Chaos and answer only to the Emperor, no edict or law can stop them.
Iranna.
By the same logic, since Space Marines (Codex: SM states that Chapter Masters answer directly to the Emperor) and the Inquisition answer only to the Emperor and themselves, then the Edicts and Imperial Law have no hold on them either.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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